Don't get discouraged seeing everyone else say" 5/5", "easy"or other bs, just keep grinding and learnthese indicator words. You will be fine. I was where you all were and it slowly starts to click.
I just commented on the last skill builder about something not clicking and then all the sudden for this one it did in fact click and went 5/5. Lets flipping go
@BenjaminMcDaniel Same with me. What helped was going back and MAKING sure I knew why for each question I was wrong or right ... and then it all got faster
After two months of trying to understand the way these LSAT questions were worded, I finally get the hang of it!! I should have subscribed to this course sooner :')
I'm an advanced student just reviewing the core curriculum. Apparently, I've been misrepresenting what "ALWAYS" means the entire time I've studied. I thought it was a sufficient condition indicator, turns out it's a necessary condition indicator.
Always = necessary
(whatever follows "always" is the necessary condition)
Anyone having issues here with the "only" examples causing the result to flip, just break it down into what is "causing" something to be the case. Remember if -> then.
For example -
In Aristotle's view, universals exist only where they are instantiated.
Means
If there is a universal THEN there MUST be a universal which is instantiated.
U -> I or If U then I
Let's try without the ONLY.
In Aristotle's view, universals exist where they are instantiated.
Now it means -
If there is an instantiated universal, THEN there is an existing universal.
I -> U or if I then U. It "flips" because now we are saying everywhere there is an existing there is an instantiated. No exceptions. We do not know in the first example if I -> U because there could be many other ways to get to instantiated. The second one does not allow for exceptions like the first, at least strictly logically speaking.
5/5, it's all starting to click now! I just needed to keep practicing and drawing examples.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!
For anyone stuck on these:
Write out all the indicator words and place them in a necessary and sufficient column.
Draw out the circles for necessary and sufficient.
Enjoy.
I was having trouble especially with the questions, but once I drew them out, I understood it completely. Now I can visualize these problems in my head.
Keep drawing each problem out and placing the necessary and sufficient conditions in each circle.
So I got 5/5 here versus 2/5 in the previous skill builder and I basically did it by thinking about these statements in terms of whatever is stronger = Necessary Condition and whatever is weaker = Sufficient Condition but is this an incorrect way to think about this? I don't want to start doing this all the time when it might lead me down the wrong path of Lawgic. Is this a correct way to consider sufficient --> necessary arguments or am I just making life more difficult for myself?
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5/5!! Feeling good!
my ex said they got Chlamydiae from a tractor seat. which must mean that Chlamydiae host cells can grow on tractor seats. curious!
@jdubdtrey oh!
Random STD example caught me off guard. Haven't been that surprised since I got Chlamydia back in 2002. (I'm jk)
5/5!! Woo
Don't get discouraged seeing everyone else say" 5/5", "easy"or other bs, just keep grinding and learnthese indicator words. You will be fine. I was where you all were and it slowly starts to click.
After having a breakdown last night, it's finally starting to make sense!
First 5/5 - stick with it guys!!!
I just commented on the last skill builder about something not clicking and then all the sudden for this one it did in fact click and went 5/5. Lets flipping go
@BenjaminMcDaniel Same with me. What helped was going back and MAKING sure I knew why for each question I was wrong or right ... and then it all got faster
was this one way easier than the last ones or did we just get better?
@yam That's a great sign! Keep at it wherever you are at now :D
I always get 5/5 on these and the real LSAT questions I don't..
@MorganSmith LMAO FR FR
I had my brain-blast moment during this one. Easy-peasy 5/5 compared to my struggles in the prior ones!!
After two months of trying to understand the way these LSAT questions were worded, I finally get the hang of it!! I should have subscribed to this course sooner :')
I'm an advanced student just reviewing the core curriculum. Apparently, I've been misrepresenting what "ALWAYS" means the entire time I've studied. I thought it was a sufficient condition indicator, turns out it's a necessary condition indicator.
Always = necessary
(whatever follows "always" is the necessary condition)
Anyone having issues here with the "only" examples causing the result to flip, just break it down into what is "causing" something to be the case. Remember if -> then.
For example -
In Aristotle's view, universals exist only where they are instantiated.
Means
If there is a universal THEN there MUST be a universal which is instantiated.
U -> I or If U then I
Let's try without the ONLY.
In Aristotle's view, universals exist where they are instantiated.
Now it means -
If there is an instantiated universal, THEN there is an existing universal.
I -> U or if I then U. It "flips" because now we are saying everywhere there is an existing there is an instantiated. No exceptions. We do not know in the first example if I -> U because there could be many other ways to get to instantiated. The second one does not allow for exceptions like the first, at least strictly logically speaking.
Is this correct? #help
Sufficient: Enough to guarantee the outcome (Triggers it)
Necessary: Required for the outcome, but doesn’t guarantee it (Must be present)
Yup exactly!
AHHHH 5/5! LETS GOOOOOO!
5/5 on a topic I greatly struggled with when previously attempting to study, so psyched!!!
I made flash cards to help memorize group 1-4 conditional indicators, thought I’d share in case it would be helpful to anyone else. I’m redoing this course after getting through most of it and taking the lsat and not doing as well as I hoped. Looking back I realize how important it is to know these. https://quizlet.com/1153975729/lsat-7sage-conditional-indicators-to-share-flash-cards/?i=71yhg9&x=1jqY
@Elideebeep thanks queen. saved me some energy
@GordonGianadda sure thing!!
@Elideebeep Thank you !
@EdPena you got it!
5/5, it's all starting to click now! I just needed to keep practicing and drawing examples.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!
For anyone stuck on these:
Write out all the indicator words and place them in a necessary and sufficient column.
Draw out the circles for necessary and sufficient.
Enjoy.
I was having trouble especially with the questions, but once I drew them out, I understood it completely. Now I can visualize these problems in my head.
Keep drawing each problem out and placing the necessary and sufficient conditions in each circle.
You will thank me later.
Dear me an hour ago, please don't freak out. It starts to make sense.
finally a 5/5 YAYY
Chat I get it!!
So I got 5/5 here versus 2/5 in the previous skill builder and I basically did it by thinking about these statements in terms of whatever is stronger = Necessary Condition and whatever is weaker = Sufficient Condition but is this an incorrect way to think about this? I don't want to start doing this all the time when it might lead me down the wrong path of Lawgic. Is this a correct way to consider sufficient --> necessary arguments or am I just making life more difficult for myself?
5/5 LETS GO. These make sense once you start recognizing the words. BUT I still dont get the logic behind why the words are working??
starting to feel better about these questions!