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When you have Group 3 and 4 together.Hi guys, When you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do you use? e.g. the group 3 …
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could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... both a group 3 and group 4 indicator.
The 7Sage group 3 indicators require ... both group 3 and group 4 indicators treat the group 3 indicator as group 2 and the group 4 ... indicator as group 1 ... -
Conditional Statements with Both Group 3 and 4 IndicatorsHey all. I'm just wondering how most people deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that one can use either rule and…
... deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that ... sense to use the Group 3 rule, and was wondering if there ... just sticking with using the Group 3 rule at all times ... ."
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Sufficient and Necessary Conditions Group 3 and 4Okay, Im having so much trouble trying to fund out what goes into the sufficient or the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel l…
... the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel like I ... -
Group 3 and 4 plus Group 1Hey everyone... I'm only about a quarter of the way through the curriculum, so perhaps this is discussed later in the courses, but after being con…
... being confused with how group 3 and 4 interact, I sought ... following example which combines group 1 and group 3, based on the ... was:
All: group 1, sufficient
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"Or" and Group 3 Insights for Internalization of Concepts?I still haven’t quite internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a fundamental understanding on why sufficient/necessary are the way they ar…
... internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a fundamental ... the way they are in group 3. Does anyone have some insight ... -
"Unless" in Loophole vs. Group 3 in 7SageI'm going through the Loophole in Logical Reasoning book now and there are several pages dedicated to the indicator "unless." _Loophole_ specifies th…
... in Logical Reasoning book now and there are several pages ... "unless" the necessary condition, and the sufficient condition is "the ... would call "either/or") with Group 3 and says you just have to ... , make it the sufficient condition, and negate it.
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Translation Rule Group 3 & 4-NegationHi All! Quick question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I need to pick either idea, then negate that idea e…
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How do you diagram a conditional that has a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator?Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B" Cannot = group 4 (negate, necessary) Without = group 3 (negate, sufficient)
Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B"
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The use of "unless" Group 3 and "cannot" Group 4 combined translation in a Sequencing LGHey y'all just in a bit of a rut and need some clarification from my 7Sage peeps. When the term "unless" is used in a logic game rule with other grou…
... bit of a rut and need some clarification from ... via the group 4 "not" or "cannot" group in the ... down who gets negated and ends up in the ... I took PT 87 Game # 3 (Double layer Sequencing)
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When "or" means "and" does it belong to Group 3?Hi all! My understanding is the following: 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3 2. “not both” gives you group 4. 3. “either or but not bot…
... /> 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3
2. “not both” ... gives you group 4.
3. “either or but not ... bi-conditional group.
However, when "or" means "and" in ... a sentence, do we follow Group 3 rules? How ... -
Quiz on Group 3 Translations- Question 9Hello, How did you guys translate question 9 in the quiz to lawgic? I read the sentence like this "without a will testifying the transferal (WTT…
... are "will testifying transferal (WTT)" and "California has no choice (/CC ... ://7sage.com/lesson/quiz-on-group-3-translations-to-lawgic/ -
Group 3 Logical Indicators problemsJust started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicato…
Just started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm ... ). With Group 3 Indicators, you pick an idea, negate it and make it ... 'm going through the flashcards, and when I'm applying the ... -
Group 3 Indicator ConfusionHi everyone. I'm having trouble following the rules to translate a sentence with a group 3 indicator. The lesson states that it doesn't matter which …
... translate a sentence with a group 3 indicator. The lesson states that ... one of the terms, and then create the counter-positive ... counter positives: **HW --> R** and **/HW --> /R** (If there ... counter positives: **R --> HW** and **/R -- /HW** (If there is ... -
Group 3 negate sufficient questionI am doing the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming up with the contrapositive first. Example: There is no punishment witho…
... flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming up with ... group 3 operator is without I picked “law” made it the sufficient and ... like this: /L -> /P. and then my contrapositive is P ... -
how to handle group 3 indicators + existential quantifiers i.e. PT 33.3.8 most people invest withouthttps://7sage.com/lesson/invest-in-the-stock-market-mbt-question/?ss_completed_lesson=1089 most people invest without doing any research of their …
... be negated since it's group 3.
How do you ... refer to the sufficient condition and the other idea has to ... the AC was really obvious and it was an easy Q ... -
Question regarding with basic translation group 1 and group 2GROUP 1: IF, WHEN, WHERE, ALL, THE ONLY, EVERY, ANY, WHENEVER, ANYONE & GROUP 2: ONLY, ONLY IF, ONLY WHEN, ONLY WHERE, ALWAYS, REQUIRES, MUST (Group …
... EVERY, ANY, WHENEVER, ANYONE & GROUP 2: ONLY, ONLY IF, ONLY ... REQUIRES, MUST (Group 1 indicators follows with sufficiency and group 2 indicators follows ... of these indicators from group 1 and 2 in order to ... , "the only" is from group 1, while "only, only ... -
having NOT and UNLESS in the same sentenceHey Guys, I always get confused when we have a group 3 and 4 word. For instance, PT 69, part 4, question 21, answer choice D. So, we have /pub…
... confused when we have a group 3 and 4 word. For instance ... So, we have /published AND important and well written (The published ... make published positive and keep important and well written. So ... if published----> is important and well written.
If you see two Group 4 Logical Indicators in one sentenceHey guys, can someone please advise - If you see two group 4 logical indicators in one sentence - do you pick one idea and negate necessary? Doe…
... If you see two group 4 logical indicators in one ... - do you pick one idea and negate necessary?
group 3 and group 4 indicators in one ... - If you cannot (cannot- group 4) swim you are not ... (not - group 4) a Koala Bear- < ..."Except" is biconditional, but why not just Group 3?I do not understand why 7Sage teaches "except" as a biconditional. It makes more sense to me to see it as a simple Group 3, where you just negate the…
... see it as a simple Group 3, where you just negate the ...Going -3 and -4 per LR section untimedHi guys, I recently noticed that I continue to go -3 and -4 on each LR section either untimed or timed and BR'ed. These questions tend to be 4 and…
... I continue to go -3 and -4 on each LR ... either untimed or timed and BR'ed. These questions ... the question stem, stimulus, and answer choices. I noticed that ... made improvements (went -5 and -6 per each LR section ... I am still getting -3 and -4 wrong on each LR ...PT30.S3.P3: Meyerson and CLS, Paragraphs 3 and 4Hi, could someone who understands this passage thoroughly translate paragraphs 3 and 4 with me? JY's explanation video for this passage zoomed throug…
... this passage thoroughly translate paragraphs 3 and 4 with me? JY ... through the last paragraph and I was still left ... s critique of CLS and Paragraph 3 gets at one of ... be random or irrational and I get that she ... help?
And for the last paragraph, is ...Sufficient & Necessary ConditionsHi everyone, I'm currently reviewing PT 37 that I completed yesterday and I'm on section 2 #12. Even watching JY's video, I'm still a little confu…
... 37 that I completed yesterday and I'm on section 2 ... little confused about the "cannot" and "without" in the stimulus. Anyway ... the "without" for being in group 3? And we're just treating it ... in, that'd be great. And if you can further explain ...PT18.S2.Q23 - teachers are effective only whenhttp://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-23/ I'm having trouble translating the "not until" statement. Until is "negate suffici…
... me to go ahead and memorize that when group 3 and 4 indicators are ... sentence they cancel each other and it reads like an if ...I feel like it's all starting to crumble!Hey, guys! Has anyone ever felt like everything is starting to crumble for them? LG has always been my best section but now I can go -6! I get life a…
... go -6! I get life and all that but OMG! I ... this for far too long and it's time to pull ... . I was doing LG yesterday and actually had to go back ... to clarify a rule using group 3 and 4 indicators, smh. Thats 101 ... ! I know we have highs and lows but this is crazy ...Help me with only when sentenceSo I kinda make up my own rules One rule that worked for me and saves me a lot of the time was Not .... without/until sentence When…
... rule that worked for me and saves me a lot of ... sentences I automatically remove not and make whatever condition that follows ... condition. It conforms to the group 3 and group 4 rule so nothing new ... a certain verb follows only and then when pops up ( ...Kaplan vs 7sage logical indicators approachI started this LSAT journey with a quick pass through of the Kaplan logical reasoning approach and, honestly, there were still some pretty gaping hol…
... memorization of those four groups and the translation strategy. This ... for me to translate the group 3 and 4 words so mechanically. < ... contains a negative, so a group 4 word. In that case ... wondering about translating in groups 3 and 4. Has anyone else found ...Posting on Behalf of a 7Sage User: 4 Groups Mixed Translations Flashcards**[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]** "From 4 Groups Mixed Transla…
... been stuck on two problems and I think it comes from ... lack of understanding of how Group 3 and Group 4 work.
Not ... both /S and O is /S -> /O ...Can someone help me understand this logic?"Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help, there will be no road trip next week." From the lesson, https://7sage.co…
... rules of mixing group 3 and group 4 conditional indicators. And in this ... understand as we are using group 3 logic, negate sufficient. ... we have two group 3 indicators and one group 4 indicator. What ... side we have a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator ...Lesson 28 of 40 Introduction to logic , @ 2 minutes 28 sec to 2 minutes 34 secWhen JY is explaining not ( group 4 Logical operator) he does not apply the not to the come home idea. i understand its function as a logical operato…
... specifically breaking down when both group 3 and group 4 logical indicators appear ... uses "until" as the group 3 indicator and "not" as the negation ... uses "not" as the group 4 indicator and "until" as the ... until" as the logical indicator and use "not" as the ...
