No clue why this one felt easy for me. I guess some questions click for certain people, considering I just got one that 85% of people get correct wrong. My logic on this was that the stim says the trad class is not effective because it lacks social process, and without that, the students can't develop insights. How does that relate? well it is explaining why it is ineffective, but the gap, what is left out, is stopping us from making this argument air-tight. If we place that in between, we can see.
Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight
Education in a trad class environment is not a social process
Only social processes can develop students' insights.
Rewrite - reorganizing the info can emphasize the missing piece in a more obvious way.
Traditional classroom education is ineffective. In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group and interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial. Education in such an environment is not truly a social process. Only social processes can develop students' insights.
But what does student insights have to do with anything?
Prediction: If education is to be considered effective, it must develop student insights.
Education Effective -> Development of Insight
If education does NOT develop student insights, it is not effective.
/Development of Insight -> /Education Effective
D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.
Negate sufficient.
Education Effective -> Development of Insight
Just as predicted.
So when I went into the ACs, I looked for something that said Education Effective and Development of Insight. Only D does that and the conditional relationship is correct.
Yesss finished with 45 seconds to spare. Build the confidence in your answer choice by assuming the Assumption before you read the answers. In these questions there is something missing, there is an assumption that is being made, predict what it is!
Got the last two of these right after getting some easier ones wrong. Definitely helps slowing down and highlighting the conclusion so I can see which answers actually support the conclusion.
I went headhunting for an answer choice that says "interactions that are rigid and artificial are not social processes" and went with the only answer that looked like it smh.
i do not understand this one.... at all. The written description says that (D) is a variant of the first bridge, being "if traditional classroom education cannot develop students' insights, then it is ineffective." but (D) says "Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight." Can someone explain how these are variants? If they were variants wouldnt (D) say something like "Education is effective if it can develop students insights?" #plzzz #help
So, i got the answer right after a solid amount of time and extensive use of the negation test. But i stumbled upon a realization in figuring it out.
the question states "The educator's conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?". but there are TWO gaps that need to be filled for it to follow logically. We fill one with the ACs - but just because we assume that efficacy requires developing insights, does that mean that the conclusion follows?
No, because the conclusion says that traditional classrooms are ineffective, so we still need to show that they are not a social process for it to follow. So because it still doesnt follow, is the question stem definitionaly misleading or at least completley innacurate when it says that conclusion follows logically if D is assumed?
I am wondering how misleading the question stem is allowed to be on the LSAT? the stem here implies that the conclusion will follow logically once the assumption is made - but it doesnt, even with the correct answer assumed.
I understand why D is correct and I got it on the BR. But I don’t understand how we can rule out C. I chose C initially because the stim never defines a “social process” and C gives us a definition for that.
Got this wrong because I need to brush up on my groups. I mapped out the chain correctly but forgot that "unless" = negate sufficient, which is answer choice D.
This might be werid but when I take the time to diagram it I always overthink and its not clear to me it acutally confuses me more but when I read it and look for answer its right. I got this right without even doing anything simply becuase D looked right but no way of knowing... strange
1 am studying, have gotten all of these you trys wrong.... i think i hit a wall and its time for bed!
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No clue why this one felt easy for me. I guess some questions click for certain people, considering I just got one that 85% of people get correct wrong. My logic on this was that the stim says the trad class is not effective because it lacks social process, and without that, the students can't develop insights. How does that relate? well it is explaining why it is ineffective, but the gap, what is left out, is stopping us from making this argument air-tight. If we place that in between, we can see.
Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight
Education in a trad class environment is not a social process
Only social processes can develop students' insights.
therefore class is ineffective
this does not make any sense
I don't know how any of this makes sense to anyone. I am going back to the foundations.
Rewrite - reorganizing the info can emphasize the missing piece in a more obvious way.
Traditional classroom education is ineffective. In the traditional classroom, the teacher acts from outside the group and interaction between teachers and students is rigid and artificial. Education in such an environment is not truly a social process. Only social processes can develop students' insights.
But what does student insights have to do with anything?
Prediction: If education is to be considered effective, it must develop student insights.
Education Effective -> Development of Insight
If education does NOT develop student insights, it is not effective.
/Development of Insight -> /Education Effective
D) Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight.
Negate sufficient.
Education Effective -> Development of Insight
Just as predicted.
So when I went into the ACs, I looked for something that said Education Effective and Development of Insight. Only D does that and the conditional relationship is correct.
I'm actually so surprised I got this right considering it was more difficult than the previous SA questions, but I did go 1 minute over time lol
Yesss finished with 45 seconds to spare. Build the confidence in your answer choice by assuming the Assumption before you read the answers. In these questions there is something missing, there is an assumption that is being made, predict what it is!
Ive been getting them wrong at first but getting them right in the blind review... Its taking me about 2min.
I am getting these right... but it's taking me at least 10 minutes to answer these questions.
If one takes over 10 minutes to answer a question, one may be the definition of slow.
Damn choosing C confidently made me feel so smart at that moment lol.
Is there another way instead of mapping and contrapostivies? Its so hard and time consuming I don't know even if I can use it on test day.
Got the last two of these right after getting some easier ones wrong. Definitely helps slowing down and highlighting the conclusion so I can see which answers actually support the conclusion.
les go!!
#help I keep confusing P and C. What is the best lesson to refresh on this? Any tips?
right on first try and wrong on blind review lol. Still happy with myself.
I went headhunting for an answer choice that says "interactions that are rigid and artificial are not social processes" and went with the only answer that looked like it smh.
i do not understand this one.... at all. The written description says that (D) is a variant of the first bridge, being "if traditional classroom education cannot develop students' insights, then it is ineffective." but (D) says "Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight." Can someone explain how these are variants? If they were variants wouldnt (D) say something like "Education is effective if it can develop students insights?" #plzzz #help
I got this one right, but C was tempting. I think what helped was honing in on the argument.
So, i got the answer right after a solid amount of time and extensive use of the negation test. But i stumbled upon a realization in figuring it out.
the question states "The educator's conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?". but there are TWO gaps that need to be filled for it to follow logically. We fill one with the ACs - but just because we assume that efficacy requires developing insights, does that mean that the conclusion follows?
No, because the conclusion says that traditional classrooms are ineffective, so we still need to show that they are not a social process for it to follow. So because it still doesnt follow, is the question stem definitionaly misleading or at least completley innacurate when it says that conclusion follows logically if D is assumed?
I am wondering how misleading the question stem is allowed to be on the LSAT? the stem here implies that the conclusion will follow logically once the assumption is made - but it doesnt, even with the correct answer assumed.
Ok for the logic of the minor argument could you do:
Develop Insight(DI)---> Social Process(SP)
Traditional Classroom(TC) -->/SP
Take the contrapositive
SP--> /TC
then chain the conditionals
DI--> SP---> /TC
DI--/TC
I didn't kick TC into the domain. Is this correct and how could I continue the argument without kicking it up into the domain?
I understand why D is correct and I got it on the BR. But I don’t understand how we can rule out C. I chose C initially because the stim never defines a “social process” and C gives us a definition for that.
got it right but took forever with mapping anything out
Got this wrong because I need to brush up on my groups. I mapped out the chain correctly but forgot that "unless" = negate sufficient, which is answer choice D.
social process→develop student insightsConclusion:
education is effectiveD)
develop student insights→education is effectiveChain and done, is this right? The explanation in the video seems over complicated.
This might be werid but when I take the time to diagram it I always overthink and its not clear to me it acutally confuses me more but when I read it and look for answer its right. I got this right without even doing anything simply becuase D looked right but no way of knowing... strange
1 am studying, have gotten all of these you trys wrong.... i think i hit a wall and its time for bed!