Hi there!

Quick question - are we supposed to respond to acceptances and scholarship offers received via email?

Thanks!

Does anyone know will the ABA release the employment numbers for the Class of 2017?

I'm hoping someone wouldn't mind explaining the application cycle to me. Honestly, the minimum that I know is that applications are rolling, so it's best to get your applications in early. But when exactly do all applications open? (or is it different for each school?) And in how far advance do we get access to the essay questions? And is there a general date/month that you should have all your apps in in order to have a good chance for scholarship money?

I apologize if these are really basic questions. If so, I'd appreciate someone showing me a webinar or a site that breaks it all down.

Thanks a lot :)

Hey guys, it's me again. I found that the 7sage discussion forum is just super helpful for a self-starter like me, so I figure I will make good use of it to shed more lights on some of my doubts about law school admission.

I have a 3.63 UGPA from a top-ranking state flagship; I am well aware that 3.63 is by no means a decent UGPA for the T14, but I also have multiple majors as an undergraduate student: I have 4 majors and 1 minor in the field of social sciences that are well-known to be the typical "prelaw" majors, such as criminology. I have taken over 240 credits in 5 years (twice as much as the graduation requirement), and I have to point out that the only reason that stopped me from being a summa cum laude student is that I suffered major depression in my freshman and sophomore year (Yes, I will explain this in my PS by intergrating it into a appealing personal story). I took about 15-18 credits per semester with a 2.6- 2.8 GPA in the first two college years, but I managed to schedule over 30 credits per semester in the last three years. Starting my junior year, none of my semester GPA ever went below 3.86 and I was on dean's list all the time. Clearly, everyone will notice such radical improvement and the upsising trend when they look at my undergraduate transcript.

After graduated from college, I attend graduate school at a top 5 college, which is a very very prestigous institution in the field of social science. However, my graduate GPA was embrassingly low at a 3.49. The college itself is well-known for it's grade deflation (well maybe you guys could tell which one it is... lol), and I have to admit that I never spend any time studying or doing my job as a graduate student. In this case, I have no one else to blame but myself...

I currrently have one SSCI paper under review (co-author), but I don't know if I should spend more time revising and improving it if I were going to law school. I don't know if this would be a valuable asset that the admissions consider. After all, studying for the LSAT is already time-consuming, and my hope is that I can crack the June test at 168+ (my initial score from the cold diag test was 162, so I think this should be a good shot for me) but in order to do that I have to study very hard. Is it really worth it to spend time on the SSCI at this point?

I am applying for the Fall 2019 cycle. For me, it's either T14 or nothing. I do have confidence that I could get into either Georgetown or Cornell (a 168 LSAT might do), but I don't know if I should give T6 a try. My plan is that if I failed to get into T6, I could transfer to T3 at the end of 1L.

Now that I have told you everything you need to know about my law school admission. Long story short, I will sum my questions here as follow:

1) Do law schools really give more consideration to students with multiple majors like me, despite that their UGPA might not be as high as the other candidates? I know that law schools are number whores - but should I give T6 a shot?

2) Does an escalating UGPA trend look more favorable to the admission? Will it, at least to an extent, compensate for a low cumulative UGPA?

3) Will my graduate GPA jeopardize my chances of being accepted? I know that the law school admission "claim" that they don't give consideration to GGPA, but I don't find this comment too plausible. I mean, a good GGPA never INCREASE your chance of being accepted, but it is likely that a bad GGPA will HURT your chance...

4) Does publication look good on my law school resume? I've asked a few people and they all told different stories. I am getting more and more confused about this. Should I spend more time to work on my paper?

5) Is it possible that I got accepted into Harvard (MyLSN tells me that I have zero chance with Yale and Stanford) with a super impressive PS and a ~173 LSAT?

6) This is a seemingly non-sense and stupid question but I guess I will still add it to my list: does being an Asian female makes me URM? My guess is no, but I just want to make sure.

Thank you all for your advices!

Hi everyone,

When we ask recommenders to write recommendation letter, is there anything specific we should remind them to include?

In other words, is there anything law school admission must see in a recommendation letter?

P.S. I am out of school for 7 years already, so one letter will be from my manager (who is also a part time college professor), and the other letter will be from a attorney/mentor I work with (who is also an alumni for my dream school).

Thanks!

I was expelled from high school for getting into a physical altercation - it was in self defense and there were racial elements involved. I think this can be an interesting personal statement that shows growth; I am also thinking about getting into some of the psychological aspects of this event. However, this specific situation may be a rare one for the people reading personal statements in admissions, so I don't have a lot to reference it's appropriateness off of. I don't know what type of impression this will give off. I think I can pull it off, but I am unsure due to its novelty.

I'm changing careers after 22 years and trying to cram all of this in hoping to knock this June LSAT out of the park and get accepted for Fall 2018. Just wondering if anyone else out there is in the same situation.

Helo 7sage friends,

I just wrote a gpa addendum and need help with proofreading. English is not my first language. I can't afford making basic mistakes in my apps, so please can someone just check it for grammar and composition?

I promise it's very short!

? thank you!

Does anyone know how law schools/California bar association, look upon a case of you suing someone for a hit and run? Don't recall details, is it important to report? And does anyone know if this will effect future bar exam?

Back in May after I did my diagnostic, I had a bit of a panic attack. It was well below what I expected and I genuinlly did not think I was going to be going to law school. My GPA was competitive average which meant my LSAT would have to be average at best to get into the school I wanted to. That meant a 20 point increase. Today I got accepted into that school. A stanger I was buying preptests off of recomended 7Sage to me and I am grateful I listened to his advice. I will be passing it on, recommending 7Sage to everyone I know writing the LSAT in the the future! Thanks 7Sage!

I took the December LSAT and underperformed (and new it) and also took the February LSAT and feel like I did much better. For some of the schools I'm applying to, my Dec. score is at or just below the median, but for many of the schools my expected Feb. score is above their medians. Should I wait until I receive my Feb. score before sending in an application? Will LSAC/CAS include my February score once it is reported if I apply today? I'm struggling because everybody tells me earlier is always better, but there is such a disparity between my low-160s Dec. score and expected high 160s Feb. score, I want to make sure the significantly better score is included in any application I complete. Any advice would be much appreciated.

One of the applications asks me to provide a secondary school where I received my diploma. Are they asking for --- literally, the elementary or middle school that I attended? There's a place on the app for graduate school so I assume not that?

probably a stupid question - but on the LSAC LOR form, are the "phone number" and "Prefix" fields important?

I ask because I already sent the emails through the system but I didn't fill out the prefex (Dr.) or the phone number fields before sending. It's not letting me edit and resend, only delete and create new

Does this matter or is it totally inconsequential? Does a recommendation look suspect if it doesn't have a contact phone number?

Hi everyone,

My Feb LSAT got postponed to Feb 24. This will be my third attempt and my current highest score is a 150.

I am not trying to get into a T10 school. My dream school is Loyola Chicago, which currently ranks #82. And I am also considering DePaul and John Marshall Law School which are at even lower ranks. In other words, I will be happy if I got accepted into any law school in the City of Chicago which offer a part time program.

With that being said, should I still apply for Fall 2018 admission after I received the Feb LSAT score?

Thanks!

I know that you can save $100 when you buy an additional Admissions Unlimited x1, but do you have to buy them at the same time? I know I'd like to get one, but I'm not sure if I'd like to purchase a second. If I wait, will I lose the chance to get the $100 discount?

I'm assuming business causal? Sport coat okay/recommended?

Does anyone know how to contact Larry Law Law, the owner of the 0L prep course called (KTCOOLs)? I was wondering if his course was still available. I recall reading a promo saying that it will end indefinitely.

Hi all - I'm currently working on the Yale application, wherein they recommend submitting a resume and limiting it to a single page. I'm wondering if others who have worked for 5 or more years after graduating college are having trouble limiting to one page, and if it's advisable to submit a two page resume? I've had 3 jobs post grad, 3 internships during school, a publication, and some misc. sports awards and other honors. Including everything on a single page would mean not putting much (or any) detail for each job position. As an alternative, does it make sense to exclude the internships? They were long ago, but still meaningful experiences. Also a portion of the application specifically asks for internship experience and other work completed during studies, maybe it's not necessary to include it in both places? In other words, the resume could be just for honors, awards and publications and the other parts of the application can cover work experience (both pre and post-grad)?

Would be great to hear how others have approached the resume. The application doesn't specify the exact components they expect to see in it

Thanks!

Hari

Hi all -

I'm panicking about everything - June test, applications, LORs, emails to schools, strategy. I'm trying really hard to stay as calm as possible and focus on studying but its hard. I've been thinking for a while that I should probably work with a professional and I'm trying to figure out how to go about it. David Busis is an option as well as a few others. I just don't know if I'm having a knee-jerk reaction to my anxiety/stress or if working with a consultant will get me to where I need to be.

A little about me - I'm not a 4.0/160 person. My numbers are below medians and most cases below the 25th percentile. I know its going to be hard for me to get in to a decent school but I don't want to spend thousands of dollars for someone to tell me I'm not going to get into a decent school. What I DO want is to talk to a professional about my LOR, resume and various questions that come up regarding my application. But damn, they all charge thousands!! I feel like I'll be in debt before I even start law school :(.

Any help on your experience with consultants and how you chose one would be appreciated.

I used to work with an attorney who agreed to write an LOR for me. We weren't employed at the same agency but did a lot of work together and served on some of the same committees. She left her position not to long ago to serve as an assistant director at one of the schools I'm applying to, so she wrote the letter for me on the school's letterhead.

I also asked for my last two supervisors to write me letters, which they both agreed but haven't submitted yet, which as you might imagine is causing me some anxiety. I had planned to submit my academic LOR and the attorney's LOR to this one particular school, but I'm wonder what the community thinks? Does it seem like it'll matter that one of their own staff wrote me the letter (and I believe it's a pretty decent letter)? Or would they prefer to hear from my actual employer instead?

Thanks!

UPDATE: Applications for pro-bono consulting are closed. We've already chosen our winners.

Hi everyone,

On April 15, we’re going to raise the price of Admissions Comprehensive Consulting from $2999 to $3499.

I was going to spin this like, “Hey, lock in your 2017 price now,” and to be honest, I might still spin it, but the forum didn’t feel like the right place for a sales pitch, so I’m just going to explain why we’re doing what we’re doing.

This past fall, we were overwhelmed with demand, and we had to shut down our sales page throughout most of October, our busiest month. I could have responded by quickly hiring a bunch of editors and consultants with fancy pedigrees, but I was concerned about the quality of the product. I would much rather be a premium service than an application widget factory.

We want to use the new revenue to create an even more premium experience, which means the following:

Already we’ve hired a new manager and contracted with proofreaders to ensure that the final draft of every document in a consulting package gets a second pair of eyes. Look out for even more improvements in the future.

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If I purchase now, can I use the package for the 2018-2019 admissions cycle?

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The package doesn’t expire until you’re completely squared away. For example, you could purchase consulting now, apply to law school in the fall of 2018, and continue working with us through the summer of 2019 as you negotiate your scholarship offers and try to get off waitlists.

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Hi all, I'm applying to school in the fall and am going to start requesting my LOR's now (1. to get it out of the way and 2. to give some of my writers time to do it without feeling rushed on their end as I know they have busy schedules). Here are the people I'm going to ask to write LORs for me:

Graduate school professor that was also on my thesis committee. I did well in her classes, I feel confident that she "liked" me, and would write me a good LOR. I also volunteered to do my thesis on a project she was working on so I'm hoping there is some vested interest there. I was in grad school 2009-2011 so this is my most recent college experience (obtained my UG degree in 1998 and I couldn't pick out 95% of my UG professors out of a line up at this point).

Former boss (military) that is my mentor and who I have had an over 15 year professional and personal relationship with.

Former military work colleague that was a military lawyer and is now a successful lawyer in civilian practice.

The principal at my daughter's elementary school who can speak to my volunteer work within the school. For the last two years, I have performed significant volunteer service for my daughter's school. I am the coach of her basketball team, assistant coach of the school's track team, I am the "Wednesday lunch parent" (translation - provide adult supervision for a 2 hour lunch / recess period for the school every Wednesday, year round), class librarian (work the library for the class every other Thursday), and Girls on The Run practice parent (bring snacks twice a week for the school's GOTR program).

QUESTION (s): I believe that admissions committees would prioritize the LORs in the order above (as far as relevance / usefulness in the decision process. Agree / disagree? Any issues with any of the potential LOR writers or are there any other "type" of person I should be looking for? Note: Finding someone to write a quality LOR from my UG days is going to be extremely tough since, you know, Bill Clinton was president, Seinfeld was still airing new episodes, and mp3s were invented that year...

Hello everyone,

I am an UMR (first generation Mexican-American) and a bunch of priority deadlines are this Thursday so I just want to make sure I'm not overlooking a certain school. I know the ivy leagues tend to be good for this but based on my LSAT and GPA of 159 and 3.24, I am not applying to those schools.

I am applying to UC Hastings (top choice), Chicago- Kent, UC Irvine, U of Wisconsin.... any other recommendations?

So far I have submitted apps for Pepperdine, USD and U of Denver.

Thank you,

Stephanie

I'm wrestling with the idea of applying to Yale by Feb 28. I just took the LSAT 2 days ago. I think I did okay (my gut says it was between 13-15 misses or a 167, best case scenario maybe a 172). I had only recently committed myself to wanting to go to law school, which is why I missed the December LSAT and a number of the application cycles for schools that express concerns against testing in February. Fortunately Yale is not one of those schools; they accept Feb test scores without a stated penalty to the applicant's admission chances. Yale is the only top 5 law school to which this applies, and I also have legacy at Yale which I think may help my chances.

I'm 28 now, waiting a year and applying next winter would mean I start Law School when I'm 30. I also don't know what I would do with the extra year besides work and save. I'm currently in a career field somewhat unrelated to law (corporate finance), so I don't think an extra year of work experience would particularly bolster my application (I've already worked for 6 years since graduating college). So applying this year and starting in the fall (if I get in) makes a lot of sense...though there are some things I'm unsure of:

The deadline to apply for financial aid in March 15, though I imagine many students have already applied. does applying for aid this late reduce chances of receiving grants/scholarships?

Does an LSAT score of 170 realistically even qualify me for any aid at a school like Yale? Is the criteria for aid need based or merit based? Socioeconomically my family is UMC and I personally have non-liquid assets (homeowner's equity)

As mentioned Yale doesn't actually communicate a "penalty" for Feb LSAT test takers, does anyone have information to suggest this may not truly be the case?

Question about re-application...I obviously don't know my LSAT score yet, so in that sense I'm sort of applying "blind". It's entirely possible I screwed up more than I thought and my score is more like a 160, which would obviously seriously hurt my chances. Does re-applying to the same law school a year later put you at a disadvantage against students who are applying for the first time?

Any thoughts/insights are appreciated. If it makes sense to wait or if I should just go for it.

Thanks!

Hari

Hello,

I need some insight on what exactly I should omit from my Resume. I graduated undergrad in 2012 and went back for my paralegal cert. in 2015. I have 5 years work experience. I also have a ton of extracurricular activities(boxing, dancing, mentoring), Honor Society's and leadership positions during undergrad. Should I include all of those things or should I stick to my skills and employment experience? Thanks for your responses!