I start off the test performing well with a clear mind, and usually go -0 to -3 on the 1st and 2nd section. Yet when I get to the 3rd section, I feel like I'm not as focused, my mind isn't as clear. And this reflects itself in my score on that section, this usually effects me more on LR because the tricky questions do require a bit more concentration. When I'm fatigued I tend to go -7 on LR, it's like I can't concentrate on the questions deeply like I could during the 1st and 2nd sections. When I go to BR I bring it from -7 to at least -2, I really do think it's an issue of concentration and not boredom/distracted.

I plan to take 8 sections of LR with 15min after the 4th one. Do you guys think this will help? Or should I just take two four section PTs back to back with 15min in between instead? I'm trying to use my time more efficiently, and right now my core issue is being clear headed/not fatigued right at the 3rd section. I've read @"Seeking Perfection" recommend taking two PTs with 15min in between them. I don't have a problem with burn out at all, only loss of concentration/fatigue.

Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone can guide me to a proper game plan working toward the September test.

A little back story...

I took a summer class with Blueprint two years ago hoping to take the September 2016 test. However, it ended up not being feasible with all that I was involved with at school so I decided to push it off a year and focused on keeping my GPA up (graduated 3.74).

Despite EVERYONE advising not to take the LSAT unless I'm 100% ready, I took the September 2017 test while I was in Korea dealing with a family situation (too long to desc on here). With about 1.5 months of studying, I ended up with a 160 after a week or two of PTing around 165-168.

Fast forward to this year, I've come back from a year in Korea dealing with the family stuff... pretty ready to tackle the LSAT for September. I took a new diagnostic with June 2007 since I've not touched anything LSAT related after that test and what do you know, a 160 (LR:-12, RC:-8, LG:-3).

So now I'm kind of confused as to where to go from here. I’m planning on studying full time btw. I clearly struggle with RC, and miss many of the difficult questions in LR, but I feel it might be too time consuming to go through the fundamentals again? Would you recommend that I jump into drilling the harder questions or is that essentially a fundamentals issue and I definitely should go through the CC?

My top choice is Columbia, but I'm not even certain it's possible by September. I was just hoping to maximize my chances by applying early but am considering pushing back if I see potential.

Sorry for the super long post, but as you can tell, I'm a little eager to end this LSAT journey and get to law school. If you have ANY advice for someone like me, I'd really appreciate it and it'll really help my anxiety. Thank you for reading this far!

How do you pre-phrase correctly? I notice that when I get an answer wrong and I look at someone else pre-phrase that they was right on. I tried the pre-phrasing but mines are nothing close to what JY or others are coming up with. I can spot the conclusion and premise and I try mixing them together and still ending up missing the point with the pre-phrase

Word around town is that the July exam is going to be one of those exams that LSAC pulls out of the vault from several years ago, so doing PTs 75-83 might not be the best way to prepare for it.

Curious as to how far back yall are going in the PTs?

Personally don't think they're gonna go back too far so I'm doing pts 60-70.

I was thinking about taking the GRE. Not for law school but for potential joint degree programs. Is anyone else here studying for the GRE? If so, can you recommend any prep courses? Thanks!

I took the past Dec and Feb test to squeeze into this past cycle. Did ok but knew I left so many points and law schools on the table.

I decided to retake the LSAT in July. I feel waaaay more prepared this time. However, because full refunds are offered to July takers who keep their scores, I decided to sign up for the Sept LSAT as insurance. It was only intended as insurance for if something weird happened on my July LSAT day, I'd have another option to take it and still apply early. If July went well, then I'd just cancel Sept and get a full refund (not just the $50).

But knowing even a difference of 2 extra points could have a huge impact of schools and financial aid, I'm now just thinking of taking it in regardless of what happens in July (although a 172 or higher I would cancel). This would mean taking it a 4th time vs. a 3rd time. However, at this point I don't think there is a real difference, especially if I could do better. Am I wrong to think this? Thanks.

Hi all, just feeling a little frustrated today. I'm taking the July LSAT, and today's PT came out 3 points lower than my last one. I also haven't been doing as hot on some other sections in the past few days.

Part of me knows that it's just an off day, and these things fluctuate, and it's about the overall picture, not the individual data points. But at the same time, I'm feeling really annoyed and frustrated. How do you all get back from off days like that? Or, alternatively, should I actually be concerned?

For anyone who has taken a video of themselves doing a time LSAT, how do you transfer such a large file from your phone to your computer so that you can view the footage in detail? I tried uploading to YouTube but it's forcing it to be 240p since it's such a large file.

Anyone have a better method for iPhone?

After finishing the CC and taking various separate sections over the course of June, I took my first full timed test today and hit a 160. I went -17 LR, -7 games, -5 RC (the test had a -14 curve luckily) With my target score being a 166, what is the likelihood of me hitting this by the July 23 test? Also, any recommendations on how I should best approach this goal? Thanks for the insight.

Hey guys!

So I'm worried that I may have not done well on the June 2018 lsat, but I didn't cancel. I really do want to see how I did. If I study and significantly improve on the November 2018 LSAT, does anyone know of a really bad past test score negatively affecting admission into a tier 2 law school like St Johns or Brooklyn? I know a lot of people are saying that I should have canceled, but wouldn't the law schools like to see a significant improvement to showcase your willingness to work harder and not give up?

I really want to start this year so I emailed the school of choice (buffalo) to see if they’d take my july exam. It’s my first score. Here’s what they said: just didn’t know if you guys had any thoughts if I’d have a shot or not. Like if spots are filled etc. I have a meeting Monday. Thanks!

Thank you for your email. July LSAT scores are expected to be released on or around August 10, which is just 10 (or so) days before mandatory orientation and just 11 days before 1L classes begin (LAWR). While it's technically possible for us to accept the July LSAT, you would need to be prepared, if admitted, to begin law school in about a week's time. If you are interested in applying with the July LSAT, I encourage you to schedule a short phone call with Dean Lindsay Gladney to discuss in greater detail.

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Hi All,

When you take your practice tests do you use the distractions on the proctor tool? I began using it this practice test on a level 3 volume, and it sounded like the person next to me was tearing up their test page by page! I know some people have had bad experiences when taking the test as far as distractions, but is it generally as bad as the distraction tool on the app? My testing environment before was subject to occasional interruptions from outside my apartment or my dog, but after I began using the app's distractions, my score tanked 5 points.

I suppose prepare for the worst hope for the best?

What would you do?

Hey everyone for rc did you use older passages for drilling ? (Under pt 50 ). I’ve seen discussions saying they are too different to be useable . Thanks

Hey everyone- with the ultimate I have up to pt 72 for the explanations. I also want access to the more recent pts. Should I purchase a few individually ? Upgrade my package ? I also need to renew my account as well.

Hi 7sagers,

So I just had a pretty disappointing performance on LG and I am starting to get worried about my ability to improve my score by September. I spent the last month or so fool-proofing LG and I just took PT 32 timed and scored a -8 in LG. To put that in perspective, I scored a -8 on LG 1 month ago (before i started really fool-proofing). This means that across 25ish PT's worth of games I found no (consistent) improvement. Across the first 30 PT's my best score for a section was -2, but that's very rare for me. On average I'd guess that my LG score is something like -5 for a section. I'm starting to think that I need to start fool-proofing over from the beginning again.

Additionally, despite the fact that I have completed the CC, my LR scores are around -6/-7 per section and my RC is at -10. This puts my PT average, accounting for variance, somewhere between 158 and 161 with a BR score of 172-174. If I want to improve to a 170 by September, what do I need to do to have the best shot? Is a 9-12 point improvement in this situation unrealistic for two months? Should I restart fool-proofing until i'm consistently -3 or better? Should I start working more on RC since i'm losing about 10 points per section in this area? Should I still be taking a PT every Saturday?

I would really appreciate any feedback about similar situations or any advice that you all can give me. I don't expect anyone to answer all of these questions but I'd like to put it out there as this is a pretty big personal let-down.

Thanks

Hi all - I'm curious if others have opinions on the regional differences (or similarities) in BigLaw culture/work-life balance. I work at a BigLaw firm in Minneapolis, and have noticed that very few attorneys work the extreme hours that characterize the BigLaw environments of NY, CA, etc. I've heard that the Midwestern BigLaw lifestyle is much more relaxed, and am wondering if anyone could speak to BigLaw in other regions of the US (the south, Florida, Southwest, Northeast outside of New York, etc.). I would happy working in a BigLaw environment that emulates my firm, but not a BigLaw environment like in NY.

Hi everyone! The webinar is up here: https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/webinar/

Update

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We'll probably do another webinar July 10, 11, or 12. Until then!

To enter the edit giveaway lottery:

7Sagers,

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Zoom might prompt you to download something before you can join the webinar, so I’d advise you to show up a bit early on Wednesday.

Hope to talk to you there!

I've been struggling to find ways to work on questions before watching the CC videos,

and just realized I can print out all the prep tests... all the hours I spent on screenshots...

I started 7sage with a 138, and I have done every preptest, until preptest 79. Drum roll please... 161! I'm still 4 points under my goal, of 165. I hope there is still some improvement before the july test. Reading comp is my weakness, especially the science passages.

This is my first post on this forum, so hello everyone!

I've been studying for a while now and as I was drilling LG today I couldn't help but wonder:

Are the pages on the actual LSAT double sided for the LG section?

I'm asking because I often find that I have to re-copy my master diagram if the pages are double sided, since going back and forth between pages to look at my diagram is highly inefficient.

On the other hand, if the section is single sided, there would be no need to re-copy the original diagram.

It's a minor concern, but I'm wondering because it could potentially save 30 seconds per game. I also want to be able to practice as effectively as possible.

Thanks!

Hey 7sagers hope everyone is well , the lsat seems to trigger a lot students , myself included . I know jy says in the cc to get in the habit of meditating . The calm app is a great free resource that you can get from the App Store. It has guided meditations/ nature music / masterclasses / sleep function . Try to get into the routine of daily meditations if that works for you (it has helped me tremendously) Hope this helps !! Feel free to add suggestions on staying calm and collected while prepping and during the lsat

Hello, I previously bought the LSAT starter course in the UK and it worked fine, I'm trying to buy the advanced course now and suddenly it says 7sage is not available in the UK. Is this a glitch or has it suddenly been region locked for some reason? please help! I love 7sage!

can someone please explain to me the purpose of this column when reviewing answers. I see that it has a drop down arrow and when clicked little boxes appear but what is the point/ what are we suppose to do with them

Hey Everyone,

I took the LSAT last June and scored a 165 by studying with 7sage. My initial plan was to wait one year, and then apply for a few Canadian law schools.

However, I'm now interested in applying for NYU, Columbia, or Chicago and want to raise my score to 170. Ideally, I'd like to rewrite the LSAT in September.

Does anyone have any tips about:

Thanks!

how does one successfully/ correctly blind review?