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Sunday, Jan 28, 2018

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Hey guys

I took the LSAT in September and scored a 150, I studied quite vigorously all summer but unfortunately I was unable to balance summer school and a full course load in September. After the semester was over I picked my studying back up and am consistently scoring in the 156-159 area. I am writing a prep test every other day, and when not writing or reviewing I have decided to focus entirely on logic games. I can consistently score anywhere in the 17-21 range for RC and LR, but unfortunately I always bomb the LG section, timing being my biggest issue. I just bought the premium package today, but if anyone has any suggestions for where to allocate my study time from now until February tenth I would really appreciate it, I am aiming to score around the 162 area. Any advice helps!!!

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I am curious if anyone knows whether there is a way to request a switch of the PTs released with each upgrade? If I'm planning on eventually upgrading to Ultimate + after first upgrading to Ultimate, it would be much more beneficial to have the earlier PTs (released only in Ultimate +) first since I just finished the CC and would like to start fool proofing logic games 1-35.. The PTs gained from upgrading to Ultimate are pretty much useless until much later in preparation (after FPing and earlier PTs).

Is there someone we can email to request a "swap" of Ultimate and Ultimate +'s PTs?

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I had a short 4 month study period while working full time. Recently, I've done 70, 71, 72 and previous 60s and a few 40s.

What do you suggest as my final timed two PTs? I'm thinking a late 70's and maybe an 80-83. Any particular 70s or 80s?

During the week, I'll do various individual sections during the day. Which PTs would you recommend I use of those?

TIA

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Hello- I would really appreciate some advice!

Some background info:-

  • I'm a junior taking a course overload (GPA 3.88 that I plan to push up to 3.9), heavily involved in extracurriculars and athletics, and seriously considering taking an internship or two this spring, and one in summer semester (since I haven't done a single one yet, and I know law schools really value work experience.)
  • I just had a go at my first ever cold diagnostic test and scored a 157. I'm disappointed and stressed by it but optimistic.
  • I've decided to take the June LSAT (on the 23rd where I am), giving me 4 months excluding June to study.
  • I'm open to repeating it in September if need be, but I would prefer not to have to of course, especially since I plan to apply to schools as early as possible.
  • I'm aiming for a score of 172+, so a 15 point increase. I know it's a long shot, but I need it for where I plan to go, and especially to offset my lack of work experience (that I don't think I can realistically remedy much by admission time in early Fall.)
  • My questions:-

  • Given the severe time constraints and all my other commitments, what would a realistic study schedule look like? I would feel best putting in 5-6 hours a day, but I really doubt that's a realistic expectation. I really don't want to slack on my GPA etc. or lose so much sleep that I burn out, but at the same time, this is the only chance I get to... get into the law school that I want. Should I start with 4 hours a day for the first month and see how well I do? Is that unrealistic as well? How far do I have to stretch myself to comfortably get into the 170s?
  • Any input on what plan to go with? I think the ultimate+ would be a waste if I can't cover the material. I think I will start with the premium then upgrade as I go. Will that harm my scheduling? I've read that you only really need to do as many practice questions as you happen to need in any section, and to save the rest for drilling later. Is that a good approach?
  • I'd really, really appreciate any help! Thanks!

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    Hello- I would really appreciate some advice!

    Some background info:-

  • I'm a junior taking a course overload (GPA 3.88 that I plan to push up to 3.9), heavily involved in extracurriculars and athletics, and seriously considering taking an internship or two this spring, and one in summer semester (since I haven't done a single one yet, and I know law schools really value work experience.)
  • I just had a go at my first ever cold diagnostic test and scored a 157. I'm disappointed and stressed by it but optimistic.
  • I've decided to take the June LSAT (on the 23rd where I am), giving me 4 months excluding June to study.
  • I'm open to repeating it in September if need be, but I would prefer not to have to of course, especially since I plan to apply to schools as early as possible.
  • I'm aiming for a score of 172+, so a 15 point increase. I know it's a long shot, but I need it for where I plan to go, and especially to offset my lack of work experience (that I don't think I can realistically remedy much by admission time in early Fall.)
  • My questions:-

  • Given the severe time constraints and all my other commitments, what would a realistic study schedule look like? I would feel best putting in 5-6 hours a day, but I really doubt that's a realistic expectation. I really don't want to slack on my GPA etc. or lose so much sleep that I burn out, but at the same time, this is the only chance I get to... get into the law school that I want. Should I start with 4 hours a day for the first month and see how well I do? Is that unrealistic as well? How far do I have to stretch myself to comfortably get into the 170s?
  • Any input on what plan to go with? I think the ultimate+ would be a waste if I can't cover the material. I think I will start with the premium then upgrade as I go. Will that harm my scheduling? I've read that you only really need to do as many practice questions as you happen to need in any section, and to save the rest for drilling later. Is that a good approach?
  • I'd really, really appreciate any help! Thanks!

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    In full disclosure, I took PowerScore's course 3 years ago, though I didn't pay attention or complete assignments as I wasn't yet sold on law school. Two weeks ago I took PT 62 as a diagnostic (I had already taken June 2007), and scored a 163 (-5 rc, -4 lr, -8 lg, -9 lr).

    Today, after going through 7Sage for one week (only up through their basic logic core curriculum, so no games or rc or advanced lr), I decided to blind review my PT 62. Admittedly, I only went back and wrote down all questions I got wrong (not the answer I selected originally). Then I took that piece of paper with the section and numbers I had gotten wrong and redid the problems. I ended up with a 174 (-2 rc, -3 lr, -0 lg, -3 lr).

    If I continue to study hard (about 20 hours per week, ~20-25 full timed PTs), does it seem feasible that I could take the June LSAT and score a 169+? After this blind review, part of me wants to aim for scoring a 172+ on the LSAT, since I was able to understand the concepts in my quasi-blind review. It seems like I just need to work on solidifying concepts strongly so that I can work at a more diligent pace while doing PTs. Is that crazy out of reach? Thoughts? How do you manage expectations between blind review and timed tests?

    My feeling is that I would like to see my timed tests and blind review margin shrink over time (ideally with timed and br growing in score).

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    Hey guys! If you're taking the LSAT and your account is inconveniently set to expire a few days before the test date, just email me (dillon@7sage.com) and I'll extend your account for free through the February test. (Make sure you include your 7Sage email!)

    I can guarantee you that my inbox will fill up with these, so give me time to reply to them all. If your account expires by the time I get to your email, don't worry, I'll reactivate it for you. :)

    For those of you who are expiring after, good luck on the LSAT! We here at 7Sage are rooting for you.

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    Hi all,

    well, this question has been asked a million times, but I will ask it again...apologies.

    My goal is to get 165 +.

    Long story short I've been studying for almost a year now. Started Last March, more or less. My studying has been....a learning process. I started out quite erratically - I figured "oh, I have so much time!" and didn't put in that many hours (I also work full-time). I didn't buy a class or anything.

    After 3 months or so of doing a few hours a week with some old power score books that a friend gave me, I realized that it would be better to get a class. So I got the 7sage course (the most basic one). I worked my way through about 2/3 of the lessons. During this time, I was occasionally doing practice sets, but I was mostly focused on logic games but I would do one game at a time. I kind of jumped around and did not use the foolproof method. Please don't ask me why. I think I just wanted to rush through everything because I underestimated how difficult the LSAT is.

    In August I started to panic because I wanted to take the September LSAT, and I thought "oh my god I need to start doing full practice tests!" I took a few. This revealed that my score was still basically at the point where my diagnostic was (156).

    I decided to postpone the September exam until December. I finally understood that score had not changed since my diagnostic because I didn't apply myself enough and didn't take enough time to learn the fundamentals.

    I started learning the fundamentals. December arrived and I had done a few more practice tests- maybe 3/4 ( I only have time to do one a week) but my PT score had only climbed from a 156 to a 162.

    I decided to postpone again.

    Because I felt ridiculous, I did register for the February test. My mother, and my colleagues (I work at a law firm), were all saying that I should just take it. I figured that I absolutely needed to do the Feb 2018 exam because I had put it off so many times.

    Fast-forward to now, and my highest PT score has risen from a 162 to a 165. I have something like 2 weeks but I'm working the whole time (I can't get days off). And I'm freaking out.

    I want to score a 165 or higher. So...I'm almost there. It feels kind of ridiculous to put it off AGAIN... I'm close, so maybe, if I'm truly lucky, I will get that 165. But I think that that is not super likely. I assume my score will actually go down on test day, so it's probable that I'll get a 160, maybe lower (I score more consistently at 163 than 165).

    If I postpone I will have time to do more than the 10 total practice tests I've done. And my logic games (this is my worst section) are finally getting better since I've started with the fool-proof method. But I'm still getting 8-10 wrong consistently. I can't finish all 4 games, EVER. Maybe this will improve.

    This said, if I put it off, I have to deal with the stress of this dang test hanging over me for 6 more months - I fear that I've built this up so much that I'm just psyching myself out and looking for excuses to delay taking it. I fear that this psychological stress will get worse if I wait longer. I can always just take it in February (I've already paid) and take it again in June.

    It is also possible that I've hit a plateau. I started with a pretty good diagnostic, and after a year I've only gone up by 9 points (and I only got a 165 once). My logical reasoning has completely stagnated - I always get 3-4 wrong. My reading comprehension has improved, and my logic games are getting there, but I'm ASTOUNDINGLY bad at them so I fear I actually will never do better than I'm doing now.

    So. Do I put it off, given the possibility that another 6 months won't help much, and will just end up putting more pressure on me since I've delayed again?

    Or do I just take it, but take it knowing that I am extremely unlikely to get the score I want - basically guaranteeing that I will have to retake?

    Sorry for the wall of text.

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    I have been fool proofing for a few weeks now. The gains have been steady, and I am at the point where I can typically complete a game at least close to the target time while getting all the questions correct. Obviously, the goal is to finish below the target time with all questions correct every time, but I'm simply monitoring my progress. Last night I did the games section for PT 32 and scored a -9 in 35 minutes. Surprisingly, that's progress for me. I fool proofed each game by itself this morning, and will review the section again until i nail the thing with no problems.

    Today, a little frustrated with my performance from the night before, I decided to try another LG section from PT 10. (Might not be the smartest method, cramming 8 games in 2 days, idk) This time, I did each game by itself. If I skipped a question and went on to the next game, I would write the time down on my paper, restart my watch, then move on to the next game. By the end of it, I had 3 minutes do do the three questions I skipped. The entire section took me 36 minutes of actual work (it took me 4 minutes to finsih the last 3), and I only missed 1 question. So, in reality maybe I would have gotten -2, or even -3. But that is much better than -9... I understand variability in section difficulty can have an impact, perhaps I would have scored a little worse on an overall harder section. Despite this, it is obvious that I struggle with bearing the weight of having to do all 4 games in 35 minutes as opposed to 1 game in 8 minutes. When I do one game at a time, I feel like I am in control. When I try to do all 4, I feel like a rag doll that has strings pulling on it from all different directions.

    Is the hardest part bringing the sections together? I don't really know what to make of this. Should I try doing two games from a section, master that, then three from a section, master that, then do a full section?

    Any suggestions as to what I should try?

    (My goal is to have -2 on LG at most, preferably -1 or -0)

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    Hello,

    I just went to a pre-law advisor in order to have my essays and resume reviewed. I have done quite extensive research beforehand on how to write them and what to include. The, very nice guy, told me to delete half of my resumé and not to include things like interests, or Dean's list; while sipping coffee from a blue Cooley Law cup. I hoped he would give me some valuable advice, but I have a gut feeling not to follow most of his revisions.

    My question is: I only have one more person who can read my essays. Are any of you willing to read and help me proof read them?

    English is not my first language and I'm aware I make a lot of mistakes I can't catch myself.

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    I quickly went thru the CC last year over the summer before my senior year of undergrad and did an awful job at it. Didnt take it seriously, didn’t really take notes, skipped RC, skipped a lot of the beginning which I thought was unnecessary and basic like of course I know premise/conclusion.

    I stopped studying in November 2017 to take a “break” and never really went back to it.

    Now I’m really taking my time with it and realizing how many nuances there are in just identifying premise/conclusion.

    I think my diagnostic likely be similar to my first diagnostic and it will be discouraging and stressful. if there is any sort of benefit I’ll take it.

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    I've been studying since September and I've just hit a wall. I tried to do another PT today but I got so antsy that I couldn't focus, I lost like 10 minutes on one question because I was so out of it, and paced my room rigorously like a mad person. I know everyone says to take a break if you feel burnt out but this is 2 weeks before the LSAT and I'm worried I don't really have time to relax or take a break; I still have stuff to work on/drill and I need to get better with time constraints.

    What do you guys recommend doing when you have bad burnout this close to an exam?

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    Hey all I've been thinking of my application process and I wanted to make a post about what I believe is one of the most important factors concerning the acceptance to my top choice!

    I sent out my applications on January 2nd. I send an email to my top choice the next day requesting an interview. I did not hear back for over a week, but eventually the admissions office was happy to set up an interview for me that would take place later that week.

    During the interview, I was asked a host of questions concerning why law school, what do I want to do in law school, various aspects of my employment, aspects of my essays, and other "standard" interview questions. I think the greatest thing I took from my interview and the biggest piece of advice I can give someone is that ALWAYS ask for an interview whenever possible, especially to your top choices. I was able to talk about myself other than what was on my application, which without an interview is the be all end all for the admissions committee. There was a confusing aspect on my employment history that was necessarily the easiest the explain on my resume and I was asked about it and I was able to give a coherent answer concerning it.

    Another big takeaway from my interview is that I got to tell a specific story (I was asked a questions about leadership/working in a team) that I did not write about in any of my essays nor was readily apparent from the resume (nor could it have been since it was an isolated incident). My interviewer was thoroughly surprised a this answer and reacted very positively to it since she even told me she thought I was going to talk about something in one of my essays.

    So always ask for an interview whenever possible! I was accepted one week after my interview took place!

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    Hi everyone!

    I'm pretty much set on beginning my LSAT studying using 7sage - yay! I'm hoping to take the test in either September or November. However, work will be very busy for the next ~4 months, so I'll have less time to study during the first half of the year as compared to the second half of the year.

    How much time should be dedicated to each course option? (Does it even make sense for me to ask this question? I don't know how the courses work.) I know they allow for a "personalized schedule," but I imagine that a general amount of time should be dedicated to studying with course per week/month.

    Essentially, I'd like to figure out whether to save the 7Sage course for later this year when I'll have more capacity.

    Thank you kindly!

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