This question is a reason I read through all the answers and use process of elimination - even when I'm confident in the answer. Answer paranoia is useful in situations like this when you might not catch the reason why it's right by just skimming. It's a conclusion - more than that, it's a sub-conclusion!
I got this right, but I thought the first sentence was a conclusion. I have a hard time identifying conclusions if there isn't an obvious word. Here the second sentence is a conclusion because of the "this suggests" since it's something that is receiving support by the previous sentence?
Even though this took me 7:02, I'm glad I reread AC D, and chose it. I was stuck between C & D, but after slowing down and realizing that the premise was not indirectly supporting the conclusion as stated in C, I went with D.
this question is a good practice for distinguishing sub conclusions and main conclusions; and to know the fact that a sub conclusion will have sub premises
I got it right but it took me like 3 mins cuz I was stuck on C, they both sounded good in my head and would talk myself into making ti correct, any help on how I can speed up the process?
@erarabiameyer C and D are literally the definitions of "minor premise" and "major premise" respectively.
if you can clearly understand what minor and major premises are, you should be able to quickly identify them as soon as you've read the stimulus. then go hunting. not POE. this of course, depends on whether you can first identify main point and any premise apart.
The word "because" is my weapon for determining support relationships. If I'm not sure what is a conclusion and what is support, I'll take the two statements and put "because" between them. If I get a sentence that makes sense, the first statement is the conclusion and the second statement is the premise. If the sentence I get doesn't quite make sense, I switch the two statements around and leave the word "because" between them. One way or the other should make sense as a complete sentence. You should be able to sense the support relationship this way because we use "because" all the time in natural English. This trick works with determining the major conclusion and subconclusion as well. That's how I avoided reading this stimulus all wrong.
Think of it this way: when you first read the stimulus, it's pretty clear that there are two conclusions: 1- The proposal to allow phone use on planes is ill-advised. 2- Cell phone use on planes would be far more annoying than on trains and buses. Ask yourself, does the proposal being ill-advised somehow lend support to the idea that using phones on planes would be far more annoying? or the other way around? I think once you ask yourself that, it becomes clear that extreme annoyance would more lend itself to something being ill-advised, rather than the other way around. Whichever conclusion lends support to another is your sub-conclusion, whichever is supported by another conclusion is your main conclusion.
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This question is a reason I read through all the answers and use process of elimination - even when I'm confident in the answer. Answer paranoia is useful in situations like this when you might not catch the reason why it's right by just skimming. It's a conclusion - more than that, it's a sub-conclusion!
there's nothing written under ac D.
Ugh I doubted myself thinking this one makes sense but it's so convoluted
I got this right, but I thought the first sentence was a conclusion. I have a hard time identifying conclusions if there isn't an obvious word. Here the second sentence is a conclusion because of the "this suggests" since it's something that is receiving support by the previous sentence?
noooooooo!! I fell for A the first time, but chose D in the BR :/
Even though this took me 7:02, I'm glad I reread AC D, and chose it. I was stuck between C & D, but after slowing down and realizing that the premise was not indirectly supporting the conclusion as stated in C, I went with D.
D went the long way in defining a sub-conclusion.
I got it right buttt, I was 54 seconds over the time.
@NhubriaChikaka Same, got it right but 48s over the time, we got this!
smh I forgot sub conclusions exist
UGH I misread the first sentence not once but twice.
We are so back after that ridiculously hard NA section.
@Arthurxx i feel this so much. the NA section broke my soul
@NylaWhite fr I gave up and skipped it. I will be going back to it after this sections -.-
this question is a good practice for distinguishing sub conclusions and main conclusions; and to know the fact that a sub conclusion will have sub premises
minor premise -> supports minor/sub conclusion -> minor/sub conclusion becomes premise to main conclusion
aint no way
LETS GO WE ARE SOOOOOOOO BACK
I got it right but it took me like 3 mins cuz I was stuck on C, they both sounded good in my head and would talk myself into making ti correct, any help on how I can speed up the process?
@erarabiameyer C and D are literally the definitions of "minor premise" and "major premise" respectively.
if you can clearly understand what minor and major premises are, you should be able to quickly identify them as soon as you've read the stimulus. then go hunting. not POE. this of course, depends on whether you can first identify main point and any premise apart.
The word "because" is my weapon for determining support relationships. If I'm not sure what is a conclusion and what is support, I'll take the two statements and put "because" between them. If I get a sentence that makes sense, the first statement is the conclusion and the second statement is the premise. If the sentence I get doesn't quite make sense, I switch the two statements around and leave the word "because" between them. One way or the other should make sense as a complete sentence. You should be able to sense the support relationship this way because we use "because" all the time in natural English. This trick works with determining the major conclusion and subconclusion as well. That's how I avoided reading this stimulus all wrong.
This is so helpful!
Got it right 3 seconds faster than the target
I got overconfident...
Not going to lie, I was so confident I didn't really read the other answer choices. Lesson learned!
frick as I was going through the stimulus, I marked it as the sub-conclusion/ major premise. I didn't fully read D and eliminated it prematurely :(
Sameee
BAGGED! Nailed it
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holy shit i suck at these
Could someone help me differentiate between sub-conclusion/major premise vs. main conclusion? Thank you in advance!
Short and clear. Thank you :)
Think of it this way: when you first read the stimulus, it's pretty clear that there are two conclusions: 1- The proposal to allow phone use on planes is ill-advised. 2- Cell phone use on planes would be far more annoying than on trains and buses. Ask yourself, does the proposal being ill-advised somehow lend support to the idea that using phones on planes would be far more annoying? or the other way around? I think once you ask yourself that, it becomes clear that extreme annoyance would more lend itself to something being ill-advised, rather than the other way around. Whichever conclusion lends support to another is your sub-conclusion, whichever is supported by another conclusion is your main conclusion.
Good day to be an English major
Me seconds before getting it right: I dont know, this is a weird one.
Me seconds after getting it right: Just like I thought. Elementary really.
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