So I was really hoping that my Sept score would be enough for me to comfortably apply to the schools that I'm targeting but, like many of those who sat for the exam, I left discouraged and fell short of the score I wanted. After waiting that month to get my score back, it has taken a lot out of me to get back into the study grind. Is a month and a half (mid Oct - Dec exam) enough time to see an increase in score (hoping for 5-7 point improvement)?

The point: I graduated from undergrad a couple years ago and if I wait to apply next cycle, that would essentially mean I'd be starting law school at the age of 27. Is that too late? And furthermore graduating from LS at 30? I really want to apply this cycle but I also don't want to rush this process and risk bad study habits along the way for the sole purpose of forcing my application. Also, I don't want to apply any later than after the Dec scores come out bc of scholarship money etc, etc.

Is anyone in the same boat as me or have any advice? The December exam is QUICKLY approaching and I'm not sure what to do. Help

Hi!

I am an undergraduate student from Atlantic Canada. And I came across the grade conversion table on LSAC's website. My universities approach to allocating letter grades to ranges of numeric grades is very different from the one shown in that table. And I am pretty sure that my transcript will have both numeric and letter grades. In calculating GPA, our university goes by letter grades. I was wondering, in a transcript with both numeric and letter grades, will LSAC give preference to the letter grades in calculating my GPA or will it use its own numerical analysis for determining letter grades?

It would mean a lot to me if someone could point me in the right direction because I am somewhat scared that the discrepancy between how my university handles grades vs. how LSAC does might ruin my chances of getting into my choice of schools. :(

Regards,

Eeshan

I visited the D.C law fair yesterday and struck up a conversation with the assistant head of admissions at a t14 school, we have been emailing back and forth and i was wondering what the chances are that she will get a look at my application. What do you think? Does everyone on the board of admissions see an application?

Hi all, if anyone has gotten a merit-based fee waiver from either and feels comfortable sharing your stats (GPA and LSAT), I'd be very grateful. Thanks!

I figure that 3 safety schools and 4 semi reach schools are enough for me, what about you?

I worked at a law firm as an intern for 2 months, quit for a couple months to work retail and make money, then took on both my part time retail job along with that same internship for 2 months, was hired as a receptionist, then worked there part time as a legal assistant to focus on finishing up school.

My job duties from the beginning as an intern was essentially paralegal duties. The only things that changed as time went on were the types of cases the firm worked on and toward the end I did more attorney billables and case deadlines and my pay went up a bit.

Should I list it like

Law Firm LLP

legal assistant 8/2015 – 8/2016

receptionist 3/2015 – 8/2015

intern 8/2014 - 10/2014, 1/2015 - 3/2015

Any other ways to format this?

"Have you ever, either as an adult or a juvenile, been cited, ticketed, arrested, taken into custody, charged with, indicted, convicted or tried for, or pleaded guilty to, the commission of any felony or misdemeanor or the violation of any law, or been the subject of any juvenile delinquency or youthful offender proceeding?...Do not report parking violations."

So I was issued a speeding ticket that ended up being reduced in court to a parking violation. I'm not sure if I should report this, considering they specifically say not to report parking violations...I don't want it to come across as though I am ignoring their request to not report parking violations, but I am also not sure if the fact that I was initially issued a speeding ticket changes things.

I hear that some schools periodically admit students once applications are available and the longer you wait, the less seats available. Keeping that in mind along with my dissatisfaction with my September score, should I pursue the exam in December although I think I could perform better in February?

I graduated from my online undergraduate program roughly 5 months ago and have been in the process of finishing up my personal statement, addendum, and resume. Now I was wondering if anyone on here was an Online student at one time and what approach you think I should take in regards to getting one of those precious LOR. Just seems difficult because I have never met my previous professors other than a few emails and discussion boards.

Hi All,

BU does not accept merit-based application fee waiver requests (as they've expressed to me via email), and neither does Cornell based on my understanding from their website. They utilize your stats from CRS. However, my numbers put me in the high 75th percentile at BU and, for Cornell, my LSAT score puts me in the high 75th percentile and my GPA puts me in the 50th percentile. I don't know what these schools have determined as their range regarding who receives merit-based fee waivers, but if anyone else has further information about this, I would appreciate it. For example, has anyone received merit-based fee waivers from these schools yet and, if so, would you mind sharing your numbers or when you got the offer?

These 2 schools are the only schools who have not offered me a merit-based fee waiver with the exception of my 2 reach schools.

One professor who I took 2 classes with, never went to office hours, never really talked to him on a personal level, sent me a very enthused email saying he would gladly write a letter for me, "and a good one," because he well remembered my "excellent" performance in class. He said just send me the upload link and I dont need a resume or anything from you.*edit - he just now submitted my LOR. I asked last night and he already submitted it this morning.

Another professor who I took one class with, went to office hours, participated in class discussions, got over 95% on all the exams, talked to on a personal level (we're both from the same country)...said she would be happy to write me a letter..."I usually require a months notice so I should be able to get it submitted by December". She asked for a "statement of purpose" and for a writing sample from her class. I took her class over a year ago and the papers were all handwritten in class exams so I don't have copies.

Should I just keep asking professors until I find one who responds with similar enthusiasm as the first one? I'm worried her response asking for so many docs means she won't write a good letter...and not sure if it's a good idea to throw together a paper from my old class notes... maybe I'm reading into it too much

Hey everyone, miss me?

So I know I disappeared and a few 7sagers know why, but after a lot of thought i've decided to proceed forward with my applications for the 2018 cycle. With one caveat. I'm going to attach an addendum for my LSAT scores, particularly how I score 10 points below my practice tests on the September tests.

I've NEVER been a good standardized tester. Back in the third grade when I received my first standardized test, all of my grades began to plummet. My parents made the choice to get me tested in case there was some sort of learning disorder, and the results were a first for the testers. I didn't have a learning disability at all, I just was an auditory and kinesthetic learner who didn't test well on standardized tests. Essays, short answers and written answers I nailed but anything bubbling was not enough to keep me engaged. I've learned lots of testing strategies over the years, but none of them were designed to help with the LSAT. If you followed the September LSAT Saga, it was a very stressful situation from start to finish and I'm positive that negatively DESTROYED my score.

I have no idea how to even write an addendum, let alone include most of that in an appropriate way.

Any tips?

I'm realizing I need to add an edit: This particular score was extremely low as I was in Florida during Hurricane Irma. My testing center closed down, and after financial pressures I caught a cheap flight to DC to do the test there. Not only was this my second time taking the test, I was also coping with serious family upheaval. The hurricane had flooded my grandparents home where I had to conduct an emergency rescue to get them out. They also were living with us at this point. A bit TMI but the stress was beyond normal stress.

OK, I graduated from college almost 20 years ago. I have not worked in 3 years, I have been a stay at home mom. So, who can I ask to write my letter of recommendation? I'm not particularly involved with any group or church. I feel pretty sidelined for not being as outgoing or active in my community. I don't know about suddenly joining groups just to make some contacts to get that oh so needed letter. From what I hear, it's still pretty necessary to have at least 2 letters. Any help would be appreciated.

Hi everyone,

This is a question for everyone who is taking the December/February LSAT, but is submitting applications before then:

I'm planning on submitting my applications this week but am unsure of how to proceed with the "Standardized Test" page. Currently, I have my September LSAT score listed with another entry for December listed below, but with no score. Is this the right move or should I exclude December altogether? I want to be very clear with schools that I'm retaking in December as I plan to increase my score to get a scholarship (a necessity for me). What do you guys think is the best way to fill out this page?

Also, my current understanding is that schools can tell if you are registered for a future LSAT date without you explicitly telling them and that they will usually wait to evaluate you until those scores are released. If this is incorrect, please let me know.

I've been self employed for 6 years. I've noticed some schools want LOR's from employers. Should I get them from my old employers. They would willingly write them but im 6 years or more out and seems kind of pointless? Also lol at getting them from professors I'm 15 years out of college. I have a federal judge and several lawyers that have offered to write LORS for me. Will this suffice considering my circumstances?

Hi all,

I've been working as a real estate law clerk for the past two years and although I kind of accidentally fell into real estate (I graduated in journalism) I actually really enjoy it.

I'm finishing up my law school applications (due Nov 1. in Canada) and in one of my personal statements I've stated outright that I know I wanted to become a real estate lawyer.

Could stating this hurt my application in any way? I may be overthinking this, but I keep thinking that someone who reads my essay might think I won't pay attention or do my best in other areas of law during school since I know real estate law is what I want to practice.

Help!

Hey everyone,

So I have a pretty simple question and I have a feeling there's an obvious answer, but I'm stumped so I figured I'd ask the experts. As schools are emailing/mailing us literature and information about their respective law schools, some are also including unsolicited application fee waivers as well. Some are codes we have to enter on websites (i.e. Temple), but most are through LSAC when we actually apply.

Is there a page on our LSAC accounts where we can go to see all the schools that have sent us fee waivers or do we have to sort through our emails/letters or check and see each one individually during "checkout" of applications?

Thanks!

Hi all!

I was planning on attending the LSAC Forum next weekend but since I am not applying until this time next year, would it be more beneficial to meet admissions people at fairs next year? I feel like it would place me more at an advantage to have a conversation with them when I am applying because they actually might remember me if I (hopefully) made a good impression. Are there any perks to meeting admissions people a year before you apply?

Hello!

I have a question for this wonderful community. Does it work against prospective law students to take time off after college?

If I take the LSAT in June 2018 and start in the fall of 2019, I'll have taken 2 years "off." I'm concerned because I worked for an attorney who told me it wasn't good for my application to take time off. He said people who do take time off usually hold prestigious positions, e.g., in politics, before they attend law school and that has helped them get into top schools. I've got a a decent resume and a very high undergrad GPA. But I'm taking time off because I want to do very well on the LSAT. What do you all think?

I was cruising through some applications today filling out the odds and ends, and saw at least 1 app that said it required you to submit parental financial information with the FAFSA. Yikes... is this common?

As a 33 year old non-traditional student, this seems patently absurd. I really don't want to involve my parents in this process. And as a very grown, very independent person, it seems crazy that they would want my parents' info. And also extremely unfair if they want to consider my parents' finances into this whole thing. (FWIW, they're definitely not wealthy, but also can a school really expect a 33 year old to have their parents be responsible for school funding?)

I have no idea what to do. I really don't want to write this school off, but I really don't feel like including my parents' info on the FAFSA is reasonable or honestly something I could even get them to do. Thoughts? Commiseration? Sigh.

Hi all!

I know the advice is to have a professional style email address for use in admissions. But what counts as professional? For many years I've used a hotmail account which is simply my first and last name @ hotmail.com

Is that suitable? Or should I be ditching hotmail after all these years?

Hello everyone!

I am a foreign attorney and since I'm planning to live in the States, I want to have a J.D. My dream is to go to a Top 15 Law School, but since I don't know if I'll be able to get the score (My highest score was 164 this week, but I've been averaging 161 the past month), I have considered applying to both LLMs (in which LSAT is not required) and JDs. That way my chances of being admitted to a top 15 would increase. But lately, I've been having serious doubts and I would like to hear other opinions regarding the following options:

-Would it be better to have a Master's from a really good school like Harvard or Yale and then transfer to another school (not every school accepts LLM to JD transfers), or would it be better to be admitted to a top 25 school JD program, and then trying to transfer on the 2L to an even better school?

-Do you think that it would be counterproductive to apply to both the LLM and JD program within the same school? Let's take for example Columbia, which is my dream school. In case I don't get admitted to a JD program, I could still get admitted to the LLM. But I am afraid that the admissions council would think that I am just applying in a "volume" format, trying to send as many applications as I can or that they might say "Well he has a good JD profile, but he would definitely be a better fit to our LLM program".

Does anyone know someone that has applied to both programs?

Since I am planning to spend a lot of money on application fees (crying), I really want to make the correct decision. Moreover, the deadline for the LLM programs is December 15th, which means that I won't have my LSAT score by then.

Please feel free to comment and share your thoughts since I am really looking for help!

Hey All,

If my graduating GPA was a [] and I received summa cum laude at graduation, but my LSAC GPA is a [] (darn you high school college courses...and I also transferred from a university where my GPA was a bit lower), should I indicate summa cum laude on my resume? I'm having a hard time figuring out how to present my GPA in general, considering the drastic difference between my graduating GPA and my LSAC GPA...Should I indicate both? I was originally planning on leaving my GPA off, considering they have my transcripts, but 7Sage's admissions course recommends adding your GPA unless your GPA is horrendous.

Thanks.

Hi 7sage after a year away! I was going to apply last year but a few big things took me away from the process & I'm coming back for this year.

I'd love to swap PSs for a peer review with someone else returning after significant time away (>7 years.) I'm in my mid-30s and my PS is necessarily covering why do this now; I'm curious to know how you are handling it and also curious how you're efficiently summarizing your road to date.

Anybody? Let's do this!

Hello everyone,

I'm struggling a bit with this question. It is a Necessary Assumption question, and when I read it, I thought I had identified the assumption. I thought "To be considered a planet, a celestial body could not have formed in orbit around another planet". The question that seemed must appropriate was E, which stated kind of the same but worded out differently (And it was actually the correct answer). What threw me off about E was the last part of the AC "It must have formed around the sun exclusively". The stimulus never refers to he sun, nor to this solar system specifically. It just says "Pluto is not a Planet, because it formed around Neptune". Maybe, if the AC said "for a celestial body to me considered a true planet within our solar system, it must have formed in orbit around the sun exclusively", it would've made more sense to me. What threw me off is that there could be other unknown ways in which a celestial body is formed in other solar systems that do not involve "the sun" (taken that "the sun" is exclusively the only star that is within our solar system and not other stars). What if a celestial body in another solar system also is considered a planet because it was formed in orbit around their star/sun? Then that celestial body would not be considered a planet according to answer choice E.

Any help is appreciated!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-66-section-4-question-17/