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Hi all,

I've decided to delay my exam to the October 3, 2020 test date in hopes of improving my timing and score -- currently PT-ing in high 140s/low 150s and BR-ing in high 150s, goal score is 165. What are some timing tips to close the real PT/BR gap for LR and RC? I've been BR-ing and drilling on non-PT days, and have seen improvement in my BR, 3-4 point BR gain, in the last couple of weeks but can't seem to improve my actual timed exam score (stuck in low 150s!!).

Second, how have you been studying with 1-2 months left? Drilling your weak areas? How many PT's do you take each week? I've found that taking 2 exams per week (in addition to drilling) is adequate to get a full BR + review of each exam without feeling burnt out but I'm not sure if I'm doing too much/little. If you take more PTs, are you splitting up sections and taking those separately instead of full PTs?

I thought it'd be important to note I'm fortunate enough to have been able to take this summer off in order to study for this exam full-time, but since I'm delaying the test until October I'll be getting a part-time job soon. I'd appreciate any advice or tips you have!

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Hi everyone,

I was wondering if any one could please clarify this phrase on the LSAT Flex FAQ page. It says:

Q: What electronic devices are prohibited?

A: "One cell phone is allowed for use as a mirror during check-in as instructed by your proctor, but it must be turned off and put away as instructed by the proctor before the test begins. Additional cell phones are prohibited."

https://www.lsac.org/update-coronavirus-and-lsat/lsat-flex

I was wondering what exactly "use as a mirror during check-in" mean? Does this mean that it's mandatory for me to bring my cell phone to my desk? (I was planning to turn it off & put it away long before the test starts for peace of mind, but now I'm not sure whether I need to have it with me and also have it turned on at the beginning of the test? Seems rather odd.)

Also, what is a "check-in"???

I'd be much grateful if anyone could please provide any clarification on this. Thank you in advance!

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Hi everyone,

I have been studying for a while now, and I fluctuate a lot, I score high and then low, I just need someone to give me guidance on what I'm doing wrong or I might just lose my head.

I'm currently unemployed so I'm looking for more affordable options, also I don't know how much tutoring I need, but I do need someone to evaluate my approach and point out to my weaknesses that I can't seem to pick up on.

Thank you!

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Has anyone taken a flex test on an iPad? I’m sitting the August test and have heard of some issues with MacBook Air. I’ve never experienced any issues with digital PT’s on the iPad and am mostly worried about a slow down with ProctorU.

Thank you!

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Hi guys, so I will be applying October and have decided that I am done with the LSAT. My dream law school has always been BU Law. With that being said, would consider going to a higher ranked school such as USC, UT, UCLA, etc.

LSAT: 167

GPA: 3.54 (Was in the hospital senior year and my gpa tanked)

Would BU be a reach school or target school. If my GPA is below 25% but LSAT is over 50% where would that put a school?

Also where does this put me with scholarships?

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Hello! I’m slated to take the August LSATFlex, and wanted to see from anyone who has taken the Flex or otherwise how I can best mimic the testing conditions for Flex? I want to mimic testing conditions as close as possible so as not to be unnecessarily thrown off on test day.

I’m thinking of taking the second LR section in a PT on 7Sage (by looking it up beforehand) as a warmup drill the day before, and then just doing the three sections one after the other immediately the following day. Any other thoughts? Thank you so much in advance!

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Hello!

I am signed up for the Aug 29th test date. How do I know if my test is 'flex'? I don't believe I selected the flex option.

Should I be practicing taking the test with a mask now so I am comfortable and used to it then?

How have testing conditions changed?

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Does anyone have a strategy for the LSAT flex? I was just going to skip one of the LR sections when taking the test. Then go back and do it after I finish the test. Does anyone know if 7Sage is working on a flex option?

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Hi, I'm not sure if anyone has ever experience this before, but is it possible to defer law school by a year and during that one-year deferral, apply for JD/MBA? I was supposed to attend Penn Law this coming fall, but I'm thinking of deferring and applying for MBA during my one-year deferral (goal is to do 3 year JD/MBA program)...if anyone has any input, that would be much appreciated! Thanks!

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Curious what everyone is using in conjunction with 7Sage? I am steadily making my way through all of the lessons but feel as though I need a bit more reinforcement. What does everyone reccomend that has made the biggest difference in terms of score gain?

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Hi all. I just signed up and entered my answers for a test I had already completed on Lawhub. I then went through that full test again on Lawhub, blind review style. How do I enter my blind review results? Currently it just says my blind is the same as my score. Thanks for the help!

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July Flex sucked lol

Started off the test with the proctorU persons password not working and didn’t get the password for 40 min so I just sat there. Then the session disconnected 2x during the actual test and had to reshow all my stuff and go through that process again. I’m worried if I should cancel my score BC I don’t feel very good about it, or just suck it up bc I’m prob only taking it 2 more times anyways...thoughts?

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Hi everyone! I just took the July flex (my first time). It felt good overall (not terrible, not great) and I went into the exam assuming I would register for the August flex as well. However, now that I've thought about it does it make more sense to not do August and potentially register for October?

August deadline to register is July 15th, but July flex results don't come out until July 30th leaving me in kind of a limbo until the end of July. If I register now for August and I end up being happy with my July score then I'm out $150. I guess I'm just wondering if there's a general rule of thumb to not register for your next exam until you get your results back?

Background info: Aiming for 170+ and have been scoring between 168-178 in recent PTs (all over I know :/). I'm a teacher so I will be two weeks into the school year for August test and a month+ for October. I want to apply relatively early to be considered for merit scholarships so I don't know if October is too late to take it?

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First time posting here, I just bought the 7Sage Course. So I started prepping for the LSAT two months ago using the LSAT Trainer, and I noticed after my 4th PT test that my score hasn't changed much at all--it went from 151 to 155 to 156 to 153 today. But, I blind review'ed my LR section today and scored a -1 while in the realtime test I scored -9 for that section. Does this mean I improved? Why is it that during real time tests, I am performing so much worse? Is a two-month time period too short to expect improvement?

I'm feeling rather lost and down--I'd appreciate any tips or insights you guys can share...Thanks guys.

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Does anybody have suggestions on how to study for the last 50 days before test day. I've been studying 3-4 hrs a day everyday following my syllabus. When I finish with the program which will be within the next two weeks what should I do. Besides PT, does anyone have recommendations on a good physical book I can buy for extra studying materials?

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So I have a PC, and with no built in microphone. What I'm wondering is if I'm able to use my headphones(Arctis5) to speak with the proctor and then just put it down during the test? How much do I really need to speak with the proctor during the test? And do they tell me stuff through voicechat? Or can it be done by chatting? Thanks.

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Dear fellow 7Sagers,

I've taken the LSAT three times now. I took it cold in 2017 June (PT 81) without every seeing an LSAT material and got a 151 (stupid, I know). I never touched the LSAT again until 2020 where I took it in May (169) and in June (171). However, these are below my PT average of 173. My section averages can be RC -1 to -3, LR -1 to -3, and LG -0.

The problem that I've noticed in the LSAT is struggling in section while doing great in the other two. In May, I felt like I aced the RC and LG but then in the LR, I somehow forgot how to read and had 8 flags before time ran out. In June, I felt like I killed LG and LR but was completely destroyed by the prescriptive vs descriptive and especially the sunken ships passages in the RC.

My question is that how can I ensure that I am able to perform in all sections regardless of difficulty? I usually don't run into this issue in my PTs. Is this a common issue during a take? I've done almost every PT above 50 and drilled 10-49 during the CC and warm-up drills.

I'm taking the August Flex for my 4th time in order to hit my average or above. Thank you for your time.

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Hey 7Sagers-

There are a fair number of discussions about doing untimed section drills or untimed full PTs, but not one with some consolidation of purpose, goals, best practices. I know there is apprehension about wasting PTs, not to mention some old forum posts including lines like, "No untimed PT's. No untimed sections. Not even once."

I've currently stalled in my progression a bit from going from CC to timed PT w/ BR. I'm going to start doing some untimed section drills and/or untimed full PTs, but want to make sure I have everything straight.

My questions remaining are:

  • There seems to be some varying opinion over whether you should only move on from untimed questions when you are at 100% certainty or move on at your "natural pace," and leaving the unlimited timed section for blind review.
  • Is there a benefit to doing a full PT untimed or do people find doing sections most effective?
  • I went through a handful of tests about a year ago. Should those be at the top of the list for untimed sections, or should they be completely fresh?
  • For people with Ultimate+, do you use PTs1-35 for untimed section/PT drills or keep it to the 30s-50s?
  • If your Blind Review is at or just under your goal score, is this an effective approach to lift your timed score? (Especially if you have not done any untimed sections.)
  • Without further ado, here is what I found in the webinars and forums.

    If I have misrepresented anything, or you have additional insights, I would love to have them.

    What: When 7Sagers refer to untimed section drills, it means taking a full section of a PT without the time pressure, but finding a natural pace. This does not mean taking all of the time in the world like you may with Blind Review. You will likely be over time at the end of the section. The idea is that you can work at being more efficient later, but you need practice to get the score up without the arbitrary time pressure.

    When: In the Post Core Curriculum webinar, Sage Josh says these are great for Phase 1 where your blind review is under your target score, but leaves the door open to this being helpful in Phase 2 as well.

    Purpose: @"Cant Get Right" Untimed work is really great for learning the fundamentals. Once you've got each section where you need to be, it's time to work on strategy... Before you master these elements [for example: conditional reasoning] of the test, taking timed sections isn't going to be very productive." Discussion

    @AllezAllez21 I think untimed work is so critical. You could do the occasional untimed section if you wanted a variety of LR questions to deeply study. Or you could maybe be focusing on a particular process for LR (like really identify the flaw, or the conclusion, or something that is pretty universal to LR questions).

    For LR, I would just do deep dives on your weaknesses, untimed. That could be by question type, it could be "lawgic" or maybe argument structure. Discussion

    @Ohnoeshalpme: Following a deep understanding of these errors and a correction through untimed drilling, speed and accuracy will come naturally. Discussion

    Sample Study Schedule with Untimed Section Drills: s/o @kimpg_66 Discussion

    Once I had fool proofed (took over a month), I started drilling and PTing. My schedule was:

    Monday: 1 LR and LG section

    Tuesday: 1 LR and RC section

    Wednesday: 1 full PT/blind review

    Thursday: 1 LR and RC section

    Friday: 1 LR and LG section

    Saturday: 1 full PT/blind review

    I used all of PTs 40-52 for these section drills. I started out doing each section untimed, underlining the keywords in LR with a highlighter and writing a line # for where I had pinpointed the answer for RC. I would take 15+ minutes on each RC passage at first, and 45+ on LR. I figured it was better to get the basics and concepts down to a science before I moved on to timed. Eventually, I started timing my sections.

    Thanks to those who have unwittingly supplied information to this thread and anyone who can provide additional insights.

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