I am scoring in the 165-170 range and my BR score shot up by +10 points.

Granted, I did my BR across 2 days, 2 sections each. I was plateauing for a while so I wanted to really sit and get to the root of the problem.

My most inconsistent hence worse performing section is RC. I attempt three passages in total(out of time) and I score around -5 (in total after reasonably guessing in the 4th passage).

I have some trouble of NA, PSA and SA questions which I am thinking could be fixed by drilling.

Games are usually fine, but if I picked up speed-I could check my work for accuracy and close the -2 to -1 gap that happens

sometimes.

My biggest problem that leads to the staggering difference is mental fatigue/lack of focus/losing the ability to be 100% attentive as I reach the end of section 2 or start section 3. While I know meditation and such factors could help, I am also assuming, if it has to do with the fact that I am not moving fast enough/not answering the earlier LR questions fast enough and giving them too much thought thereby wasting mental energy instead of doing a turbo LR start.

I am looking to all of you people for insights and advice.

Thank you.

Ive noticed that red pencil crayons stand out more when highlighting reading comprehension passages. Are we allowed to bring them into the lsat test centre for this purpose?

Hello all,

I have been leading the September 2018 study group since June (!) and as d-day is getting closer, I'm happy (?) to announce that I will also be leading BR calls for November 2018 LSAT. This group will be starting a week after the September LSAT (Sep 8) so that people who took or were preparing for September can have a week to rest. We will start on September 20th, which is a Thursday night, at 7:30 PM EST.

If you are interested in joining, please comment down below. If the time chosen most absolutely cannot ever work for you, please message me ASAP so that if there's enough people we can change timing or set up an alternate private group for you. Also, if you are just starting to or about to start PT-ing, this schedule will mainly focus on PTs from 70s and 80s, so PLEASE make sure you do some 40s and 50s before just jumping into the recent tests. Also, this schedule is not meant to be followed rigidly so be sure to take breaks when you need to to combat burnout. PTs are just a guage of your skill, they are not sufficient by themselves, to improve your score. You also need to supplement PTs will timed and untimed drills to solidify your strengths and conquer your weaknesses. As equally important is the need for a thorough BR. This means that you go over every question you were unsure of during timed conditions and write or type out your reasoning. Break down the structure of the stimulus, what the question requires for you, and use your reasoning to eliminate four answer choices and keeping one. This is done so that your reasoning is right in front of you and you can reinforce the right reasoning and get rid of the wrong one. A thorough BR does not consist of "oh well had I looked at it for 2 more seconds, I would've picked D instead of B" you are only doing yourself a disservice.

Here is the tentative schedule: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=o5h8pap75saf8pmasoh80m2a80%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FToronto

Here's how the BR groups work:

If you are done the curriculum or almost done the curriculum, join us when you can. We welcome people in all stages of prep. The point of the group is to get your lsat nerd on with other like-minded people and make the process more fun. Expand your thinking and learning by interacting with others! It's all for fun!

Take the PT under timed conditions; BR to the best of your abilities; join us for all or part of the call! For the purposes of the group please don't check the answers beforehand. If you happen to know the answer, keep it to yourself, and win the argument using your reasoning. Also, please don't go "so I know the answer is C but I don't know why B is wrong?" as the purpose is so that we all collaborate on improving our reasoning skills. We will also discuss strategies for getting faster at certain question types.

There will be a spreadsheet posted when we first start PT-ing (so the week of the 20th). Enter the questions you wish to go over on the spreadsheet! Write your name beside the question(s) you wish to cover, if the question(s) you want to cover are already marked by someone else, add your name! :) The more discussion, the merrier. Generally, we only got through one section each session.

We will be using go-to-meeting (access kindly provided by 7sage) and the link will be the same throughout the entire run of the group. It will also be posted on the first week we start.

Oh yes, and also be sure you have watched Josh's seminar on post-CC strategies: https://classic.7sage.com/webinar/post-core-curriculum-study-strategies/

Edit: Also! If you change your username after posting here please inform me, the system does not automatically change old posts made with older usenames with newer ones.

Update: Based off of my experience and deliberation with some other folks, we're going to try something new for this group. Instead of having a call every week, we will instead have a call every other week. The reason being is that I think that the process of taking a PT, BR-ing it thoroughly, and doing drills to address weaknesses that were ascertained from that PT/BR can be really taxing when repeated weekly. I noticed, among myself and regulars on the call, that having the call scheduled every week really exacerbated burnout. Especially since people would try to force themselves to attend as many calls as possible because they felt they'd be missing out and would neglect signs of burnout. I realize that this means there won't be as many calls but this was a decision made after much deliberation. After all, PTs are just a snapshot of your understanding, the bulk of your learning happens in BR and drilling. Of course, people are free to take a PT or two every week if they need to. There is a tentative schedule posted and it has been amended accordingly.

@btownsquee @Kermit750 @"Tim Hortons" @ElleWoods77 @Cachi2719 @Nov2018Taker @Rooney10 @scales_of_j @BinghamtonDave @alyhobbs @teamteamvicster @fengx346 @SLP_futureJD @elias7291 @ksdenos @LCMama2017 @smartaone2 @lsatplaylist @Grace.H26 @"Jamie Lynn B" @Chitown1518 @martyomegafin @Broccoli180 @xenonhexafluoro @xtinextine @jkjohnson1991 @"Michaela.Pratt1" @AshleighK @turnercm @lawhopeful_13 @SVICTORIA @"alice.shang1" @Linda1205 @"forest.dearing.2017" @bartlet4america @Jenny123 @GreenTea @HaloHalo @Bamboosprout @Hamaseh_S @"samantha.ashley92" @jspps2 @"Robert Nozick" @Nina-LSAT @alyssamcc0593 @lins5h284 @supboarder @cadebiyi1 @mvaleo @Ortiz_44 @lsatstar @SamRoseM @"GREG.JOHNSON1994" @"sherryann.joseph" @Mickey_DC @"Melany.hernandez8008" @monicamartinezgnz @davidfstevens14 @"subi rami" @"keatrice.robertson" @unicornia @mkpeaceofmind2016 @smotlani421 @moyalkim @AliBabas @"kathryn.anne.cullen" @skyeleo @"Dan Thillet" @utetchie @akeegs92 @Gustavus @lchaath1 @ahous001 @H_al1411 @"Wavey Boi" @JenBrooklyn @timfinna25 @LSATPrab @Eweissm1 @Shanuchhetri13 @Nefertari @Like_Spike @cdaddario2 @Nabintou @Cryssie @monp0485 @sbennison @walterfromchina @Alexandriat594 @buckmartin @gracecki @Ch000000 @josie110286 @lexilo64 @emilianoromero21 @"Kristen B" @PhilipToronto @Lawful18 @kilgoretrout @fluke180 @Labelle80 @InteriorCrocodileAlligator @coella @LeslieKnopeIsMySpiritAnimal @GBDC0057 @"R. Philly" @byml6832 @"Adam Hawks" @tekken1225 @"Late Not Never" @carolinebarber18 @Ignatius @"LSAT Warrior Princess" @"paulmv.benthem" @DanielB84 @JK_fish92 @"Prudenter Discere" @adstewa @cokarlovich @"Leah M B" @baoxiu124 @Talebiii @"Sabrina I" @marajh92 @Sarah_39 @Jaejaebinx @kelly1234 @dab4186 @andrewcdang @"Mia Fairweather" @BeRelentless @medhanieghen @"Rachel E" @darialmeda @Dary_019 @ajstephens93 @heidehernandezjimenez @"Victoria.Bordignon" @iamgroot @spark23413 @ShanShan @Jenny123 @TChalla @edorion313 @MarieChloe @karlalopez809 @GenGen85 @akriegler @mazqm11 @"cm.rivest" @daphne06 @"subi rami" @prernafaith @cheyennetlewis @iluvcandy07 @"carolee.changfoot" @timfinna25

170 in July (6th take) and 2.99 GPA.

Current offer: 105k Fordham

Goals are BL. Should I take Fordham and run with it or reapply? I'm not a strong T-14 candidate with the # of takes and low GPA. I would take GULC, NW, or UVA but not sure I can get in with my stats. Not sure what to do.

So I’ve been contemplating on writing this post for quite sometime. Mostly from my own personal embarrassment of having an issue with food but also my denial in thinking it wouldn’t make much difference. I’ve read so many posts that talk about eating right on the day of the test and also listened to the webinars where a few people have talked about changing their eating habits while studying. I am going to be very transparent and say that I have struggled with food my entire life. I may or may not be the only one but I certainly don’t want it to continue to affect my ability to do better on this test and even in my life. For the past 2 years I have been able to switch many of the foods that I eat to lower fat and less sugar. For the most part I have been able to switch to healthier options and in doing that while also cutting my portions I have lost a lot of weight. My issue is that I am still not eating healthy per se, nor am I eating enough vegetables. I’ve grown up mostly eating Mexican food. I mean the real southern Mexican food where they don’t put carrots in your rice and they don’t substitute fat because “that’s where the flavor comes from” lol That’s a quote from my family. I also have a love for spicy food. I prefer salty and spicy over sweet and savory. This community has been so great in helping myself and so many others when it comes to helping prepare for a test that makes or breaks our ability to get into the schools we want. That is why I am reaching out and being vulnerable in this confession that I feel my lack of healthy eating is hindering my ability to score higher. Does anyone have advice on how to eat better and what foods to eat? I feel if I had some guidance then it would be much easier for me to make a change. I don’t want to follow a strict diet and I’m not looking for weight loss tips. I just would genuinely like some advice on how to eat healthier and more specifically what are the best foods to help with brain function. I find myself feeling sluggish and sometime even a bit foggy. I know these things can also be affected by sleep so that is something I’m working on as well. For those who offer advice thank you in advance and for those that are just here to see what the food post was about haha thank you for reading.

Hello everyone, I’m new to this page and would really need help.

I’m almost done my undergrad and I am really want to study Law. I am currently working my butts off to maintain a strong cgpa however I don’t know where to start in studying for the LSATs. Can anyone guide me as to where to begin?

Thank you.

Hi all,

I am currently drowning in papers because of all the fool proofing I've been doing. Once you finish fool proofing a section of games (i.e. all the "Introduction to Logic Games & Sequencing Games" logic games) do you throw them away? Do you keep them? What's the most efficient way to manage all this paper? I plan to return to the games I just fool proofed, once I'm done with the CC for Logic Games so I'll be returning to the ones I've already fool-proofed to make sure that what I've learned sticks.

I've heard of people keeping track of their scores/ timing per logic game on excel but that seems a little unnecessary to me and I am not the best at Excel.

I hope I made sense.

Thanks!

Hi,

I was wondering if "provided that" is a necessary or sufficient assumption indicator? (Please see below)

You will appreciate cultural differences "provided" that you reflect on your own civilization.

How about "contingent on", "assuming that", "as long as"?

Thanks

Maybe I'm the only one who didn't know this, or maybe it's an android only issue, but did you guys know that when you turn on the proctor app it stops the video recording? Either that or I really do forget to hit record that many times :joy: In all seriousness, this is not the issue because I tested it out.

d

I tend to have music on in the background when I review. I've tried to keep my main jams going (K.Dot, J.Cole, Champagne Papi, etc.), but I just start jamming out, so I had to stop that. I now have Spotify's song radio playing off of an initial Debussy or Saint-Saëns number. So, I'm curious: what do y'all listen to when studying?

NYU announced today that starting with this academic year, all medical school students will attend tuition free. Not need based or merit-based ... Free!! Tuition last year was $56K but officials said it was discouraging people from attending or selecting certain specialties. Is there any chance that NYU will do this for their law school??

... I'll be keeping an eye open to see if they do the same for NYU Law... If so it'll certainly be my top choice!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/l0NwNrl4BtDD7JCx2/giphy.gif

By my count the common core uses 19 PT’s (17-35). My question is, does the common use every question from these tests? I could see maybe for LR but not so much for LG.

Can you solve this or is this invalid

A - (some) - B

B - (all) - c

After learning that the September LSAT is the last score you can submit for early decision, I am now contemplating whether I should hunker down, achieve my fullest potential score and apply for next cycle. I am scoring in the 160s while BR is 173-180. It pains me to see such a big gap every time between actual and BR scores. I am taking the September test and will do my absolute best on it, however, I'm afraid it might not reflect my best potential score (which I understand to be the BR scores).

The reason I am hesitating on waiting to apply next cycle is TIME. I had my heart set on starting school next fall, graduating, start working and then think about starting a family with my husband. All of this would be pushed back a year, and I've come to realize how valuable time really is. I am in my mid-20s and have work experience in journalism. I also need to get scholarships and my goal from the beginning of my LSAT journey has always been a full ride.

With all that said, should I wait and apply next winter? Should I apply for regular admissions this cycle with my September score? Sign up for November?

The weight of my future feels especially heavy this morning. Any input will be greatly appreciated :)

Hello, thanks for all the people at a great community in 7Sage and J.Y., I recently broke 170 for the first time.

I was really surprised because I've been constantly scoring in the range of 163 and 166.

I might have been just very lucky although I hope it was not.

However, whatever I do, my blind review score does not go above 173 and I am wondering if it is possible to improve my BR score and how anybody succeeded in doing so if it is possible. I am feeling like 173 is the max score I can get and although I would be very happy with that score, I am just hoping that I can score better on the PTs because I usually tend to score worse on the PTs than in real exams due to anxiety and etc. I tried reviewing all question in LR and RC sections regardless of whether the questions were circled or not, but I still got 173.

Thank you so much in advance for all your help!

I've missed nearly every single Evaluate question I've come across. How are we supposed to approach these? Is there a list of all the evaluate questions anyone can share for drilling?

Format Edited by Admin #HELP My goal for the LSAT is to score in the 160 range. Honestly just anything above 160. Currently I have not seen much improvement on my practice exams. I am worried that my self-studying has not been effective thus far as I was only using the powerscore bibles up until this point. With less than a month left until the September test date (that I am currently registered for) I am wondering if I should postpone my exam until November. What would everyone suggest? I AM FREAKING OUT!

Admin note: Please refrain from using "#" at the beginning. The character "#" indicates a subheading: Markdown

Hey all,

i've been realizing I get around 2-3 wrong per section in LR that are due to overconfidence errors.

i usually kinda go through these questions quite fast/think they're relatively easier.

When I see I got them wrong during review, I realize that it's often a common trap AC that I've just been easily duped for. This may happen because there's an attractive trap AC that is right in all areas except the scope is wrong.

Or if it's a NA question, I'd pick the SA answer rather than the NA answer.

Overall, I can kinda live with getting 5 star curve breaker questions wrong.

But getting these relatively easier/medium difficulty questions as overconfidence errors is a real pain in the butt.

Any advice on overcoming and preventing overconfidence errors in LR?

I've seen a lot of advice on ppl addressing under confidence errors -- by being more reckless, aggressive, etc. But I haven't seen too much on addressing overconfidence errors.

Hey there. I'm starting with PTs in 4 days. I have 50 days till the test and I can only take about 20-25 tests if I take a test every second day. I'm confident it's doable. Thoughts? CANNOT postpone. Tell me the numbers of some of the toughest PTs you've taken. Thanks !

Most of the time when I review JY's videos for the LR questions I get wrong I completely understand the right answer. Its like I get smacked in the head - I mean, duh, the right answer is so obvious. Rarely do I review a wrong answer that I don't understand and it makes me wonder why I can't see it when I'm first doing the question. My guess is that I'm at fault with these:

Is there anything else that I'm missing?

hey all,

so i've been struggling with overconfidence errors in RC. I average about -5/-6 timed RC, and -2 for BR.

Of the -5/-6 timed, 3 of them are overconfidence errors

those errors are usually where i pick one answer choice, and am pretty sure, and sometimes don't read the other answer choices.

other times it's that i get tricked by a trap AC.

any one have any advice??

it's always tough to balance timing with accuracy with RC, as well as to find that sweet spot of not being overconfident but also not being under confident. should i more intentional in trying to eliminate wrong AC's for more questions?

any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. thank you!

So, every time I enter my ACs into 7sage for a given PT, I put my left hand on the number keys and FLY through it without looking. This skills is, without a doubt, Guitar Hero muscle memory resurfacing after 10 years. I wonder what a PT would sound like mapped out on a fretboard...

Has anyone else had this thought?? Just thought it was funny and wanted to share.

Hey 7Sagers! I took the July administration as my third take, and scored a 166. I was PT-ing around 170 before the test, so I think I may have a decent chance of scoring at least a 169 in my next take, which would be November. I was wondering what is the better strategy: applying early (September) with a 166/3.4 GPA or re-taking in November and potentially scoring a 169, but then applying later in the cycle (early December when scores come out). My goal is to land at least a T-14, but more than happy to go to T-20 with scholly money. I am not a URM but a female Pakistani immigrant working in immigration law. Any advice is appreciated!