Hey all,

I just did LG Game #2 from PT 09, and in the game there are 2 biconditional rules and 2 conditional rules.

J (-) /K

N (-) /P

N -> L

Q -> K

JY does not combine the biconditional rules with the conditional rules, and instead just splits the GB based on the biconditionals.

Should we never combine biconditional rules with other rules?

Would appreciate any feedback/advice. Thanks so much! :)

Hi all, if I am hoping to convince school A to give me aid by letting them know how much I got from school B, should I wait until school A’s financial aid app forms are available and fill them out, see what happens, then tell them about school B’s offer? Or should I tell School A now since their $ is limited?

I just saw on Twitter that my test center will be closed due to inclement weather.

Usually what will happen next? Will LSAC give us another test date like in the next week or so?

Thanks guys.

Can your LSAT ticket picture be in black and white. Even though it’s still clear

I am trying to do the main point and main conclusion questions problem set number 1. However, when I click on any of the problems set (1-3) nothing happens. Also, I am unable to adjust the speed on the videos. Is this problem happening to anyone else? Or could it just be my computer glitching?

I do not consider myself to be a genius, but I don’t think I’m dumb either. I started prepping for the LSAT back in September. Since then, I had a house fire (Dec 22, 2017) and lost everything. Along with that, I lost previous study time. I’ve been doing the best I can with the hand delt, but I have been scoring around 150-153 on the prep tests. I am walking in to test day expecting a 150. I feel like everyone’s posts I read all say they are getting 160-170 or above. Is anyone else scoring in the 150’s ? Should I feel ashamed for scoring there? Are you all freaky intelligent? I’ve always done well on tests and in school, but this test has me feeling like a big fat dummy! PS I am not trying to get accepted into a top school. I will likely go to a private school. P

Good Morning - The school I am hoping to attend has encouraged me to move forward with the LSAT tomorrow. I believe a 150-153 in addition to a high GPA would make me a strong candidate. However, I would like to know if there is a way to see the type of scholarships they offer based on a combination of GPA, LSAT score. While I am confident I can score a 150+ and I have a 3.8+ GPA I would really like to maximize the scholarship funds available. If this means me retesting in June to get a higher score on my LSAT then I would rather do that. However, if the difference in a 153 and a 160 is only minimal from a scholarship perspective then I believe it would make sense to not delay my application. Would really appreciate your thoughts on this.

I'm taking the LSAT on Saturday. My practice tests have been about 158 so I will be content to be within a point or 2 of that given how anxiety provoking this whole test has been. My UGPA is a 3.94, and I will have completed my masters in forensic psych by May. I know that my score falls well below the 25th percentile for Georgetown and a lot of top schools, but is it still worth applying? Or is it a waste of money? Thanks!

It's difficult juggling work and study. What's bothering me now is that I'm always comparing people's highlight reel to my "behind the scenes". Never fails to make me jealous but I've slowly learnt how to ignore them. I manage it by staying off social media and ruthless prioritization. How about you guys? What's bothering you right now? Vent it here!

I have a full-time job and work an hour away from home. By the time I come home, make dinner and get ready to study its about 8pm. I try to stay as consistent as I can with my study habits but lately its been so rough on me. I find myself dozing off after two hours of studying and some days im not able to get thru the first section.

I am beginning to get frustrated and not sure what else to do. I study on weekends on and off throughout the entire weekend for hours at a time, take breaks as needed in between and I am able to knock out questions but I feel during the week my schedule is keeping me from focusing.

Any suggestions?

Hey everyone!

Long time lurker :)

I know everyone's strategy is different for RC, but I was wondering if we're supposed to (or if high scorers actually do) - write low resolution summaries after each paragraph when they're doing RC on the real test or even PT's?

I see JY actually writing like a word or two next to each paragraph in the more recent RC videos, and was wondering if we should also do the same -- like literally write a word or two per paragraph -- for the real test. or if we should just mentally visualize the low resolution summary.

Thanks!

So I've been following advice to go over questions just to refresh my brain before the LSAT. LG has always been my strongest section, with usually going between -3 and -5 timed. It was the section I originally needed the most work on/struggled with the most. I spent almost 2 months training LG and significantly improved. However, within the last four days, I have been absolutely bombing it.

Bombing as in, I cannot even get 2 games completed in under 35 minutes, and if I do, I get an entire game wrong. I can't answer more than one question with confidence. My brain goes completely blank and I feel like I've lost all the skills I spent months working on. Every other section is fine/the same as before.

I know that some people drop a few points in their PT the week before the exam but I'm doing fine in LR and RC. But it's like, as soon as I see an LG question, especially one with a MBF/MBT/CBT/CBF (i.e. with no additional premise), I completely freeze up and can't answer the question. I've forgotten how to approach it. I've also seemingly lost all ability to make inferences. I have no idea what's going on. I feel like how I did 3 months ago when I first started LG and didn't know what I was doing.

I'm seriously worried I'm just going to bomb the LG section on Saturday and I just don't know what to do anymore -____- has anyone had experience with this, and what did you do?

Hey everyone,

For those of you applying to Yale, how did you approach the 250 word essay? What was your thought process when devising a topic?

Also does anyone wanna read mine and give thoughts :smile:?

Best,

Paul

I made a thread a day ago (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/15041/feb-10-lsat-anxiety) and I did say that I will be doing another PrepTest to see if I will push through with the exam on Saturday. I have done only 4 PrepTests due to the time constraint.

I scored 152 on the first one (forgot to do a blind review).

On my next PrepTest, I scored a 148 and 161 (br) on PrepTest 37, then 160 and 164 (br) on PrepTest 36.

Yesterday I did PrepTest 44, I got a score of 157, 165 (br).

Planning on taking another one today and finalize my decision.

I really would want to get admitted to McGeorge, and I am aiming to get 160 and above if what is posted on Magoosh is accurate:

How does your score compare?

The law school’s LSAT numbers aren’t very competitive, so it’s relatively easier to get into McGeorge than at many other schools in the country. To maximize your chances of admission, focus on your GPA (in addition to your LSAT). McGeorge’s median GPA is 3.15. Its 25th percentile GPA is 2.92, and its 75th percentile GPA is 3.42.

160+: Because high LSAT scores are less common in the McGeorge applicant pool, you can really stand out if you bring a score in the 160+ range. If you have a quality personal statement and strong academic record to match your LSAT score, you’ll be a competitive candidate for full-tuition scholarships.

159-156: An LSAT score in this range will be above McGeorge’s 75th percentile, so it’ll make a strong case for your admission. You should also be in the running for some partial or even full-tuition scholarships to offset school costs.

155-153: With a score in this range, you’ll be sitting right around McGeorge’s 75th percentile – a good place to be. Pair your LSAT with a solid GPA, and you’ll have a great shot at admission.

152-150: A score in the low 150s will be near McGeorge’s 50th percentile. You’ll have more competition from other candidates in this range, but your LSAT score should still help you clear the admissions hurdle.

149-148: You’ll still fall at or above McGeorge’s 25th percentile with a score in the high 140s. While your chances for admission are much lower in this range, you shouldn’t count yourself out– particularly so if you have a high GPA.

147 and below: Since your score is now below the law school’s 25th percentile, you’ll really be facing an uphill battle for admission. Consider retaking the LSAT to give you a more realistic shot of earning an acceptance. To help you ace your retake, check out some of our best LSAT tips here.

Hi everyone!

DISCLAIMER: LONG POST!!!

I keep having anxiety attacks due to the test on February 10. I took the June LSAT last year and did not score well. I did not know how to study for the LSAT and had no idea about 7sage back then. I tried postponing my exam but was too late, I could not change the test date anymore and my ticket and hotel were not refundable. I had to take my exam in another country since it was not offered back home. My flight was a red eye flight and got delayed two more hours, I did not get enough sleep and my nose kept bleeding all throughout the exam. I scored around 140s. I did not cancel my score (my mistake) to see how I fared. A lot of the test takers I met told me about 7sage and I started using it last July. I had only 2 hours a day to study (sometimes none at all due to the tax season, and yes I worked for an accounting firm).

Fast forward I had time to study 5-6 hours a day starting September but I was diagnosed of Cancer last November, I was going through medical tests and treatments and was able to start studying again on the 2nd week of December. So far I have done only 3 PrepTests. I scored 152 on the first one (forgot to do a blind review) then scored a 148 and 161 (br) on preptest 37, then 160 and 164 (br) on preptest 36. I am aiming to get 160 and above.

So with everything said, any advice especially the exam is a few days away?

:(

I still have a long way to go with my LSAT studies and we all know how frustrating this test can be at times. For this reason, I think its all the more important to celebrate the small victories, especially when you usually don't have good news to share when it comes to this test. So with my modified study routine, atm I usually do one untimed RC passage a day before working LR or LG. In addition to the CC, prior to today I have done 18 untimed passages and I usually got -2 or -3 with the occasional -1. But my low resolution summaries became simply about dumbing down individual sentences so I could process it and I often forget to pay attention to the structure. I neglected the fact that every paragraph is important. @"Alex Divine" reminded me of this fact just a few days ago in a recent post I made and today I got my first -0 on an untimed RC passage. What makes it extra meaningful for me is the fact it was a science passage. I hate science passages. I usually never really understand what the heck they're babbling about, but I did today on my 19th attempt. So Alex, I thank you sir. Better LSAT score here I come!!

Applying to Canadian Universities

Queens, Western, UofT, Osgoode

Applied in Access/ Diversity Category (Legitimate claim that effect my Undergraduate GPA).

I am scheduled to write the LSAT this February 10th. This will be my second write as the first time I scored 148 (Terrible I know). I have not been scoring where I want to be in the last few weeks, ranging between 154 and 157.

Overall CPGA of 3.2

Year 1: 3.44 Year 2: 3.18 Year 3: 3.00 Year 4: 3.41

Should I delay my LSAT and apply next cycle? Or should I risk getting another low mark?

This was probably answered in another thread that I can't find but I looked yesterday on LSAC and it was not there. Does anyone have an idea when LSAC will adjust the registration lineup?

Hi everyone,

To all those preparing to take the LSAT in a couple days, GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!! I'm hoping this test doesn't cause too many anxiety attacks and brings relief. I'm taking it and although I'm super nervous - I'm planning to go in calm and to just do the best I can. Reading a lot of the discussions on here have calmed my nerves. So thank you all for that.

I had some questions if anyone can help clarify that would be great:

Thank you so much 7Sage community!!!

I'm scheduled for Saturday's test at MSU and starting to get nervous they will cancel it due to upcoming weather! Supposed to get 8 inches of snow tomorrow then 2 Saturday. Schools are already closing here. Will they schedule a new test date in the very near future? Totally relaxed and in a good state of mind for the test and so ready for it, but uneasy over the weather : (

Only three days away!!! I feel I'm not fully prepared.

A little about my current situation: I am a junior from a top 15 college. This is my first time of taking LSAT. I have been studied LSAT for the past three months: finished all core courses; finished a least 50 timed sections of LR, 20 sections of LG, and 20 sections of RC. However, I just did one 5-section prep test and scored 165 due to schoolwork and my part-time internship.

In general, I got 3-5 wrong on RC, 3-6 wrong per section on LR, and 2-3 wrong on LG. I am aiming for 175 eventually.

Should I postpone the exam to June? I am tempted to do, especially with the added July test. Or should I take it and possibly cancel it after taking it.

June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 52 | Tuesday, Feb 13th | 7:30 pm EST

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I hope you're ready or gearing up to start PTing for the June 2018 LSAT. Join us this Tuesday if you are finished with the CC.

Provisional Schedule: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=f3n8s2l60gkgm2ju8m8kk4vhn4@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York

Note:

For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

Mark any questions you wish to go over on the spreadsheet below!

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June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 52

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You know people always say, “Don’t do anything LSAT related on the day before the test. Relax! Watch a movie or something!”

But what do you watch? You don’t want to watch The Silence of the Lambs, right? Should I watch like @"Daniel.Sieradzki" does? Or Legally Blonde?

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(But Legally Blonde makes me feel like, “She gets a 179 after studying for like weeks? F*#k”)

So let me know if there are any inspiring movies that you recommend watching on the day (or two days) before the LSAT!

Does anyone use library wifi to get this site on a smartphone and spend your study time in a library? What foods and/or drinks do you bring along? Do you feel like you get more done away from home or are you able to stay focused at home?

Hey All,

I have a M.S. I'm Chem. I've discovered new, exciting nanoparticle materials and written and published a thesis (pretty much a book- but not pursuing this in any way right now). I have 5+ years teaching at a nice university.

My undergrad GPA is only 2.8- which is higher than the Chem undergrad average. My grad GPA (which doesn't seem to be too relevant here is 3.7).

I registered for the Feb 10th LSAT and have spent 10 days studying. I've taken 3 practice tests under simulated testing conditions and gotten 159, 159, 160. I miss about half + of the logic games questions currently. Do I need to hold off and not take the test this Saturday or is it okay to go ahead with the test with these practice test scores? Additionally, I'm over 30 and I do want a J.D. and to practice. Your insights are appreciated.