"People who reduce their consumption of red meat tend to consume as much of other foods that are high in fat as do those who have not reduced their consumption of red meat."
The as do made me look at C as saying people who cut out red meat eat the same amount of fatty food as people who didn't cut out red meat. Which does nothing to explain why people who did cut it out consume more fat. Whereas D explains why they do consume more fat. I also learned the test makers sometimes put really attractive answers right before the correct answer.
I guess that I am not understanding how the outside assumptions like in this question bringing in cheese and baked goods is the right answer? The stimulus mentions nothing about It so I am getting confused.
It's because the excess fat consumption must come from somewhere for those who have reduced red meat consumption. If those same people are shown to eat something richer in fat than red meat, that would explain it.
I agree, its not so much about the cheese and baked goods. The point is that they replaced the red meat with something that contains more fat. C states that their fat consumption is about the same. C would be correct if it stated that they consumed more fat than the people who stopped eating red meat. This is what D is stating, which is the distinction.
C is wrong because it doesn’t matter if they consume the same amount of fat as people who did not decrease red meat. If you think about it, if both groups consume the same amount of “other fat” then one group consumes less fat through red meat, they will actually have a total lower amount of fat consumed.
For example:
Group 1: 50g fat + 10g fat (red meat) = 60g
Group 2: 50g fat + 0g fat (red meat) = 50g
So this doesn’t explain why group 2 would have more but instead would support the first part. Therefore, answer C doesn’t explain why group 2 would actually have more fat consumed.
I think the issue is that C focuses on "consume as much of other foods that are high in fat as do those who have not," meaning if you cut out red meat, you're eating the "other foods" ONLY. Those who haven't cut out red meat are eating the "other foods" PLUS the "red meat," which altogether would suggest that those that haven't cut out red meat should have higher consumption rates of fat. This doesn't align with the stimulus, which says that those who cut out red meat consume more fat.
D, however, makes sense because it is being "replaced." So if the value of these replacement foods is higher, it'll be higher for those who cut out red meat because it is taking the place of the red meat's lower value of fat.
I think that since its saying that people who also eat more red meat are containing the same amount of other high fat foods they would then have consumed more fat overall because high fat foods + red meat >>> High fat foods no red meat. Because its shown red meat is high in fat they are then consuming more making the stem part of people not eating red meat consuming more fat false
My understanding of it is that C just says the ones who reduced their meat intake eat as much of other fatty foods than ones that didn't, while D explains why those who reduced their meat intake consume substantially more fat (through replacing it with fattier foods)
so judging by the last two questions we are just supposed to guess things that aren't mentioned by the actual sentence? nowhere does it say anything about cheese or baked goods. This again, is unsubstantiated hypothesis and I am confused why it is correct.
RRE is different than the previous types of questions! Think of it more as trying to come up with an explanation for the discrepancy. It doesn't have to be in the stimulus as long as it explains it correctly.
@mister_jedi it acknowledges this in the question - "which of the following, IF TRUE, most helps to resolve the discrepancy". You have to assume all the answers are true when evaluating which one fits
i narrowed down to C and D. I was about to chose C, but it said "as much of other foods that are high in fat as ...(the other ppl who are trying to reduce)" i read that as their equal in fat consumption. Too wordy and too extra. D let's us know that the people who are trying to reduce turned around and binge ate everything that was not meat. Leading to excess fat compared to ppl who kept it chill with the red meat only.
I was really confused but I found a way to explain why C is wrong. Here is where I was wrong:
C says: that people who reduced red meat ate the same amount of fat than did people who did not reduce red meat.
At first, I thought, "Oh, there is an increase in other sources of fat for people who ate less red meat, THEREFORE, this explains why the fat has increased."
But, since the people who did not reduce red meat ate as much as fat those who reduced red meat, this new scenario should make no difference than the situation given in the stimulus since the increase in other fatty foods is equally increased for the other group. So those who reduced red meat who compensated fat through other foods would still, in comparison to the other group, have consumed less.
Let's talk in numbers : E.G., if there are numbers 3 and 5, adding 3 to the former would make a difference, making the former now 6, which is bigger than 5. HOWEVER, if 3 is added to both sides, the relationship between the two numbers (in that one is greater and the other is smaller) does not change. 3 and 5 and 6 and 8 are exactly equivalent in forms.
@JessM really like this person's explanation so just going to paste it here:
C is wrong because it doesn’t matter if they consume the same amount of fat as people who did not decrease red meat. If you think about it, if both groups consume the same amount of “other fat” then one group consumes less fat through red meat, they will actually have a total lower amount of fat consumed.
For example:
Group 1: 50g fat + 10g fat (red meat) = 60g
Group 2: 50g fat + 0g fat (red meat) = 50g
So this doesn’t explain why group 2 would have more but instead would support the first part. Therefore, answer C doesn’t explain why group 2 would actually have more fat consumed.
This section is by far my worst section to date. I absolutely despise these RRE question types. I am simply not getting the right answers. I come so close then I fail and I am losing hope. I just do not know what to do at this point. I feel hopeless....
I think we all have those sections! Don't be too discouraged -- if you can do well in other sections then you will be well on your way to a great score! Plus, recognizing what you have to work on is half the battle and you are already there! You got this :)
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i love cheese
I needed this W after that last question
real
100%
to the ppl saying they chose D just because it was more specific, PLS KNOW that it's not because of the specificity.
it's because C says "as much." meaning, they're eating just as much fat as normal red-meat eaters, which contradicts the stimulus.
Answer choice D says they consume MORE fat, which is why it actually resolves the stimulus' discrepancy. yas!
@yam well said!
@yam the yam has spoken mic drop but with a yam
@MissProsecutor thank you 🍠
I liked C until I read D because
"People who reduce their consumption of red meat tend to consume as much of other foods that are high in fat as do those who have not reduced their consumption of red meat."
The as do made me look at C as saying people who cut out red meat eat the same amount of fatty food as people who didn't cut out red meat. Which does nothing to explain why people who did cut it out consume more fat. Whereas D explains why they do consume more fat. I also learned the test makers sometimes put really attractive answers right before the correct answer.
I told myself when clicking the check mark "I know the answer is D but freak it let me choose C" !
real
Are you really Saul Goodman?
He needs to stop saying "Uhhhh Okayyy....?" it feels like i'm watching Dora
@joanna47 uhhhh okay... so what and thats why B is wrong
Is anyone else struggling with these questions? I am not doing well at alllll!
I guess that I am not understanding how the outside assumptions like in this question bringing in cheese and baked goods is the right answer? The stimulus mentions nothing about It so I am getting confused.
I only got the first question right. Smh, it's not clicking for me.
It's because the excess fat consumption must come from somewhere for those who have reduced red meat consumption. If those same people are shown to eat something richer in fat than red meat, that would explain it.
This is how I took it, it was the "IF TRUE" part of the question, so that is how I approached the answer.
I agree, its not so much about the cheese and baked goods. The point is that they replaced the red meat with something that contains more fat. C states that their fat consumption is about the same. C would be correct if it stated that they consumed more fat than the people who stopped eating red meat. This is what D is stating, which is the distinction.
YUHHHHHHH
thats how i felt tooo!!!
whenever i get a question right i feel like the GIF of Tina from bobs burgers doing the body roll.
ugh I went with c because I felt d was suspiciously specific
@mitch.s same
FINALLY! I got my first question CORRECT!
im ngl i have not got one of these right
I really like the time stamps in the video progress bar for each answer! #feedback
I still don't understand how C is wrong but D is right. D is basically saying the same thing as C, just less detailed and with implied assumptions :/
C is wrong because it doesn’t matter if they consume the same amount of fat as people who did not decrease red meat. If you think about it, if both groups consume the same amount of “other fat” then one group consumes less fat through red meat, they will actually have a total lower amount of fat consumed.
For example:
Group 1: 50g fat + 10g fat (red meat) = 60g
Group 2: 50g fat + 0g fat (red meat) = 50g
So this doesn’t explain why group 2 would have more but instead would support the first part. Therefore, answer C doesn’t explain why group 2 would actually have more fat consumed.
I think the issue is that C focuses on "consume as much of other foods that are high in fat as do those who have not," meaning if you cut out red meat, you're eating the "other foods" ONLY. Those who haven't cut out red meat are eating the "other foods" PLUS the "red meat," which altogether would suggest that those that haven't cut out red meat should have higher consumption rates of fat. This doesn't align with the stimulus, which says that those who cut out red meat consume more fat.
D, however, makes sense because it is being "replaced." So if the value of these replacement foods is higher, it'll be higher for those who cut out red meat because it is taking the place of the red meat's lower value of fat.
I think that since its saying that people who also eat more red meat are containing the same amount of other high fat foods they would then have consumed more fat overall because high fat foods + red meat >>> High fat foods no red meat. Because its shown red meat is high in fat they are then consuming more making the stem part of people not eating red meat consuming more fat false
My understanding of it is that C just says the ones who reduced their meat intake eat as much of other fatty foods than ones that didn't, while D explains why those who reduced their meat intake consume substantially more fat (through replacing it with fattier foods)
54 seconds for this question is crazy to me
As in too much or too little time?
Naurrrrrr you're joking
@jaffri i love ur profile pic
@DanyelleTripp-Lumley haha thank youuu aren't they just the cutest?!
so judging by the last two questions we are just supposed to guess things that aren't mentioned by the actual sentence? nowhere does it say anything about cheese or baked goods. This again, is unsubstantiated hypothesis and I am confused why it is correct.
RRE is different than the previous types of questions! Think of it more as trying to come up with an explanation for the discrepancy. It doesn't have to be in the stimulus as long as it explains it correctly.
@mister_jedi it acknowledges this in the question - "which of the following, IF TRUE, most helps to resolve the discrepancy". You have to assume all the answers are true when evaluating which one fits
reduced their steak and take
yeah if i didn't get this right my wall might've had a new hole. Thank god.
i narrowed down to C and D. I was about to chose C, but it said "as much of other foods that are high in fat as ...(the other ppl who are trying to reduce)" i read that as their equal in fat consumption. Too wordy and too extra. D let's us know that the people who are trying to reduce turned around and binge ate everything that was not meat. Leading to excess fat compared to ppl who kept it chill with the red meat only.
i switched my answer in the blind review from d to c because c specifies about other people and i got hung up on that
I was really confused but I found a way to explain why C is wrong. Here is where I was wrong:
C says: that people who reduced red meat ate the same amount of fat than did people who did not reduce red meat.
At first, I thought, "Oh, there is an increase in other sources of fat for people who ate less red meat, THEREFORE, this explains why the fat has increased."
But, since the people who did not reduce red meat ate as much as fat those who reduced red meat, this new scenario should make no difference than the situation given in the stimulus since the increase in other fatty foods is equally increased for the other group. So those who reduced red meat who compensated fat through other foods would still, in comparison to the other group, have consumed less.
Let's talk in numbers : E.G., if there are numbers 3 and 5, adding 3 to the former would make a difference, making the former now 6, which is bigger than 5. HOWEVER, if 3 is added to both sides, the relationship between the two numbers (in that one is greater and the other is smaller) does not change. 3 and 5 and 6 and 8 are exactly equivalent in forms.
Can someone please further explain why C was wrong? Was it just not specific enough?
@JessM really like this person's explanation so just going to paste it here:
C is wrong because it doesn’t matter if they consume the same amount of fat as people who did not decrease red meat. If you think about it, if both groups consume the same amount of “other fat” then one group consumes less fat through red meat, they will actually have a total lower amount of fat consumed.
For example:
Group 1: 50g fat + 10g fat (red meat) = 60g
Group 2: 50g fat + 0g fat (red meat) = 50g
So this doesn’t explain why group 2 would have more but instead would support the first part. Therefore, answer C doesn’t explain why group 2 would actually have more fat consumed.
@ps939 This is helpful, thank you!
i was between c and d but i chose d since it provided examples of foods and c was just vague
@ggasca21 that's exact reason i selected c, thought d was too specific
This section is by far my worst section to date. I absolutely despise these RRE question types. I am simply not getting the right answers. I come so close then I fail and I am losing hope. I just do not know what to do at this point. I feel hopeless....
I think we all have those sections! Don't be too discouraged -- if you can do well in other sections then you will be well on your way to a great score! Plus, recognizing what you have to work on is half the battle and you are already there! You got this :)