We're trying to improve our notes and WAJ system. Do you actually review your wrong-answer journal, or is the main value in taking the notes? If you review, how often?
Please tell us how you're using your notes and wrong answer journals, whether on 7Sage or another app!
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I would really like an option to "add question to WAJ" once a question is answered. I know we can take notes on questions, but being able to create a journal of wrong questions or suspicious correct questions, a journal with the ability to remove/add questions over time, would allow for critical review.
I'm confused how to use the wrong answer journal on here. I use bookmarking extensively and try to write notes for every question I got wrong, and some that I get correct. It helps a lot. I try to review every day. I'd like to be able to read my notes separately, without having to click on a question and then view its respective notes -- I don't know how to do that yet.
I currently use a google sheet for a WAJ, would love a similar feature on 7sage that allows me to deep link questions and has accelerators to add these questions and analytics built in
I think the main value for me is in the note taking process and seeing the patterns that come up, but it's helpful to have if I need to review or if I get a tutor, as they can review it for patterns in my errors too.
I would use the notes feature on here more often if I could access all the notes in a single tab (like a Notes page under Analytics or something) instead of them embedded in the question only. For now I use a Google Sheets document but it'd be more helpful having the question information right there to see like on here.
Edit: Apologies if this is not the sort of feedback being requested here. TL;DR: I don’t use my WAJ on 7sage because it is difficult to distinguish WAJ and other notes.
Being able to implement custom tags to notes (in addition to the existing question/stimulus type tags) would be awesome I think. There are certain habits I am trying to break that are not necessarily stimulus or Q-type dependent that I would like to be able to easily review. For example, I struggle with making unwarranted assumptions about ACs. It would be cool to tag those when it happens, so I can review my mistakes across various instances, identify patterns, etc.
Right now I primarily use a 3-subject notebook for notes (supplementing with some notes on 7sage, but only sparsely). 1 section for active problem solving/diagramming. One for WAJ. One for reflection. I prefer this because it is separate but unified in a single notebook. If I could do something like this on 7sage that would be neat because obviously what is actually missing from my notebook is the ability to quickly reference questions.
I have never looked at my wrong answer journal but I have been reviewing wrong answers by going back to the full list of questions.
For me the main value is just the process of writing it down which forces me to fully understand the question and ACs, I never review it after the fact.
I don't use the feature on here. I have a physical one, but don't really review it. I think the main thing that's good about it is taking notes.
I primarily find value in the note-taking process itself. For me, the WAJ functions as a rubber duck method journal. I explain my process to myself to figure out where I went wrong (or right!). It lets me methodically work through the problem and catch things I missed or misinterpreted, make sure I understand what my exact thought process was, and correct any logical errors/assumptions I made. It's also helpful to incorporate tips and notes from people in the discussion for that question. However, I rarely go back and review my WAJ.
What I would love is an expanded WAJ feature with varied templates that we can tag/sort/prioritize. For example, I'd love to be able to look at all of my WAJ entries for phenom-hypo questions tagged as 5* difficulty. Maybe there are different templates for different types of questions. It's not super helpful to just pull up all my notes to look through, as WAJ entries are not the only things I keep in notes.
My most important request, however, would be implementing a correct answer journal alongside the WAJ. I use my CAJ for very difficult questions (like with a 50% solve rate) that I get correct so I can really digest how exactly I reached the correct answer, whether I missed anything that the official explanations mention, if I accidentally made an assumption, talk myself through the ACs I eliminated, ensure I didn't just guess, and how I can apply my process getting to the right AC to other questions in the future. The CAJ is particularly helpful when I had a question narrowed down to two ACs but I ended up getting it correct.
I think the best option would realistically be an integrated way to look at wrong questions within regular study interfaces. I often completely forget that the WAJ exists tbh
I used the notes as a WAJ, but found it was too difficult to easily review. I recently decided to make a running google sheet as an alternative WAJ where I categorize all my wrong answers and can sort them more effectively to see my mistake patterns. Having the option to keep notes in 7sage has been a HUGE jumping off point for my new WAJ, though, because I was able to leave notes about why exactly I made a certain mistake in real time.
👋I use it mainly for the exercise.
I think part of the issue is I dont know really how to review them. Review like this is not a normal skill I have developed, I’m not sure how to engage with it really or where to begin.
At times I discuss and look at breakdown from AI
I have a journal like notes app that I use, and I have it sectioned off for LR and RC. I almost never review my RC wrong answers since it usually requires rereading the passage to go over a single question and my time is very limited. I used the study plan and when it asked me to review my wrong answer journal I usually would.
I use the notes for a WAJ, but would love if there was a way to review the notes all together, rather than only on the question itself. If someone is using only 7Sage, then the WAJ in the notes of each question doesn’t facilitate recognizing the patterns of your mistakes across multiple questions. I use an excel spreadsheet for that reason
For me, the main value I derive from taking notes on questions lies in the act of taking the notes. I do not review them, but I do share them in the discussions tab and respond to any comments about them!
I find the lightweight notes tab to be adequate for my study needs, although I can see why other students might want more functionality.
I note nearly all my incorrect answers- but I do not review the journal itself.
I don’t review my wrong answer journal, primarily because the process is cumbersome. I used to maintain an Google Sheet (so Excel style) with my entries, but I ended up making so many entries (partially because I would also make an entry if I got the correct answer but took way too long because I was tempted by a trap) that the sheet became very laggy. I switched to maintaining my wrong answer journal here on 7Sage by making private comments, but review of this was also cumbersome because while I can see each of my comments in one place, there aren’t tags or other organizational features that I can assign based on what I wrote in my wrong answer journal entry to gather insights. I did feed one of my most recent wrong answer journal entries to the AI Coach, and found its insight useful.
Another thing that makes wrong answer journal review cumbersome here in 7Sage right now is that I also do a “blind review journal.” I do this for all questions 7Sage suggests I review before seeing the correct answer. I write down anything I was unsure about in the stimulus, my prephrase, and an assessment of each answer choice (including a justification for the correct choice). Since all notes show together as far as I’ve been able to see, these notes show together with the wrong answer journal notes even if I ended up getting the question correct (and I was not unsure about my answer). If the 7Sage team could consider this, that would be great!
Overall, I do find the process of making the wrong answer journal entry useful, even if just to write my process down and make sure I’m applying the methods I think I am when approaching a question.
i dont know how to do one in a way that works for me
@lolowoo1 Yeah, I feel like figuring out how to journal requires a curriculum all on its own.
I do try to review it as much as I can on 7sage, but Idk if its me not knowing how but I feel like there should be a separate tab for it that separates it by question type.
I have a WAJ where it's organized by question type, and even before all my entries for each question type, I have a brief bullet-pointed section under my question type "header" where I keep reminders for myself for the most common mistakes I make for that question type. Just reading over that before a drill or section is really helpful for me. I just keep all of this on a Google Doc and it works for me!
I have one in a specific format that I then feed into notebook llm or any gpt to help me find patterns in the mistakes I am making. It has been pretty helpful because I then know what to target each time.
I review the day after the drill but I do not refer to it any other time.
I usually review at the end of each session and at the beginning of the following session
Yes, I review my wag before every study session
The first time I took the test I looked at it constantly and kept it updated. Now that I'm on a more abbreviated study schedule I haven't updated it but I plan to review. It is incredibly helpful