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Submitting a LOCI before a waitlist - has anyone ever done this/is this at all advisable? I feel like as I'm still waiting to hear from schools this late in the cycle, it might be good to reiterate my interest in some of the schools for those weighing me hard...

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Apart from the schools that specify you have to be a URM. I know that some schools leave the prompt for a diversity statement open.

I wanted to get the concensus of what you guys think about this justifying a diversity statement.

I grew up ( and currently reside) in a home that doubles as a synagogue. For the past 14 yrs my father has been the preacher in a synogogue that is the back half of my house. I have cleaned it every week and do the general maintenance on it (painting,lights, yada yada) for the past 14 yrs ( i am only 22 so i can definitely say it has been a huge part of the majority of my life). P.s. i do this all for free. I dont get paid at all for any of this. I do it as a community service

Waking up in the morning to find congregation members traipsing through my house to use my bathroom is part of my M.O. lol

The reason i am considering writing a statement for this is that i beleive it has really affected who i am today as a person and that it has had an affect on my future career goals,( to help others) AND that I will add a different dimension of diversity to a university

P.p.s i am not writing this to gain anyones respect or to blow my own horn. I would really appreciate your honest input. Be brutal.

Thanks,

Nathaniel

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Friday, Mar 23, 2018

Seat Deposits

I haven’t had a chance to visit my top 3 law school choices yet, so is it smart to put down multiple seat deposits? I should be able to visit two within the next few weeks.

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Hi everyone,

How do I interpret "All A are only B"?

The conditional is clear, "no B then no A" but when thinking of it from a categorical perspective (like syllogisms etc) I'm no sure what it would look like or how to diagram.

Example:

"All diamonds are expensive"

"All diamonds are only expensive"

The first clearly allows for diamonds to be other things too, like beautiful, sturdy, etc.

But the second seems like it's saying that yes, all diamonds are expensive, but also that they're nothing else (so they're not beautiful or sturdy, just expensive)

Thanks in advance! This has confused me...

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Hey!

Just got my first acceptance last week and it was not my first choice but seeing how this cycle is going it might be my only choice.... so now I am stuck between the choice of going or wait till next cycle and would really like to get your opinion on the matter (it's a big decision!)

Option 1: Go (oh it's BYU btw)

Pros:

  • CHEAPPPPP AF (they offered me a 1/4 merit scholarship so it's basically $5000/semester)
  • I know a lot of people in the area and could get a lot of great jobs and internships (I already have one offer for this summer if I am going to Utah)
  • Cons:

  • UTAH D:
  • Not T15
  • Honour code (but that's another issue)
  • Option 2: Don't go and move to California

    Pros:

  • I can try for California schools again next cycle
  • Going to LA is great for my husband's career (he is in music composition for visual media eg. movies/video games)
  • T15/20
  • Cons:

  • Debt debt debt
  • Expensive housing (more debt)
  • Don't know how long we would have to wait
  • I currently have a 161 and 3.74, applied to BYU (duh), UCLA, USC, Berk, UT, but I doubt I'll get into any of the other schools this cycle. Let me know what you think? I keep getting the "Top15 or don't go" vibe, is that true?

    edit: Might I add that BYU is flying me out from Dublin to Utah next weekend to admitted students day so I could check out the school. They spent like $1k on the ticket and I feel like a superstar.

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    I am unsure where to apply. Here are my stats:

    GPA: 3.65

    LSAT: 165

    Jobs/Internships: ACLU, 3 years at a law firm during college, congressional campaign, Los Angeles Museum of the Holocaust

    College: UCLA

    Have a great letter of rec from a sitting congressman and a few from professors. Where should I apply?

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    Hi everyone!

    I was wondering if someone could share their understanding of this question. I was able to eliminate B, D, and E very quickly, but got tied up between A and C and ended up picking C. I can see why A is a good answer, but I'm having a harder time seeing why C is definitively wrong.

    To me, the stimulus seems like it's saying that the equipment was not available during the review period. Thus adding the equipment will have no effect. I mean, I guess the stimulus doesn't explicitly say that the absence of equipment caused the result, but it seems sort of implied?

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    Hi All,

    (have asked some of you about this and want to crowdsource to maximize feedback)

    I'm curious to hear your thoughts on whether it's a good idea to foolproof LG and drill LR/RC at the same time?

    I'm a strong believer in Foolproofing. It definitely works. However, I've read that many people devote 1 - 2 months to exclusively working on Foolproofing during the process. It seems counterintuitive to me to leave LR/RC to the side, especially if one plans to take the test in June.

    I'm thinking of FP-ing LG sections in the mornings and taking 1 full timed LR or RC sections plus Blind Review in the evening each day. Obviously, I could also spread out the sections and not religiously stick to 1 per day. Anyway, this is just an idea to make sure I don't lose touch with the other 2 sections while working on Foolproofing

    Does anyone have any insight to offer about why I should/shouldn't do this? Or advice for study-schedule planning, methods, etc?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Hey! So I applied to about 14 schools and am still waiting to hear from 13 of them...BUT I just got accepted to a school (not my dream school but still good) with a deposit deadline due April 10 and a scholarship acceptance deadline by April 3. What should I do? I don’t think I’ll get most of my decisions in by those dates at all, since I applied close to the deadline for most of them (took the Feb LSAT)

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    I know I’m gonna feel like an idiot when this is explained, however, right now I feel like an even bigger idiot because the correct AC (B), is really confusing me. If there is much less methane in Earth’s atmosphere today than there was 3billion years ago, then less greenhouse gas equals less heat trapped, and therefore, cooler climate today than 3billion years ago. This appears to strengthen rather than weaken the argument. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY CONFUSION?

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-2-question-25/

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    So I'm posting here in part to rant, and in part in hopes that someone on the forum has had a similar situation and can offer some advice.

    As you might ascertain from the title, this GoodValue™-Soduko of a section is the bane of my existence at this point. On my diagnostic, I started with a -20+. I had no clue how to solve any of the questions. After studying diagramming and using the 7sage CC, I was able to bring it down to -15 to -10, but I cannot seem to break above that plateau. I've been studying for a little longer than a year now, and I've made significant progress in both RC and LR, but LG just won't budge. This is especially frustrating because almost everyone on the forum says that LG is the easiest area to improve -- it just makes me feel stupid every time I go -15+ on a PT.

    For the past month I've been foolproofing games, 6-8 hours a day, but I'm not seeing any progress. I've FP'd all the games from PTs 1-12, 35-40, and 60,61,62. When I foolproof, I do the games until I'm -0 and under time on day 1, then I do the same the next day, and then I wait a week and attempt it again. Only when I can get -0 and under time under all three scenarios do I discard the game. So far I haven't had any problems -- I'm able to remember the inferences and complete the game under timed conditions even after 1 week of not seeing the game.

    The problem is, I feel that every single time I take a PT or a timed section, the test writers do something that I've never seen before, and I just don't have the intuition to handle the twist. If they give me an unfamiliar rule, I almost invariably represent it inefficiently and make false inferences, flunking the game. If it's a miscellaneous game, I'll almost invariably set the game board up incorrectly -- tanking the game. For example (Spoiler regarding PT61), on PT61 S3 G1, I didn't realize that the two groups were interchangeable (I had never seen this before) so I didn't split, tried to brute force and went way over time and flunked the game.

    At this point, it seems inevitable that I'll choke when it comes to the real exam. This is especially frustrating because of how much time I've spent studying my other sections. I'm currently averaging -1.5 per LR section, -1 per RC section, and -12 per LG section. It took me hundreds of hours of study to get LR and RC to where they are, and it feels as though this damn LG section is just destroying that progress.

    Has anyone else been in a similar situation and broken out of the rut? I apologize if the post sounds overly negative, but I just feel so defeated by this section. I would appreciate any advice or encouragement that ya'll could give, because I sure need it.

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    Totally dropped the ball on both of these. Help?

    For Q4: I thought D was totally wrong and I was completely sure of it because I thought to myself, "How could we possibly know what's in the best interest for the military?" I fell for answers A, C (second choice).

    For Q21: I had no idea that "some" came into the mix; totally out of left field.I picked A even though I knew it made no sense. It just made the most sense.

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    Hi All,

    I wanted to start a discussion for those who currently live in the SF Bay Area/Silicon Valley. Those who have plans/dreams to attend law school in the SF Bay/Silicon Valley are welcome to join too! #NorCal

    I’m curious to see out of those who currently live in the Bay Area, if you plan to attend a local law school or venture on to a new locale. I currently live in the heart of Silicon Valley and will be applying to some of the local law schools, as well as some out of the area/state.

    Local Bay Area Schools: Santa Clara Law, Stanford, Berkeley, UC Hastings, Golden Gate, and USF.

    Please feel free to share your thoughts. Looking forward to connecting!

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    I was recently spoke with my 3L friend and he told how skills tested by the Logic Games carry over to law school. He said that law is really a measure of how good you are at puzzles. Can you take a piece of information (the rule), like a puzzle piece, and create a whole picture(your argument) with it in a way that's logical? Have you guys heard something similar in your conversations with law students? Its cool to see that LG, a section that seems so bizarre and unnecessary, is actually very relevant to law school success.

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    Hello 7sage

    I'm writing to try and get a better study schedule going. I'm in post core-curriculum now and I tried setting up a schedule were I'd do a PT every fourth day, but that didnt work because I found myself taking up a lot more time to study my weaknesses. Also I'm currently trying to foolproof the LG's from 1-35 and am having trouble trying to figure out how many times a week I should be doing that versus taking PT's versus studying my weaknesses. Essentially, juggling everything has turned out to be a day by day thing where I have a vague idea of what I'll be working on that day.

    A little background. I am currently in grad school, but I actually have a lot of time on my hands. I am only taking two classes on Mondays, so the rest of the week, is pretty much for studying. I'm also currently not working so that helps. I am taking the November LSAT, so I have a little less than 8 months to study. I have been studying since December. So far, I've been averaging 8-5 wrong on LR, 11-5 wrong on RC, and LG, like I said I've just been foolproofing.

    I've found that I can study for 5 days a week before mentally burning out. I realize that when I try to study and it feels almost impossible to focus. This is one of those days where I'm feeling mentally blocked so that's why I wanted to reach out to you guys.

    So, basically, I'm just trying to find an efficient study schedule I can stick to because I have the time and dedication, I just need to be more organized. Any advise from the kinds of study schedules that has helped you guys, or what you guys recommend would be great.

    You guys are awesome,

    L

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    I get into work every morning, start up my computer, and then open a tab for LSN, LSL, Reddit Law school admissions, and 7sage. I swear I refresh every page at least 2 dozen times a day....and then check the status checker for the 8 schools I'm waiting to hear back from.

    And I get SO frustrated when people who submitted their applications after me, and with lower numbers get in. The silence is killing me slowly (and probably annoying all my friends who are sick about hearing about law school applications).

    We rush everything.

    I couldn't wait to be done the LSAT, then I couldn't wait to finish applications, and now I just can't wait to move and start school. I feel like my life is in this weird holding place. So I'm reminding myself (and anyone who might need it) to chill the eff out.

    This is the last spring/summer before we become law students. The last summer to be (somewhat) carefree. The last time we apply to law school, and can sit here and obsessively talk about a process that has consumed our lives with people online who are essentially strangers. Never in my life did I think I'd be on reddit this often. Old me would make fun of new me.

    Enjoy the process. Breath. Stop obsessing over something that will happen.

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    Hey sagers,

    I have finally come to the conclusion that i need some help w/ taking my RC to the next level. I am averaging -5 per section but its prettly volatile and i can get as little as 2 wrong or as many as 8. Who would you suggest as a tutor for RC methods and time management

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    Came across this profile on LSN today. A person who was a splitter and applied very end of January and decided to wait and re-apply early (September) the next cycle. Says in his comments that he didn't re-write his PS or submit different LORs. Basically, the exact same app.

    Granted, every cycle is a bit different and splitter cycles can always be unpredictable. But super interesting to see the results from a late app to an early app, with the exact same materials.

    First cycle: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/4'sup

    Second cycle: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/4'sup1

    Definitely food for thought for me as I'm contemplating re-applying earlier next year.

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    Hi all,

    After much contemplation, I decided to hold off law school another year and reapply. My UGPA isn't great (~3.35) and my LSAT score definitely needs improvement. Scholarships are the priority, and understand that I'm aiming pretty high. Does anyone have any suggestions/advice about how to approach a retake? I never really finished the full course (skipped around), and I intend to finish it this time. I wanted some ideas on how to set a schedule for PTs/Drills. I plan to retake and reapply in September.

    Any insight is appreciated :)

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