@JessM really like this person's explanation so just going to paste it here:
C is wrong because it doesn’t matter if they consume the same amount of fat as people who did not decrease red meat. If you think about it, if both groups consume the same amount of “other fat” then one group consumes less fat through red meat, they will actually have a total lower amount of fat consumed.
For example:
Group 1: 50g fat + 10g fat (red meat) = 60g
Group 2: 50g fat + 0g fat (red meat) = 50g
So this doesn’t explain why group 2 would have more but instead would support the first part. Therefore, answer C doesn’t explain why group 2 would actually have more fat consumed.
i narrowed down to C and D. I was about to chose C, but it said "as much of other foods that are high in fat as ...(the other ppl who are trying to reduce)" i read that as their equal in fat consumption. Too wordy and too extra. D let's us know that the people who are trying to reduce turned around and binge ate everything that was not meat. Leading to excess fat compared to ppl who kept it chill with the red meat only.
Can someone explain to me why D isn't the 'perfect' answer? It really seems like the word 'replace' here is doing the work to show that it is not something that applies to those who have not cut out red meat. I feel that its fair to hold all else constant (general dietary trends being similar among both groups) and say that the fact that they are REPLACING the red meat that they are cutting out (that the other group is still eating, and thus NOT changed here) with cheese and baked goods. Its not like it says 'cheese consumption has gone up in this group.' Its simply that the act of cutting out red meat TENDS to make you eat more fat than those who do not.
@dreph25 It's not perfect, in my opinion, because it doesn't say how much richer in fat the cheese and baked goods are than the steak. If they're only 5% richer, I don't know if that could explain the "substantial" increase in dietary fat. Also, we don't know how much cheese and baked good they're eating to replace the red meat with. So while the cheese and baked goods may be richer in fat, perhaps they're eating a smaller amount compared to the amount of red meat they were consuming. Those are two possible ways that D may not resolve the phenomenon. However, D provides pretty significant support, especially compared to the other options.
@dreph25 it's because we have to assume that the other group of people didn't also change their diet and eat more cheese and baked goods or add that into their diet. I feel like the written explanation does a really good job of addressing this!
This section is by far my worst section to date. I absolutely despise these RRE question types. I am simply not getting the right answers. I come so close then I fail and I am losing hope. I just do not know what to do at this point. I feel hopeless....
I think we all have those sections! Don't be too discouraged -- if you can do well in other sections then you will be well on your way to a great score! Plus, recognizing what you have to work on is half the battle and you are already there! You got this :)
AAAH! I had it right the first time but thought C and D were basically the same answer, so I chose B. I didn't recognize C said that both groups consumed the same amount of fat while D actually answered the discrepancy.
so judging by the last two questions we are just supposed to guess things that aren't mentioned by the actual sentence? nowhere does it say anything about cheese or baked goods. This again, is unsubstantiated hypothesis and I am confused why it is correct.
RRE is different than the previous types of questions! Think of it more as trying to come up with an explanation for the discrepancy. It doesn't have to be in the stimulus as long as it explains it correctly.
@mister_jedi it acknowledges this in the question - "which of the following, IF TRUE, most helps to resolve the discrepancy". You have to assume all the answers are true when evaluating which one fits
I would concur and add that D says that more fat was consumed because people who reduced red meat consumption simply compensated that by eating other foods while those who didn't reduce red-meat did not consume other stuff.
Whereas C simply says that both groups eat foods high with fat. Which doesn't really help to explain the difference.
I guess that I am not understanding how the outside assumptions like in this question bringing in cheese and baked goods is the right answer? The stimulus mentions nothing about It so I am getting confused.
It's because the excess fat consumption must come from somewhere for those who have reduced red meat consumption. If those same people are shown to eat something richer in fat than red meat, that would explain it.
I agree, its not so much about the cheese and baked goods. The point is that they replaced the red meat with something that contains more fat. C states that their fat consumption is about the same. C would be correct if it stated that they consumed more fat than the people who stopped eating red meat. This is what D is stating, which is the distinction.
For me, C had a lot of grammar to parse through. Only after JY explaining did I understand what C said. Between C and D, I chose D in the interest of time
I almost got hung up on this one. I pretty quickly realized that this answer states the people consume as much fatty foods. The stimulus said that the people who reduced red meat intake consume substantially more fat. It is an assumption that i was making, but it turned out correct.
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to the ppl saying they chose D just because it was more specific, PLS KNOW that it's not because of the specificity.
it's because C says "as much." meaning, they're eating just as much fat as normal red-meat eaters, which contradicts the stimulus.
Answer choice D says they consume MORE fat, which is why it actually resolves the stimulus' discrepancy. yas!
Can someone please further explain why C was wrong? Was it just not specific enough?
@JessM really like this person's explanation so just going to paste it here:
C is wrong because it doesn’t matter if they consume the same amount of fat as people who did not decrease red meat. If you think about it, if both groups consume the same amount of “other fat” then one group consumes less fat through red meat, they will actually have a total lower amount of fat consumed.
For example:
Group 1: 50g fat + 10g fat (red meat) = 60g
Group 2: 50g fat + 0g fat (red meat) = 50g
So this doesn’t explain why group 2 would have more but instead would support the first part. Therefore, answer C doesn’t explain why group 2 would actually have more fat consumed.
@ps939 This is helpful, thank you!
The first question I got right on an RRE question type.....there indeed is light at the end of the tunnel.
im ngl i have not got one of these right
ugh I went with c because I felt d was suspiciously specific
@mitch.s same
Naurrrrrr you're joking
@jaffri i love ur profile pic
@DanyelleTripp-Lumley haha thank youuu aren't they just the cutest?!
yeah if i didn't get this right my wall might've had a new hole. Thank god.
i was between c and d but i chose d since it provided examples of foods and c was just vague
@ggasca21 that's exact reason i selected c, thought d was too specific
whenever i get a question right i feel like the GIF of Tina from bobs burgers doing the body roll.
FINALLY! I got my first question CORRECT!
i narrowed down to C and D. I was about to chose C, but it said "as much of other foods that are high in fat as ...(the other ppl who are trying to reduce)" i read that as their equal in fat consumption. Too wordy and too extra. D let's us know that the people who are trying to reduce turned around and binge ate everything that was not meat. Leading to excess fat compared to ppl who kept it chill with the red meat only.
I am still a bit confuse with these type of questions. I am treating it like MC questions
@CynthiaPierre002 they're also known as paradox questions. just think of it as -- how do I solve this mystery that the stim is asking
Can someone explain to me why D isn't the 'perfect' answer? It really seems like the word 'replace' here is doing the work to show that it is not something that applies to those who have not cut out red meat. I feel that its fair to hold all else constant (general dietary trends being similar among both groups) and say that the fact that they are REPLACING the red meat that they are cutting out (that the other group is still eating, and thus NOT changed here) with cheese and baked goods. Its not like it says 'cheese consumption has gone up in this group.' Its simply that the act of cutting out red meat TENDS to make you eat more fat than those who do not.
@dreph25 It's not perfect, in my opinion, because it doesn't say how much richer in fat the cheese and baked goods are than the steak. If they're only 5% richer, I don't know if that could explain the "substantial" increase in dietary fat. Also, we don't know how much cheese and baked good they're eating to replace the red meat with. So while the cheese and baked goods may be richer in fat, perhaps they're eating a smaller amount compared to the amount of red meat they were consuming. Those are two possible ways that D may not resolve the phenomenon. However, D provides pretty significant support, especially compared to the other options.
@dreph25 it's because we have to assume that the other group of people didn't also change their diet and eat more cheese and baked goods or add that into their diet. I feel like the written explanation does a really good job of addressing this!
This section is by far my worst section to date. I absolutely despise these RRE question types. I am simply not getting the right answers. I come so close then I fail and I am losing hope. I just do not know what to do at this point. I feel hopeless....
I think we all have those sections! Don't be too discouraged -- if you can do well in other sections then you will be well on your way to a great score! Plus, recognizing what you have to work on is half the battle and you are already there! You got this :)
AAAH! I had it right the first time but thought C and D were basically the same answer, so I chose B. I didn't recognize C said that both groups consumed the same amount of fat while D actually answered the discrepancy.
He needs to stop saying "Uhhhh Okayyy....?" it feels like i'm watching Dora
@joanna47 uhhhh okay... so what and thats why B is wrong
so judging by the last two questions we are just supposed to guess things that aren't mentioned by the actual sentence? nowhere does it say anything about cheese or baked goods. This again, is unsubstantiated hypothesis and I am confused why it is correct.
RRE is different than the previous types of questions! Think of it more as trying to come up with an explanation for the discrepancy. It doesn't have to be in the stimulus as long as it explains it correctly.
@mister_jedi it acknowledges this in the question - "which of the following, IF TRUE, most helps to resolve the discrepancy". You have to assume all the answers are true when evaluating which one fits
54 seconds for this question is crazy to me
As in too much or too little time?
I don't agree with the difference b/w and C and D. Other than D had more details. Is that what we are looking for? It's pissing me off, tbh.
C says that the same amount of fat was consumed by both the people who ate less red meat and the people who didn’t eat less red meat.
D says that more fat was consumed by people who ate less red meat (so we assume no change in diet for the people who didn’t eat less red meat).
I would concur and add that D says that more fat was consumed because people who reduced red meat consumption simply compensated that by eating other foods while those who didn't reduce red-meat did not consume other stuff.
Whereas C simply says that both groups eat foods high with fat. Which doesn't really help to explain the difference.
i love cheese
I told myself when clicking the check mark "I know the answer is D but freak it let me choose C" !
real
Are you really Saul Goodman?
Is anyone else struggling with these questions? I am not doing well at alllll!
I guess that I am not understanding how the outside assumptions like in this question bringing in cheese and baked goods is the right answer? The stimulus mentions nothing about It so I am getting confused.
It's because the excess fat consumption must come from somewhere for those who have reduced red meat consumption. If those same people are shown to eat something richer in fat than red meat, that would explain it.
I only got the first question right. Smh, it's not clicking for me.
This is how I took it, it was the "IF TRUE" part of the question, so that is how I approached the answer.
I agree, its not so much about the cheese and baked goods. The point is that they replaced the red meat with something that contains more fat. C states that their fat consumption is about the same. C would be correct if it stated that they consumed more fat than the people who stopped eating red meat. This is what D is stating, which is the distinction.
I needed this W after that last question
100%
real
#feedback Found a typo in the explanation for answer D: "Did the non-redunction group also add cheese and baked goods to its diet?"
For me, C had a lot of grammar to parse through. Only after JY explaining did I understand what C said. Between C and D, I chose D in the interest of time
I almost got hung up on this one. I pretty quickly realized that this answer states the people consume as much fatty foods. The stimulus said that the people who reduced red meat intake consume substantially more fat. It is an assumption that i was making, but it turned out correct.