I really want to start this year so I emailed the school of choice (buffalo) to see if they’d take my july exam. It’s my first score. Here’s what they said: just didn’t know if you guys had any thoughts if I’d have a shot or not. Like if spots are filled etc. I have a meeting Monday. Thanks!

Thank you for your email. July LSAT scores are expected to be released on or around August 10, which is just 10 (or so) days before mandatory orientation and just 11 days before 1L classes begin (LAWR). While it's technically possible for us to accept the July LSAT, you would need to be prepared, if admitted, to begin law school in about a week's time. If you are interested in applying with the July LSAT, I encourage you to schedule a short phone call with Dean Lindsay Gladney to discuss in greater detail.

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Hi All,

When you take your practice tests do you use the distractions on the proctor tool? I began using it this practice test on a level 3 volume, and it sounded like the person next to me was tearing up their test page by page! I know some people have had bad experiences when taking the test as far as distractions, but is it generally as bad as the distraction tool on the app? My testing environment before was subject to occasional interruptions from outside my apartment or my dog, but after I began using the app's distractions, my score tanked 5 points.

I suppose prepare for the worst hope for the best?

What would you do?

Let's form a study group! :sunglasses:

Hey everyone for rc did you use older passages for drilling ? (Under pt 50 ). I’ve seen discussions saying they are too different to be useable . Thanks

Hey everyone- with the ultimate I have up to pt 72 for the explanations. I also want access to the more recent pts. Should I purchase a few individually ? Upgrade my package ? I also need to renew my account as well.

Hi 7sagers,

So I just had a pretty disappointing performance on LG and I am starting to get worried about my ability to improve my score by September. I spent the last month or so fool-proofing LG and I just took PT 32 timed and scored a -8 in LG. To put that in perspective, I scored a -8 on LG 1 month ago (before i started really fool-proofing). This means that across 25ish PT's worth of games I found no (consistent) improvement. Across the first 30 PT's my best score for a section was -2, but that's very rare for me. On average I'd guess that my LG score is something like -5 for a section. I'm starting to think that I need to start fool-proofing over from the beginning again.

Additionally, despite the fact that I have completed the CC, my LR scores are around -6/-7 per section and my RC is at -10. This puts my PT average, accounting for variance, somewhere between 158 and 161 with a BR score of 172-174. If I want to improve to a 170 by September, what do I need to do to have the best shot? Is a 9-12 point improvement in this situation unrealistic for two months? Should I restart fool-proofing until i'm consistently -3 or better? Should I start working more on RC since i'm losing about 10 points per section in this area? Should I still be taking a PT every Saturday?

I would really appreciate any feedback about similar situations or any advice that you all can give me. I don't expect anyone to answer all of these questions but I'd like to put it out there as this is a pretty big personal let-down.

Thanks

Hi guys!

I've been working on my PS, and I keep wondering if I should somehow tie it into my interests in law, or just leave it be. It's so far about overcoming generational expectations on women (or lack thereof) and becoming a first generation college student/ degree holder. I kind of feel like it sets up an obvious path to higher learning and my desire for it, but doesn't quite tie into law exactly. Does it really need to? Can it just stand alone as a story about realizing obstacles and overcoming them in my pursuit of education and a better life?

Hi everyone! Does anyone know of law schools that offer financial incentives for those that apply early decision? I know WUSTL and BU have such programs, but looking to see all of my options. Thanks!

Hello everyone- should we memorize the types of valid and invalid argument forms . I reviewed them from the cc but can’t seem to commit every single one to memory. What’s everyone’s take on this ?

I am open to in-person meet ups or phone/video.

Hi all - I'm curious if others have opinions on the regional differences (or similarities) in BigLaw culture/work-life balance. I work at a BigLaw firm in Minneapolis, and have noticed that very few attorneys work the extreme hours that characterize the BigLaw environments of NY, CA, etc. I've heard that the Midwestern BigLaw lifestyle is much more relaxed, and am wondering if anyone could speak to BigLaw in other regions of the US (the south, Florida, Southwest, Northeast outside of New York, etc.). I would happy working in a BigLaw environment that emulates my firm, but not a BigLaw environment like in NY.

I have been drilling LR sections for a while, and I used to have a -4/-6 for LR sections in PT 18-35.

However, I began doing PT 1-16 four days ago, and I found that I now have a -1/-3 for these older PTs (I have done 6 of them so far).

Does that mean I made some improvements or are those older LR sections just easier in nature?

I haven't got to PT 36-83 yet. Could anyone please also tell me the estimated difficulties of the LR sections in those PTs (as compared to PT 1-35)?

Thanks!

Hey all,

i just spent 3 hours BR'ing my RC section. I would reread the passage (do low and high res summary, VIEWSTAMP, etc.), and then go over questions i circled. I would prove 1 AC right and 4 AC wrong, often with specific line references. It took 3 hours.

I usually hit around -4/5 timed and -1/2 for BR.

IS this normal? how long do you guys usually take for BR'ing RC?

Any other advice, suggestions, or comments would be appreciated :)

Thanks!

Hi everyone! The webinar is up here: https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/webinar/

Update

Thank you to everyone who left a comment! The winner of the Edit Once giveaway is Alyssa V!

Note that we picked the winner randomly from the webinar's attendance report, then checked to make sure the winner had left a comment.

We'll probably do another webinar July 10, 11, or 12. Until then!

To enter the edit giveaway lottery:

7Sagers,

On Wednesday, June 27, at 9 p.m. ET, I’ll give you a bird’s-eye view of the admissions process. I’ll touch on almost every component of your application and take questions at the end.

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→ Please register for the webinar (June 27, 2018 @ 9:00 p.m. ET) here: https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_MtGPaBXPRBS72FPCI5aO3A

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar.

Zoom might prompt you to download something before you can join the webinar, so I’d advise you to show up a bit early on Wednesday.

Hope to talk to you there!

I've been struggling to find ways to work on questions before watching the CC videos,

and just realized I can print out all the prep tests... all the hours I spent on screenshots...

I am open to any study, or performance ideas for my successful work with logic games. I study each day, do the games daily, and watch the videos. I have seen some improvement. However, not with my quickness to compete the games. I also seem to often created three or four boards, as opposed to possibly using two. I have cracked a 100 once on one of the games, sometimes I get 4/6. I have watched the videos repeatedly. Other than repetition, does anyone have any tips or suggestions?

I have a background in the humanities and social sciences, and my study techniques usually involve memorization of everything for any exam.

Perhaps, this is a form of test anxiety, and I am self defeating. However, any study tip would be greatly appreciated. No idea is too simple, and all advice I will take seriously. Thank you for taking the time to read my post.

Hello everyone,

I have been crushing it lately in Logic Games when I do timed sections/tests, but can't seem to improve at all on LR. I am thinking of going back through most of the LR curriculum, but I wanted to hear from you all on your tips and tricks to consistently get better at LR over time. I am currently averaging -14 per LR. I would truly appreciate any type of help as I am most likely going to consistently drill in my head how to get better at LR before July and most likely when I take the test again in September.

Thanks!

I started 7sage with a 138, and I have done every preptest, until preptest 79. Drum roll please... 161! I'm still 4 points under my goal, of 165. I hope there is still some improvement before the july test. Reading comp is my weakness, especially the science passages.

I'm thinking this question rewards those with outside knowledge of the legal system and here's why.

For some reason, A was lost among me, so I kept it as a contender and kept moving through the answer choices. I got to E and thought it sounded good so I chose it.

In my mind, I mistakenly thought that juries worked by defaulting to a not-guilty verdict when a unanimous decision to convict couldn't be reached. With this embarrassing understanding in mind, I thought that if different jurors couldn't agree on the significance of a testimony, that would leave some of the jurors to conclude that what Tagowa had to say, even if true, was trivial, or didn't matter in the grand scheme of things so these particular jurors wouldn't convict based on it. Now I know that any verdict requires a unanimous decision, even a not guilty verdict. However, doesn't that reward those who know that about the legal system? Is that supposed to be common knowledge? If so, I'll happily take my L. I could just be laughably misinformed about our legal system. What do you guys think?

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Video explanation: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-4-question-13/

Whats going on 7sagers,

I wanted to get some opinions on using a wipe board to fool proof games. I know the best way to do it is on paper the way it is presented on the actual test. However printing sufficient amount of copies could get a little expensive. Has anyone used a wipe board to fool proof? Thanks for the input and good luck with the rest of studies!

Hello,

I just have a quick question and would appreciate anyone's comments on this. I somehow managed to go from -15 on RC sections consistently for a while to -11 and -9. I went -15 on PT 63,65,79,81,83 and went -11 and -9 on PT 76 and 78. Do you guys think PT 76 and 78 had an unusually easy set of passages??(If that's the consensus, that wouldn't be uplifting...) I mean yes PT 76 had an unusually easy set of logic games, no doubt about it... but since LG isn't as relative as RC, I would like to know whether my RC has improved or that those two RC sections were a breeze to most...

p.s_ I did notice that one passage in PT 78(that clay *hit) was very similar to the beads nonsense passage from PT 76 under timed condition.

Michigan Law emailed us to say they had a higher than typical yield on their admission offers and are offering students the chance to automatically defer any scholarships for a year rather than reviewing decisions on a case by case basis.

If anyone is still riding the Michigan waitlist, this is probably bad news. If they are trying to get accepted students to defer, they probably won't be accepting many more people if any off the waitlist.

This is my first post on this forum, so hello everyone!

I've been studying for a while now and as I was drilling LG today I couldn't help but wonder:

Are the pages on the actual LSAT double sided for the LG section?

I'm asking because I often find that I have to re-copy my master diagram if the pages are double sided, since going back and forth between pages to look at my diagram is highly inefficient.

On the other hand, if the section is single sided, there would be no need to re-copy the original diagram.

It's a minor concern, but I'm wondering because it could potentially save 30 seconds per game. I also want to be able to practice as effectively as possible.

Thanks!

H

I am currently drilling Main Point questions and I have come across question #3 from PT9 Section 2 and I am slightly confused. I chose "this concept of balance, however, does not justify concealing or glossing over basic injustices in an effort to be even-handed" as the main conclusion. I chose answer choice C but I am nonetheless confused as to why B is the correct answer choice.

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