Hi! Before everyone tells me to retake.... I am :) I received my LSAT score last night and I got a 149. While this was a 10 point increase from my diagnostic and I should be excited about that, we all know that this isn't going to get me into a T2 or T1 school. While a T1 school would be AMAZING, I am totally okay with going to a T2 school especially the ones in my region. That being said a score in the high 150's - low 160's would be ideal. When I was PTing, I was in this range which is why my score is sort of a surprise. Funny enough, I am not depressed nor have I even cried because I KNEW that damn 1st LR really fucked my day up. I increased dramatically on timing but I think now my issue is accuracy (where before it was the opposite).

Anyways, I need help trying to put together a study schedule, who to ask to help tutor me ( & do you accept credit cards @"Cant Get Right" ), if I should totally scratch 7sage and do an in-class program? I have a 3.65 GPA, a URM, extensive work experience, and hopefully a good personal statement (if anyone wants to read it). I have signed up for December so let's get to it!

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Congratulations! You have completed and survived a fully time and administered LSAT. Regardless of score this is a huge feat!

For those that achieved their goal score or better, an extra congrats to you! Your hard work and dedication payed off! You earned your score be proud!

For the rest of us, well don't let it get you down. We have to get back up and start working hard again. Our goals are attainable, we just need to keep on working to get there. Let those who succeed motivate you to keep working toward success! We need to trust in the method and really put our all into the test.

Do not beat yourself up, or let it define you. Just because you failed once doesn't mean you will have the same outcome again. Get back up and keep on running!

Hi everyone!! I wrote my Sept 2017 LSAT a month ago and before that I was scoring consistently in the high 160's to the early 170's on all my prep tests. I got my LSAT score today and scored a 158. I am genuinely confused and I don't know what went wrong. I get bad test day anxiety and I have never even scored lower than 163 even when I had just started pt-ing.

I wrote the June 2017 LSAT as well and had really bad anxiety and got 160.

I don't know what I can do for December. My fundamentals are pretty solid considering I was hitting 170's even on very recent prep tests.

I am concerned as well that I did worse on the second time round and what law schools will think when they see that. Any advice on that?

I know that I can do well on the LSAT but I don't know what happens on test date and how to overcome that anxiety that gets me a score that is not representative of my abilities. Do I have enough time to make enough of a difference before December?

It seems that after each LSAT exam, companies like Powerscore and others recap the exam, and discuss the amount and difficulty of questions. Is this helpful to us? IE, does the degree of difficulty of one exam predict the degree of difficulty of the following exam?

Hi there! So I just took the September test and received my score which ended up being even lower than all my PTs. I self-studied with the powerscore books and took dozens of PTs, felt pretty prepared. I also studied with 7sage's free video explanations which helped A LOT! I'm thinking I just need to dig a little deeper. Looking to up my score 6-8 points. I'm looking towards the starter because it's cheaper and I can actually afford that, unlike the others. Would I be fine doing the Starter or should I just look somewhere else at another course?

Like many (hopefully not too many!) others on here, I am disappointed with my September score and am retaking. A really rough reading comp section was the only thing keeping me from my target score, so I'm planning on drilling this shit into the ground. Any and all suggestions are appreciated.

So I got my score, and although I'm not sad about it, I'm not jumping for joy. My dream school is Northwestern, and my score is one point below the median. I know this doesn't put me in a great place (GPA is 3.6). I also know that it looks like I'm the perfect example of someone who should retake.

However, I put my heart and soul into this last exam. I was PTing in the 170s (took a proctored June 2017 LSAT as a PT and got a 170). I feel like I would be taking the December test for a chance I get lucky because I don't think I can improve my LSAT capabilities. Also, work will really be ramping up for me in the next couple weeks.

Any advice? My main concern is that I know the earlier you apply, the better your chances, but how much should that factor into your decision?

Anyone applying to H/Y/ and/or S who wants to do a personal statement swap? Mine is (broadly) related to wanting to do social movement lawyering.

So I posted a couple days ago about LSAC miscalculating my GPA on the Academic Summary Report; they treated eight hours of high school test credit as a C. They fixed it today, but I'm posting this to remind people to verify their grades. I know LSAC has their own way of calculating GPA, but this was pretty blatant and took my overall GPA down by 0.10

Good luck all!

I got a 167 on the september test, and I am happy with it but i was hoping for a 170+

Cornell is my dream school, so i was hoping to get peoples' opinions here and see if i should take one more shot at the test?

hope everyone who took the test performed as they wished!!

I just got back my third LSAT score and was crushed - a full 10 points lower than my practice tests where I was consistently getting around a 171, and 2 points lower than my last test (163). I've been studying for over a year at this point so I think its time to move on and just apply already.

My question is: is there any way to spin these scores as a positive in an addendum? I want to believe the admissions officers will see my three scores over a year and a half span and see perseverance. And if they were to look at my section scores, if you put all my best ones together I would have gotten around a 174. Would it come off badly to highlight these facts?

Thanks for the advice!!

I took my first LSAT this September and just got my score back. I now have to study for the December one but I'm lost in where to start. I took almost all of the PTs from 36-80 but haven't finished the Core Curriculum. So I plan on finishing the CC but I'm not sure if I should be taking a PT every week from now on (but I took most of the PTs so I feel like my score will severely inflated) or...

I would sincerely appreciate your advice on how you all studied or plan to study for your second time around!

Hey guys so like many of you guys I'm not so happy about my test score (just when I thought reading comp and I were getting along). It was my first time writing the test and the experience was great because it really isn't as monstrous of a day as we make it out to be. However - I did score way below my avg test score. I was studying using PowerScore material, I had taken the course in the summer of 2015 - although I did look or practice the material until this summer when I started studying.

I have not purchased anything from 7Sage. I used my PS course books and homework sections, following a course schedule. It was fairly expensive to take the course and I'm not a big fan of throwing money at the LSAT regime. But - I am not impressed with my score at all, so I'm wondering whether you guys think it might be worth it to get some 7Sage stuff or whether I should hit the PS books again - I'll begin studying tomorrow till Dec 2 on for retest. Would really appreciate some wholesome advice.

I took the September 2017 LSAT and unfortunately didn't perform up to my potential. For various reasons, my undergraduate career thus far has been hectic and extremely time consuming. To be on the path of graduating in the normal time-slot of four years, I took five classes in a seven week summer semester and tried studying for the LSAT at the same time. Realizing my enormous mistake, I decided not to take the June LSAT, took the September LSAT, and didn't do as well as I should have. Given my extenuating circumstances and how I want to graduate undergrad this April, I am in a full course load right now and will be in the winter as well. My desire to go to a top law school is strong and I will study as efficiently as possible for an exemplary test score. That being said, I would love some feedback on how efficient the LSAT premium 7sage course is and if it will more than likely help me in achieving a higher score. A 20 point increase on the February 2017 LSAT would be great in my case, as I plan to be in an entering law school class of 2018. Any thoughts, experiences, and opinions would be awesome.

Hey everyone,

Hope Grey day went well for you all. I got a 165 which I am a bit disappointed in seeing as though my average is right around a 170 with ~11 PT's taken. I went -9 LR, -1 LG, and -8 RC. I have a 3.95 GPA but I'm pretty sure I'm going to need a better LSAT score to get into a T-14 school (tell me if I'm wrong there).

My plan is to take a PT every week and switch to every other week if it gets to be too much. I'm planning on continuing my fool proofing of each game for each PT that I take. This, combined with in depth BR for the LR and RC sections will hopefully be enough for me to crack into the 170's come December.

Let me know what you think of my situation and of my plan for the upcoming months. Any suggestions are really appreciated!

Hi there! My GPA is 3.58 and my Sept. 2017 score is 167. I wanted to submit my application earlier than December, but it seems that my chances for UCLA and USC are below 50% with these numbers (and probably $0 scholarship if I did get in). I have 8 years of work experience in the legal field. Should I start studying again? Thanks!!

My September score is leaving me in purgatory.

I got a 170 and I have a 3.57 GPA. I want to apply ED to UChicago (I know, it's a reach) while applying to Michigan, Duke, Virginia, Penn, Northwestern, and Cornell.

Looking on Law School Numbers, even a 175 (my PT average) in December wouldn't do much for my application chances anywhere, and would marginally help with scholarship money. My thoughts are if Chicago were going to reject me, seeing that I'm taking in December would at least get me waitlisted.

I'm in the middle of a gap year and I burnt myself out going into the September test, and I don't want to go through it again.

What should I do?

any advice?

I've been studying off and on for a month and am on the fence about sitting for December. I took my first test prep a couple weeks ago and scored a 156. I'll have the Ultimate Package kick in for 15 months soon and could really see it being beneficial to hone in on some of the drills that were previously locked. I also purchased the LSAT Trainer and have yet to go through that.

But I'm also not currently working until the December test date, so I don't know if it's worth giving it a shot in this concentrated amount of time and if it'd be possible to improve 5-9 points within 6ish weeks with no other responsibilities. I'm teaching English abroad under a Fulbright for ten months starting in January, and my host country doesn't offer the February date. I was also an accounting major and am done with 1/4 cpa exams with a retake coming up on the 20th. So I've been torn about whether to go all in on the LSAT or to look to take a 3rd section test before I leave. Any advice/guidance from my fellow 7Sagers would be greatly appreciated.

My target schools would be USC, UCLA, Arizona State, or Northwestern if I could possibly possibly bump my scores up. I had a 3.98 GPA and some solid EC's, but I haven't been in test-taking mode in quite some time. So not sure what I should realistically set my target scores for.

Just got my scores and I was looking on the LSAC website regarding each schools 25-75% and was curious as to what a splitter is? lets say your LSAT is in the 25% but your GPA is in the 75% does that make you a splitter ?

Hey guys,

So I wanted some feedback on my study plan leading up to the December test. I have finished the CC and am working to fool proof the LG games in the CC. I have also started drilling down different question types. My strongest section is between LR and LG, while my worst section is RC.

I plan on studying for 30-40 hours a week, hence this is what I aim to do (keeping in mind that I am currently not working or going to school, however I do volunteer 15-20 hours a week):

For the month of October:

Daily: 4 LG games using fool proof method

Drill 2 different question types of LR

2 RC Passages? (not sure how to tackle this section, worst section by far, HELP!)

I plan to really focus on getting the strategy down for each section and most importantly getting questions CORRECT in October.

Weekly:

1 PT every weekend.

For the month of November:

Daily: Timed LR Section, Timed LG Section, Timed LR Section

2(min)-3(max) PTs a week while also doing timed sections in between with BR.

I plan to really focus on timing and stamina for the month of November.

What do you guys think?

Is this study plan reasonable? My target score is 165+, currently scoring 157. Any suggestions are welcome!

Thank you in advance!

I just got my score and I decided to take the December test. I started off last year with a Cold diagnostic of 128 and now I ended up 6 points below the median for the law school I want to go to (152). Right now I feel discouraged, and talking to other people like friends and family isn’t helping since they don’t know the struggle of this test and how to relate. So now I'm signing up for December and I need advice on how to approach this test with a smart study plan. I still have to finish the CC with reading comp, but other than that any advice or general or specific would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,

How does one's political views affect one's chances at admission, especially to elite schools which tend to lean left? I wouldn't say I'm a liberal, by today's standards of what constitutes left at least; if one defines "liberal" as "one who values liberty", then yes I am a liberal. However, I try to understand both sides of the political spectrum without being wedded to any particular ideology. By no means am I what many have called the "alt-right", however, there are some views that they hold that I am sympathetic towards; in particular, I believe that it is necessity to guard the freedom of speech. There are, of course, reasons for me to be sympathetic towards this idea: language evolves. To legislate on what constitutes "appropriate" speech is to attempt to directly and consciously control the evolution of language. If I were to reject this notion, I would have to reject the liberal value of liberty, which is distinct from license. Thus, to remain a liberal, it seems that I must defend, what is now considered to be, a conservative ideal.

In short, I am a centrist. But it seems that being a centrist, especially in this politically charged climate, would hurt my chances. Am I correct in being concerned?

I was panicking the whole day waiting for my score only to find out that my score release is on hold bc of a fee waiver I applied for law school apps. I’m so frustrated...has anyone else experienced this?

I just wanted my score and move on with life.