Quick Question: Is it necessary to read the directions every time you repeat a game during foolproofing? I just do it to simulate everything as it would be in a real exam.

Does anyone have any additional advice for reading comp? I am getting like -4 on LR, and -2 on LG but then Reading comp I'm getting like -12's. Trying the memory method but it just doesn't seem to be sticking? Looking just for some other tactics that have worked for people that I could try.

Thanks.

W.T.F? 167

-8 in one LR section? 6 in a row...

-0 in RC?

Do I even know this test? You guys are trolling me.... I've NEVER gone -0 in RC and I haven't gone -8 in LR since June....

I'm curious if there are any ways to "identify" the experimental section. I feel like after taking so many exams, doing so many questions etc. I will be able to have a feel for which one it might be - thoughts?

This advice might be too little too late for those of you next week, but if it can be helpful for anyone...

I have been struggling mightily with confidence and have seen my scores dip significantly in the past couple of weeks. Part of the struggle is due to the fact that the last time I sat for the test, I massively underperformed and was miserable over my score. So miserable that I swore off the LSAT/law school for several years.

Once I got back into prep, I decided that I was going to save that PT for right before the test to prove to myself that I was much better prepared, could do this, blah, blah, blah. I hadn't looked at the PT since getting my score back so it was essentially fresh. (Did I mention that I swore off the test for so long that my original score is no longer on the record? (Gross I'm old/thank goodness.))

Long story short, I went from a 160 to a 176, and was one question away from a 180 in BR.

I say this not as a humble brag (ok, maybe a little bit of that) but because I have more confidence now than I've had at any point in my prep. I think a huge mental hurdle for retakers is the fact that you KNOW it can go sub-optimally. But by taking the one that originally got the best of you...well, you get what I'm saying.

(Also, major props to 7Sage because even if I hadn't underperformed as much as I did, I still wouldn't be close to the level I'm at now.)

Its skipping my mind right now, as I studied it before. But, in grouping games (not in/out) why do we use A -> ~B instead of A (--)~B for rules like A can't be added to the same class as B

Recently took PTs A, B, and C2 (3 of the 4 released February exams that I know of). Scored in the high 170s on all three, each at least 6 points higher than my average across all of the other tests. In June I scored in the high 160s. I realize these three tests constitute a small sample size, but to have such a significant jump -- and so consistent a jump at that -- makes me extremely skeptical. Do February exams have easier curves, with people who wait until the last second to take the exam? That's my best guess at this point...

Anyone else notice the same with their scores?

I am going to take the September lsat; I took a practice lsat on saturday and was wondering if i should review/relax until saturday or take another practice exam before the actual test day? and If so which day is best to take practice exam on? Thanks and good luck everyone.

Hi,

Can anyone confirm whether or not there is now an experimental section included for accommodated test takers? Also, I assume that for accommodated test takers who are taking the test not on Sept 16 (within a week after is what they go by if the center can't administer the accommodated LSAT on the same day as the normal one), it will be a different test?

Hello,

I have heard there is a resurgence of misc games on more recent LSAT. I am trying to practice those games, mainly from PT's under 40 but every time I get to an explanation JY says that the type of game is not on modern LSAT. Should I just try pull misc games from more recent LSAT then? Any recommendations on specific misc games to practice? I was trying not to pull from those to save them for full PT's but I also want to be fully prepared for any weird games that may come up.

I'm having a bit of a hard time deciding whether or not I should include a brief period of volunteering on my resume.

Context: I volunteered with a legal advice centre for up to ~3 months (I have yet to work out the exact dates). The organisation has a training course for their volunteers to complete before they do solo work with clients. The course is meant to take many months to complete, and I didn't finish it before I left. Much of my experience at the organisation was spent shadowing trained volunteers and sitting in on cases. I stopped volunteering when it became clear I didn't have enough time to commit (1 full day per week + training), given my paid job and my LSAT studies. I left on good terms and was told they would have loved for me to stay. I was officially counted as a volunteer for this time period, but only as a trainee.

Question: Do I include this on a resume?

Arguments against:

Arguments for:

Just need as many 2nd opinions as I can with this one. I don't want to include anything which would make me seem like a flake, or make me seem like I'm struggling to pad a resume.

Hi everyone,

Goodluck to those who are taking in Sept! And to the rest of you studying!

I need some advice. This whole week I was down with the flu so I didn't get much studying done. About 1.5 weeks ago, I was averaging in the low 160s with a few outliers in the 165-166 range, felt pretty confident in my abilities but I knew I could improve more. LG was down to about -2, LR was down to -4 to -6, and RC was about -6 to -8. I revisited the CC twice already and thought I had established some fairly good understanding of the fundamentals.

Prior to this week of getting sick, I did a few preptests and they were significantly lower than usual (I'm talking like 157, 154 and 158...) I'm not sure why this is, I took them on different days - during review, the answers seemed evident... I revisited the CC again after this but of course my sickness got in the way for the week. I just did PT78 and scored a 160 so that made me feel a bit better (at least it wasn't in the 150s lol) but the questions I was getting wrong, I could get them right under review. So I thought okay maybe it's timing again (had another instance of a timing issue previously), so I just did PT60 first LR section allowing myself a bit more time (40 min) and got -10...

Help :( I thought I was making some progress in LR... With the test coming up literally in one week, I am thoroughly freaking out.

Has anyone else had wildlly fluctuating scores??? Please let me know your thought process and recommendations on how I should keep studying, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you!!!!

Pure sequencing is one of my weaker areas and I'm starting to wonder if it might be easier and save more time for me to translate each rule individually and then make a master diagram. I feel like this may be easier for me to make inferences and it also allows me to avoid having to erase certain sequences when you find out that the next rule changes things, ultimately saving me time in the long run.

I'm curious to know how you guys all approach diagramming pure sequencing games!

Is there a way to get the Cambridge Drill Packs at all anymore?

(This very well might have already been posted so bear with me)

I came across this cool website on growth vs. fixed mindsets.

http://www.mindsetonline.com/whatisit/about/index.html

As we are all in this brutal LSAT studying boat together, I think we all can agree that it's very easy to fall off into the sea of a fixed mindset mentality. I hit a wall last Sunday harder than I ever have while studying for the LSAT and I was definitely reverting back to a fixed mindset mentality. We ALL have great talents and our hard work is going to push us to attaining our ideal score.

Hope this was beneficial for anyone who needed it :)

Hey guys,

I'm taking the Sept test and was wondering which exam I should take for my final PT tomorrow.

Please let me know if there are any unique or interesting question types that are not typically found in any other PTs.

Thanks!!

I just wanted to rave a little bit cause I'm pumped. So i did the full core curriculum, then just wrote my first practice LSAT. My cold diagnostic back in May I got a 142. On this test I got a 161 before BR and a 165 after BR. I'm not writing until December but I am already pumped about the progress just made! Thanks 7Sage!

Hello

Any advice for my case

Last week I took PT 75 and got a 171 and been averaging 170 from PT 70 -76.

I recently took LSAT 77 and 78 and got 165 and 164 respectively, I doubt it was burnout because I took them two days apart.

Anyone have any idea what is going on and what I can do? I feel hopeless. My ideal score is 166 +.

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I've been actually consistently studying and doing full BRs. I've noticed I've been increasing as of late. 151 to 155 to 157. I've had sporadic studying for the past year and didn't see much of any improvement, but I feel like continually doing it though I've had the flu for the last two weeks has given me hope that I can reach the 170s by the Dec. test.

This test is not series of peaks and valleys but a long, brutal ascent.

I will say that stamina is a huge thing. I do decent the first two sections. Then when the sniffles and mucus start by section 3, then I start doubting myself in my thinking. Staying healthy and alert seems like huge things we can possibly be taken for granted.

In the PrepTest booklets (usually on page nine), there is a page titled "THE PREPTEST." This outlines the different sections, one through four, as well as the writing sample materials, and gives you the order in which to expect the two logical reasonings, reading comprehension, and the analytical reasoning.

On test day, is there a page like this at the front of the book that tells the order of all five sections, so you have an idea of what to expect, as well as which might be the experimental (based on whether there are 3 LR, 2 RC, or 2 LG)?

Thanks and good luck to everyone else taking the September test a week from today!

Hey-o from Hurricane Irma!

Gotta keep studying regardless so I've been working at it and for some reason Flaw questions have decided to crop up and be a problem. Anyone have some sure fire tips for them? I just did an LR section timed and got -7, with -3 being flaw (all of the flaws in the section may I add). -2 were questions I legit got wrong and the other -2 I reread the question and knew right away what I did wrong/read wrong. But -3 in flaw is a big deal.

Any tips and tricks for flaws? Favorite way to drill? Etc.

Help your favorite (or probably not favorite but i'm at peak level stress so I'm going to hope you guys like me at this point) hurricane pilgrim out!

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Hey folks. I've been averaging about 173/174 on the more recent PTs, but I've noticed that as I improve on the games and the LR, my reading comprehension scores have been dropping (from about -0/-2 per section to about -3/-5). I've almost exclusively been missing main point questions (?!) and author inference questions. Any tips as to what I ought to keep in mind as I tackle these specific question types? I'm so close to where I want to be on this test, and I'm grateful for the help.

Hello helpful 7sage community!

I've been having trouble improving my LG score to where I want it to be. So far I have fool-proofed over 40 games. I did everything game from preptest 62-71. I have a huge excel spreadsheet of timing, attempt #, quality ( I only allow myself to miss one question @ 7sage's suggested time before I consider it mastered.) My average on the sections is about -13. It's really holding me back. I am in a comfortable range with the rest of the sections and should be scoring around a 160, but due to the LG section I am around a 155. Any suggestions would be helpful.