Got the last two of these right after getting some easier ones wrong. Definitely helps slowing down and highlighting the conclusion so I can see which answers actually support the conclusion.
I went headhunting for an answer choice that says "interactions that are rigid and artificial are not social processes" and went with the only answer that looked like it smh.
i do not understand this one.... at all. The written description says that (D) is a variant of the first bridge, being "if traditional classroom education cannot develop students' insights, then it is ineffective." but (D) says "Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight." Can someone explain how these are variants? If they were variants wouldnt (D) say something like "Education is effective if it can develop students insights?" #plzzz #help
So, i got the answer right after a solid amount of time and extensive use of the negation test. But i stumbled upon a realization in figuring it out.
the question states "The educator's conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?". but there are TWO gaps that need to be filled for it to follow logically. We fill one with the ACs - but just because we assume that efficacy requires developing insights, does that mean that the conclusion follows?
No, because the conclusion says that traditional classrooms are ineffective, so we still need to show that they are not a social process for it to follow. So because it still doesnt follow, is the question stem definitionaly misleading or at least completley innacurate when it says that conclusion follows logically if D is assumed?
I am wondering how misleading the question stem is allowed to be on the LSAT? the stem here implies that the conclusion will follow logically once the assumption is made - but it doesnt, even with the correct answer assumed.
I understand why D is correct and I got it on the BR. But I don’t understand how we can rule out C. I chose C initially because the stim never defines a “social process” and C gives us a definition for that.
Got this wrong because I need to brush up on my groups. I mapped out the chain correctly but forgot that "unless" = negate sufficient, which is answer choice D.
This might be werid but when I take the time to diagram it I always overthink and its not clear to me it acutally confuses me more but when I read it and look for answer its right. I got this right without even doing anything simply becuase D looked right but no way of knowing... strange
They key on this one for me was figuring out which one of the premises the argument can technically exist without. Ultimately what helped me decide was the "because", education is ineffective because blank blank blank. Take the premise out from after the because and it seriously weakens the argument
#feedback Do you guys take these drills timed or use unlimited time?
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Is there another way instead of mapping and contrapostivies? Its so hard and time consuming I don't know even if I can use it on test day.
Got the last two of these right after getting some easier ones wrong. Definitely helps slowing down and highlighting the conclusion so I can see which answers actually support the conclusion.
les go!!
#help I keep confusing P and C. What is the best lesson to refresh on this? Any tips?
right on first try and wrong on blind review lol. Still happy with myself.
I went headhunting for an answer choice that says "interactions that are rigid and artificial are not social processes" and went with the only answer that looked like it smh.
i do not understand this one.... at all. The written description says that (D) is a variant of the first bridge, being "if traditional classroom education cannot develop students' insights, then it is ineffective." but (D) says "Education is not effective unless it leads to the development of insight." Can someone explain how these are variants? If they were variants wouldnt (D) say something like "Education is effective if it can develop students insights?" #plzzz #help
I got this one right, but C was tempting. I think what helped was honing in on the argument.
So, i got the answer right after a solid amount of time and extensive use of the negation test. But i stumbled upon a realization in figuring it out.
the question states "The educator's conclusion follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?". but there are TWO gaps that need to be filled for it to follow logically. We fill one with the ACs - but just because we assume that efficacy requires developing insights, does that mean that the conclusion follows?
No, because the conclusion says that traditional classrooms are ineffective, so we still need to show that they are not a social process for it to follow. So because it still doesnt follow, is the question stem definitionaly misleading or at least completley innacurate when it says that conclusion follows logically if D is assumed?
I am wondering how misleading the question stem is allowed to be on the LSAT? the stem here implies that the conclusion will follow logically once the assumption is made - but it doesnt, even with the correct answer assumed.
Ok for the logic of the minor argument could you do:
Develop Insight(DI)---> Social Process(SP)
Traditional Classroom(TC) -->/SP
Take the contrapositive
SP--> /TC
then chain the conditionals
DI--> SP---> /TC
DI--/TC
I didn't kick TC into the domain. Is this correct and how could I continue the argument without kicking it up into the domain?
I understand why D is correct and I got it on the BR. But I don’t understand how we can rule out C. I chose C initially because the stim never defines a “social process” and C gives us a definition for that.
got it right but took forever with mapping anything out
Got this wrong because I need to brush up on my groups. I mapped out the chain correctly but forgot that "unless" = negate sufficient, which is answer choice D.
social process→develop student insightsConclusion:
education is effectiveD)
develop student insights→education is effectiveChain and done, is this right? The explanation in the video seems over complicated.
This might be werid but when I take the time to diagram it I always overthink and its not clear to me it acutally confuses me more but when I read it and look for answer its right. I got this right without even doing anything simply becuase D looked right but no way of knowing... strange
1 am studying, have gotten all of these you trys wrong.... i think i hit a wall and its time for bed!
got frazzled under time restriction and jumbled up the logic in my head. got it right on blind review when I had time to fix my logic.
What makes premise 2 a premise and not simply context?
i really wish this guy would teach us how to think without lawgic. he's mentioned various times that lawgic is too time consuming...
I really do not understand why D is correct. I got C
They key on this one for me was figuring out which one of the premises the argument can technically exist without. Ultimately what helped me decide was the "because", education is ineffective because blank blank blank. Take the premise out from after the because and it seriously weakens the argument
No worse feeling than second guessing yourself and changing to the wrong answer from the right answer last minute…
Definitely overthought this one- had D but changed it to C in blind review because I thought it wasn't bridging all of the info together! Ugh!
I chose C initially but in blind review realized it's unnecessary information :(
Tried too hard to be on time
#feedback Do you guys take these drills timed or use unlimited time?