Hi All,

I'm in a bit of a unique position. I'm wondering what the impact of my low GPA would be. I have a 2.83 undergrad GPA and a 159 on the LSAT. I also have a severe disability which can partially explain my low GPA, and depending on who you ask makes me an underrepresented minority. I'm trying to narrow down my list of schools and I'm having a hard time figuring out which schools are safety schools, which schools I'm competitive at etc. What does it look like to admissions when your GPA is well below the median but your LSAT score is above it? When your LSAT score is around the median? For what it's worth, I'm interested in a very specific area of law (health law) and I care more about a school having a good health law program than it's overall ranking and selectivity. Also, I feel as though I could've done better on the LSAT. How much of a difference do you think it would make if I took it again and maybe scored a few points higher? Any advice would be much appreciated!

Do Canadian law schools (in Ontario, specifically) allow you to apply through the LSAC, or is it pretty standard that you have to apply using the OLSAS directly?

Hi guys,

One question ! I am actually not understanding how I should approach Weakening questions. I understand that you have to identify the premise (s) and conclusion of the stimulus, but from there I blank out as soon as I see the answer choices. Any advices ? Also, JY says that we should not attack the premise and conclusion of a stimulus, but when studying off of Power Score the book said to weaken an argument by attacking a premise or conclusion. I am very confused. Please help ! Thanks .

What do you guys use? The sites I found like US news make you pay to see a lot...

Hello everyone, so I got my lsat score back and it's not the score I was hoping for, just shy of a 150. I've studied over the course of the last 5 months which I thought was intense studying. Someone please tell me there's no ceiling, that I can only go up from this score. I'm hoping I can review the CC all over again and it will be more clear. I'm just hoping I didn't reach my maximum :(

I messed up RC on the June exam. Walked away thinking I did pretty good but ended up getting 5 wrong on the last passage alone and -8 for the entire RC. I was PTing -2/-4 on the recent PT’s

That is exactly where I started when I first did a RC section almost two years ago and after many long hours of studying it didn’t do me any good on that exam.

In the process of studying I have completed every single PT except for PT 83.

What do you guys think is the best strategy for now until the July exam?

Thanks!

I am receiving two letters of recommendation from professors that I had during my undergrad studies. However, I wanted to know if it would be a good idea to get a professional letter of recommendation from a supervisor at my current job. I work at a very well-known police department in the country. Would it look good in addition to the two educational letters that I am also getting? The letter would be from a lieutenant. Thanks.

Hey - I know the writing sample doesn’t get as much attention as the rest of the lsat , but how did everyone prepare for that section ? Did you only prep for it while taking the pt

Hoping to get some thoughts from outsiders perspective. Just checked my June score and got a 165.

This is a few points below my average PTs (168) with a few in the low 170s. I know conventional wisdom is that I should definitely retake (and I plan to), it's just a matter of when.

I'm signed up for the July LSAT and I'm trying to decide whether or not to take it. Heres my situation: I'm joining the Peace Corps and leaving the country September 15. While I could technically take the September exam, I've ruled it out because I don't want to be studying for the lsat until right before I leave. I'm prioritizing spending time preparing for my service and visiting friends and family before I'm gone for 2 years (I highly doubt I'll be able to come back and visit during my service).

So I'm trying to decide if I should take the July test or push back retaking until I get back from the PC. I'm comfortable with waiting. I'm not opposed to finishing my service and moving back, finding a job and working at a nonprofit for a year or however long it takes while I pick back up my studies. But I also think if I could score a 170 in July I wouldn't have to take it again.

GPA is right around a 3.5 and my goals are lower T-14 or a hefty scholarship to a Tier 1 school in the south.

I just don't think I can do enough in 3 weeks to feel confident that I can get a 170 on the July test and given that it would take up one of the 2.5 months I have left I'm just not sure the trade-off is worth it.

Score breakdown for June was -3 LG, -6 RC, -5 LR, -3 LR

I messed up my timing on RC and missed 3 from speeding through the last passage. My LG score is pretty representative and I usually miss between 1 and 4 on LR sections. What do y'all think I should do?

Edit: also this was my second take. First was a 160 in September 2017 after self studying.

Hello Everyone,

I have been taking practice tests and I notice that I am overwhelmingly getting necessary assumption questions wrong. I understand the basics for solving them such as finding the gap. However, are there any patterns with solving necessary assumption questions. I found noticing patterns for weaken/strengthen to be very helpful and they’ve become my stronger question type. I greatly appreciate any feedback. Thank you!

Hi All,

Having serious problems with figuring out this question. E is the right answer, but I chose B. My thinking for B is that it may have been a coincidence that all three times Monroe had eaten at Tip-Top, was already ill beforehand but was not obvious until after. So having not eliminated this possibility, I thought, was the flaw. Although i can see how E works, I am still not entirely convinced and definitely do not feel it is a better answer than B. Can anyone please explain to me how they went about thinking about this question?

Thanks!

Hello everyone,

Kind of in a tight spot. Have taken the LSAT three times thus far. Based on my most recent score I would still qualify as a reverse splitter for T14 schools. I’m trying to weigh my options of applying among the T14 this cycle vs a 4th take in July and how that might look. I underperformed my PT range by about 5 points on the June 2018 exam. Above 75th GPA wise but sitting around 25th for LSAT.

I have read various posts about the upper limit for the number of takes but I am still searching for some advice.

Not sure if most simply would simply base their position off plugging the numbers in LSN and judging off there, but I am somewhat concerned about how a fourth take would look.

Any advice is appreciated,

Thank you all

Tears. That's how this all started and feels like that's how it's just going to keep continuing.

The thought of wanting to be an attorney never occurred to me as a child until I had to sit through the medical malpractice case after my dad passed away from a doctor's stupid case. I was 12 years old, bawling my eyes out and in order to stop making a fool out of myself, I decided to concentrate hard on our attorney's opening statement. I fell in love with the field after that. Ask me about any SCOTUS decision, and I"ll tell you the rules they used, the dissents, and the facts of the case.

Flash forward 9 years later, I'm in my room, bawling my eyes out at my LSAT score.

Kind of funny, isn't it? The irony of it all?

It's so freaking frustrating.

I have a UGPA of a 2.88 (upward trend to a 3.45 by the end of my last year) all because I had a severe case of iron deficiency anemia (that had left me bruised up all over at one point) that went undiagnosed and left my brain constantly feeling foggy/ wasn't able to concentrate. Once I had the ability to see a doctor (thanks, Obama) I was diagnosed and that's where you were able to see that upward trend in my grades.

My first lsat was a 149.

My second lsat was canceled because the testing center was loud.

My third lsat was a 148 (I'm fully convinced this was a bubbling error)

My fourth? a 152.

I've ran local and statewide campaigns, have an impressive resume that ranges from AmeriCorps to non-profit work. I work at a law firm now. Helped organized food drives for our homeless community. Have a clean background.

I freaking LOVE the law. As much as everyone hates it, I wish I was in law school. I envy everyone that is.

Why is this so difficult?

I just .. I don't know what I"m doing posting this, but I guess I'm just looking for advice. Words of wisdom. Anything.

Much love to the 7sage community. You all keep me sane, nonetheless.

Happy Grey Day everyone and best of luck. No matter the result, you're all winners in my eyes.

In the Blind Review topic, J.Y. talks about cutting out certain questions that you get wrong. Is there a summary anywhere of when to do this? He talks about doing this a lot, but I don't think I'd be able to remember when to actually do it.

Hi everyone. This is my first time posting a discussion.. and I'm a little nervous. But anyways, here goes nothing. Does having a graduate degree make you stand out when applying to law school? I can go to a local university, be done in 2 years, and with my mom being a Professor I wouldn't pay. I am already taking this year off to study for the LSAT and I'm looking to take it in November.

Good afternoon,

I received my June LSAT score today. My score was 159 and my current GPA is 3.87. Here is some data about the University of Georgia's applicant pool from last year https://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/SchoolsABAData/SchoolPage/SchoolPage.aspx

I will definitively retake, but this was a positive test take for me and I am not sure how much I can improve at this point. With strong LOR's, PS, and GPA, but a mediocre LSAT, how far behind the blackball will I be of receiving acceptance to UGA if I don't improve my score?

Thank you in advance! I hope the June test treated people well. I'm so thankful for the helpful 7Sage community.

Hey Sagers,

I currently have the starter pack and I am about 1/2 through the games portion of the CC. I am pretty solid on games. The section where I think I stand the most to gain is LR. RC is not that strong however I have made some big improvements. So I am not too concerned with RC. Also, I think RC comes a little easier when you are proficient in LR. The dilemma is whether or not to upgrade. I have two copies of PT 7- 50s. So it really comes down to the drill packs, PTs 60-80s, and the explanations. The extra PTs will cost somewhere around $70. The upgrade is $570. So I'd be paying $500 for the explanations and the drill packs. JY's explantations have been very helpful more so than the Manhattan and Powerscore forums. I am taking the September Test.

Has anyone been in a similar situation and upgraded? Was it worth it?

Also are the RC explanations of the same quality as the LR?

Thanks!

I took the June 2018 LSAT and scored right at the low end of where I want to be. I plan on retaking in September. Any advice on how best to prep in the next couple of months? I feel like I set myself up really well for the test in June and I am out of fresh PTs to use. Thoughts?

Do you guys ever feel that by studying really hard for the LSAT you are "sneaking" into a school where you don't belong or don't deserve to attend? I was thinking about this last night on my drive home...

I could delay my apps, take another year to study, and achieve an elite score in order to get into a T14... But when I get there, would I be surrounded by a bunch of naturally brilliant people who achieved a 170+ with little effort? I started worrying, "how could I possibly contribute to a community of people who can achieve with minimal effort, a task that took me maximum effort?!"

This isn't something that I worry about deeply... I just thought it would make an interesting discussion since I'm sure I am not the only one who has encountered feelings of self-doubt from time to time.

Seeking insight from people who have experienced this for themselves.. If you spent a very long time mastering the LSAT and gaining admissions to a top notch school, how did you fare as a 1L? Did you find anything that surprised you about your classmates? Did you suffer from Imposter Syndrome? If so, how did you overcome?

So guys, what were your verdicts? I'm curious to hear the stories/vents... has anyone taken a step back, and has perhaps consider the GRE as an alternative? Or are you guys more motivated than ever to show the next test that you're going to destroy it? Regardless. I'd love to hear from anyone who is willing to express their experience from today!

Anybody else?

Hey all,

So i know like 90% of LR weaken and other questions attack relationship btw premise and conclusion.

But some actually attack the premise. I just did PT 48.4.23 -- it's a weaken EXCEPT question, and one of the weaken answer choices just wrecked the premise. the question is correlation causation, but one one weaken answer choice just said that the correlation actually doesn't exist (effectively wrecking one of the premises).

I've done a couple other weaken questions where they go after the premise.

What are some of the traits of questions/arguments/stimuluses where the premise is attacked?

is it just for correlation/causation questions -- where you can wreck the correlation? or is it also for survey/data questions, where you can just wreck the survey/data?

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.

thank you!

Just got the email says there is a hold on my score. The only thing i can guess is i printed too big when copying that paragraph

Anyone who recently took the lsat (or is just studying for it) been having stress dreams? They’re driving me crazy and leave me more tired than the night before. Anyone care to share theirs?