Hello ! This is actually my first post here on 7Sage though I have consistently browsed through the discussion boards. I am curious if anybody could give some general advice on my current struggles on LR. My original diagnostic test, never before seeing an LSAT in any form, was a 140. After the CC and taking roughly 3-4 PT's my scores are in the low 150's with the most obvious struggles coming in LR. I constantly go -8 to -12 in each LR section, though, what really perplexes me is that I seemingly only miss two or three questions at most throughout the first 15 or so questions in each LR section. I go on to miss as many as seven or eight of the remaining LR questions, sometimes as much as 5-6 in a row for the more challenging questions. I was just curious if anyone has experienced this before or if this is simply part of the beginning of doing the PT's.

I really appreciate any advice ! Thank You.

Hey all

hope all is well. I heard sages like @"Jonathan Wang" advocate for watching all the JY LR video explanations for each question after doing an LR section. I think the logic is that you can always learn more from each question (sometimes you may have even gotten a question right for the wrong reason), and it also helps to reinforce the reasoning that you initially thought you knew.

For me, I've mostly watched JY's video explanations for questions I got wrong and question I wasn't sure about (like 60% confidence) but still got right. Quick question: should I watch JY's video explanations for questions I was pretty also sure about ? In other words, should I try watching all 26 LR video explanations for each LR section?

For some background: for each LR section, I am averaging a -5 timed and -2 after blind review.

Thanks!

Hi everyone! I took the Feb test and was disappointed in my score relative to where I was PTing/averaging, but had a good overall test day experience so I am optimistic about June from that perspective.

That being said, seeing the "T minus 4 weeks" note in my calendar for this upcoming test upped my stress level a bit and now I feel like my test anxiety/nerves are impeding the quality of my studying. I'm putting so much more pressure on each section and feel like I spend more time worrying about the aggregate score of a test/section and less time on the actual concept in a given question.

I can only remind myself to breathe and slow down so many times (read: 100 a day) so I was wondering if anyone else feels/has felt this way and had any tips/tricks? They can be actual study related or life/headspace clearing related.

Tangential question: for those of y'all who have previously taken an AM test, what did you change to feel comfortable with a PM test? I'm a morning person (wake up at 5am) so the AM tests are preferable but unfortunately the world doesn't revolve around my preferences so, alas, I will be surrendering to the fate of the 12:30pm test this June.

Thanks in advance!

I just saw on Spivey twitter feed that the ABA is formally dropping requirement for standardized tests for admissions. They say more this cycle will accept GRE and GMAT with likely explosion next cycle (entering 2019.) Based on this, I think I might go with GRE. Easier test I have been told.

I have implemented perspective shift as I prepare for my test. I used to be extremely concerned with point improvements, finishing on time, test day performance, etc. But I think that these thoughts take up a lot of real estate in my head, inadvertently causing anxiety and interfering with my abilities.

Since the beginning of May, consequently, I have tried to implemented a perspective shift and now only focus on two things: a) doing my best each on each section and b) learning from my mistakes. I don't really care about what score I ultimately get: maybe it'll be below, at, or above my average. I'm not going to go too fast or too slow to be perfect, I'll just react the way I normally react.

This has made preparation much more enjoyable for me. I now simply focus on learning about my intellectual/personal weaknesses and getting better at them. Each wrong question is no longer a blow to my ego, but a chance to learn about myself.

Hopefully this wasn't too preachy and helps others as they take "Preptest 84" or the "Superprep III July 2018 Undisclosed Test."

So I am just finishing up the LR section right now and looking forward to moving on to LG. I have the LG Study Bible by Powerscore, and some people have suggested that I read/work through that, then come back to 7sage to brush up on weak areas and watch the game review videos. Should I try this method, or should I stick to watching all the 7sage core course videos? How have you guys done it?

Sorry if this is a silly question. i see the star "⭐" next to ppl's name. What does that mean? Have always been curious. Thanks.

How much did you improve on the first test after finishing the core curriculum, and how much did you improve after doing several more full tests? It seems like the bulk of improvement actually comes from blind reviewing full PTs and not from just completing the core curriculum.. Thoughts?

In my LSAT analytics I’m able to see the difficulty (on a scale of one to five) of individual sections that I’ve taken as PTs and graded. Is there any way to see that information for individual sections that I have taken as PTs or graded?

Just curious.

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I know this is just a snapshot but you all have been so helpful in the past. I started studying in March after a 156 diagnostic. After the CC my PT scores have been: 160, 162, 166, 164, 164, 165. LR is always my worst section with around 10-12 incorrect, spread across question type. RC is best, and LG varies but usually -3 to -5.

Can I hit 168 or even 170 for June 11 (1 month from now)? I work full time and usually do 1 timed section/night, focusing on LR and one PT on the weekend.

Any tips or feedback? Thaank you!

I've been fool-proofing the earliest 30-40 games and have obviously come across several that are highly unusual and unrepresentative of games in general. Do you find it useful to fool-proof these games or do you try them watch explanation and just move on (this is what i've been doing)?

can someone provide an answer explanation?

really confused between answer choice A and answer choice C.

how i view it - stimulus has 2 things it's comparing: skill/knowledge and persuasion. persuasion is emphasized/prioritized, so someone with less skill but more persuasion is preferred.

It's very hard for me to see this fit AC A (the correct AC).

I guess i can say that 2 things compared: highly skilled at conducting an election campaign and have insight into important political issues. What's preferred is the latter, so successful politicians are "not always ones who understand how to help country?"

not sure if this makes sense. help would be appreciated - thanks!!

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Hey all! Currently my blind review scores have been much higher than my actual scores, but I'm not really sure how to improve them to fully reach my potential. For example, on my last PT I got 169, but my blind review was 176. Is it just an issue of improving on timing? If so, how can I do this? Thanks!

I am a member of Phi Alpha Delta Pre-Law Fraternity and 7sage says that all members get a one month discount. How is this applied to my account?

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Hi there,

SO I took the LSAT last June, did alright, actually have been accepted to schools and have accepted an offer to a school. My school is now paying for me to take the LSAT again so I am able to have the best possible score I am able to achieve. Better for their numbers, and they have incentivized it for me as well, pending my score increases by even just one point.

I took an LSAT prep class last spring in preparation for my first go at the LSAT (of course at the time, did not think I would ever in my right mind volunteer to take it again). Ultimately, I'm trying to find the best suggested way for a refresher course, without trying to spend 90 hours a week entirely completing this course. I just am at a loss for what I should be prioritizing my time with as I have basically exactly one month from today to prepare.

I had originally thought I would just sift through the different lessons and attempt to complete all of the ones that stuck out to me as relevant or that I thought would be more beneficial than others (which for the record, I'm sure that this course is ALL very helpful, and I don't mean to say any one lesson is more important than the next. I also understand for the best results, it's probably best to have sufficient time to finish the entire course... I'm just not working with that situation).

Does anyone have suggestions for where to start in order to refresh myself and be best prepared for a second shot at the LSAT? How should I prioritize my time to get the best bang for my buck, so to speak? Any information or advice would be so welcome as I feel like I'm drowning in lots and lots of LSAT material with no direction. Thank you all so much in advance!

P.S. I so wish I knew about this course a couple years ago when I was first studying for the LSAT... this site is crazy cool.

The registrations for future LSAT dates are now open :) We also learned that test dates abroad (Australia and New Zealand; Europe, Middle East, and Africa; Asia) are very different for 2018/2019 :(

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Has anyone done the core curriculum with 7sage among side a study schedule through LSAT trainer?

Or is it counterproductive?

Been using the powerscore bibles and it feels to stiff to me and I’m not retaining a lot. However 7sage is working better with LR.

If anyone has done both 7sage and LSAT trainer any advice would be much appreciated.

Hi. This question refers to BR-ing the cold diagnostic.

Joined 7Sage this week and used the June 2007 Prep Test as the diagnostic. I've done just a few lessons from the Core Curriculum so was wondering how do I correctly reason my way through the questions during BR?

Without having learned an approach for the various question types and not having been exposed to 7Sage's methodologies for analyzing correct and incorrect answers, wouldn't BR-ing a diagnostic before the learning process begins, be kind of like "shooting in the dark"?

Suggestions welcome! Thanks in advance

Can anyone recommend a testing center here in Miami, Florida where I can go and take practice LSAT test? I want to take the practice test in a different setting other than my home dinning room table.

I am very reluctantly considering paying for a admissions consulting company's help. I think $3000+ is insane. However, if I could get $3000 more in scholarships and/or get into a more desirable school I think it is worth it. Any thoughts? Have any of you paid for a service? And if so, what are your thoughts?

I am struggling with the idea of taking out student loans. I'm fortunate to have none for undergrad, but I'm so concerned that taking out loans of $110,000 will ruin my life and financial future.....SOS. At this point I feel like I shouldn't even go to school unless it's free :(

Any advice to get more comfortable with taking this debt on?

I feel like I've probably done a majority of LGs 1-35 almost 10x each. A handful of times back in summer 2016 and then in January 2018 I (Pacifico) FP'd 1-25. Didnt touch another logic game until April. I stupidly thought that that invested time in January would hold over while I studied the LR section of the CC. I was either very wrong and totally lost my competency in LG, or I was lulled into a false sense of confidence from having done those same games so many times.

For the past couple weeks I've been drilling one LR and one RC and then one LG section (from a random PT that I haven't seen before) in a row so I get used to having to do LG in the middle of a PT. I sporadically do really well on LG and I sporadically totally bomb like -10. I've started FP'ing LG 1-35 in reverse order and I'm doing really well...so I'm trying to figure out what exactly my problem is here and how to fix it

I'm not sure if there is a point in FPing games I havent encountered as often like 35-60, since it seems like that range doesnt have the weird LGs that PT1-35 and the most recent PTs have. I was thinking about FP'ing outside of the 1-35 range, and adding in a random 4-5star game from 1-35, so I get a lot of practice on the weird games, while also getting used to doing games that I havent seen before..

Will FPing LG1-35 be sufficient for taking on new games that I've never seen before in the middle of a PT or is there something different/additional I could/should be doing?

I saw this recent post where folks were posting photos of their study spots.

It makes me happy to see that studying, or at least the concept of it as embodied in the "study station," can make people happy - even if only in that fleeting sense of happiness you feel before embarking on a difficult yet rewarding studying session. I must say as badly as I want to get into a great law school, I have a hard time looking at my studying positively, even though I know it is helping me and I know it is like medicine for low scores (sometimes we hate to take medicine, but it helps us, and that knowledge makes it easier to take). Which, in my opinion, brings to mind a deeper question. Should we be happy while studying? Or should we accept that happiness in studying is simply a luxury we cannot all have?

If so - if at least a fleeting bit of happiness once in a while is a necessary pre-requisite for one's studying being "healthy" and "good," etc, - does my inability to find happiness in my studying, despite being someone who likes intellectual challenges, despite wanting very badly to go to law school, indicate that maybe I am not meant to be doing what I am doing?

Does anyone ever have these thoughts?

Hi,

how are you guys preparing for the writing portion?