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Hi! I finished the core curriculum about 2 weeks ago and have taken 2 PT's since (36 and 37). For 36, I took it after a full day of work at the end of the week (which was dumb, but I had a busy weekend and wanted to get the test over with!) and could feel myself taking longer to think and not having enough time for some sections. As a result I wasn't super bummed to get a score only a few points higher than my diagnostic back in Feb. However, with 37, I took it early in the morning before work and felt pretty good about it, only to find that I got a point lower than I did on 36. I know two PTs isn't much data to work with, but I'm feeling pretty discouraged and was wondering if anyone else did worse/the same before they got better. I have no idea how many PTs it takes before you see consistent improvement and would love to hear from others. FWIW I'm not taking the test until September so I have some time, but was still really hoping to see noticeable improvement after finishing the curriculum and taking my first few PTs with all that new knowledge.

Should I pause on taking more PTs and go back to the curriculum to review more? Or keep plugging along on PTs and Blind Review?

Edit--thank you all for the in-depth comments and pointers, I feel much better about where I'm at!

I was wondering if every feels exhaustive a month or so into the studying process?

I feel as if as I learn more it gets more confusing and sometimes i miss the basic things.

Is this normal and will things settle into place as the studying goes on?

Or should I be constantly drilling concepts.

I am BRing 172-174 (my target score), but on my timed PTs, I am scoring between 159-163. There's about a month left till the June LSAT. I have registered for it, but re-considering if I should take it yet, or wait till September.

The thing stopping me from taking it in September is I have kids who will be home during the summer break, which means I will barely get quiet time to study for the next couple of months. And, I will start working in August too. However, for the next month I have no work, and kids in school, meaning about 5-6 hours of study time everyday till June 11.

I guess, my question boils down to, how long does it usually take for people to get from their actual score to their BR score? What are some strategies (feel free to suggest webinars or discussion links) that I can use to increase accuracy in timed condition?

Apparently, LSAC just instituted fee increases and they are bananas. LSAT is now $190, test center and date change fees are $125, CAS registration is $195 and the doozy - CAS reports are now $45 (up from $35).

https://www.lsac.org/jd/applying-to-law-school/lsat-cas-fees?view=1

I am a little confused about questions in which a scientist/critic/psychologist/whatever will state their opinion on something, often giving context and then their own argument. Then the question stem will ask "The scientist's argument proceeds by..."

A good example of this is Question 20 from PT 68 section 3. I missed this question in timed conditions and in BR, seemingly because I just misunderstood what it was asking me to look for. I took "proceeds by" to mean what comes before the actual argument, so the context, and I selected answer choice E, even though JY just breezes past this one in the explanation video. Now I see that my brain tricked me into thinking the question was actually "precedes by" rather than "proceeds by."

I am certain I have come across similarly worded questions before, though I don't think they are super common. When I do encounter these questions, are they just asking me about the structure of the argument ?

Ink is so expensive. For fool proofing LG, how many copies do you print out? I heard about this method an earlier member posted about for proofing LG that saved a lot of paper, does anyone know what I am talking about?

Thanks

Is anyone else using this? I kind of want to see what others think of it, and I know it's a really small beta so this may be a shot in the dark but....yeah anyone want to chat about this?

Hey, all! So I have sort of a weird question.

Right now I'm in my last semester of university and I'm currently working two jobs while going to class full time. While I love my jobs, there are a lot of downtime in between them where I'm stuck with nothing to do. Since I can't exactly have my laptop with me or any real studying sources (it will look like I'm not working), is there some way to still "practice" the LSAT somehow? Thank you, all!

Just want to give @studentservice a big thank you for solving my printing and computer issues that I've had for the past 5 days or so!!! I have never had such technical issues before and it was blowing my mind how I could not print anything! They figured it out and I'm back running!!!

If you ever have tech issues, @studentservice has got your back!!! Thank you!!!

I am about to begin purchasing books for my 1L classes. I have noticed that many books are available in E-book format. Which format would be better for law school, paperback or E-book?

Hi all:

So I'm currently experience a bit of a loss of a sense of direction, post (completing) the core curriculum. I finished about a month ago and immediately began fullproofing afterwards. I definitely think it's helped a lot, especially with getting me more comfortable with LG (my weakest section). I took a break from FP a week ago in order to dodge burnout, and began reviewing LR lessons from CC in preparation for PT'ing. I'm planning to officially kickoff PT'ing this weekend. In your experience, would you say where I'm headed is a good idea, or, would you recommend I do otherwise---if so, please share. (*Note: I haven't taken any PT since completing the CC and FPing for ~ a month)

Thanks in advance!

Hello Everyone,

I realize when I read that my mind is on everything else but what I'm reading. I would read the RC passage and then noticed that I picked up on bits and pieces. How do you all combat that?

Fellow 7Sagers,

I’m in a rut and would appreciate any advice/input on how to best go about studying for the LSAT as well as deal with other issues (see below).

Plan of attack

I thought that if I started studying for the June LSAT in February I would be fine . . . until I actually started studying for the LSAT. My original plan was to start with the Trainer in February, take a face to face course that would lead up to the exam, take the exam, score in the high 160’s and be on my way to the school of my dreams . . . I clearly didn’t know what I was doing or thinking.

I’ve since adjusted my plan of attack to something more realistic. Currently, I am holding off on finishing the 7Sage CC since I started the in-person course, but plan on revisiting and finishing after I take the exam in June. I was hoping to start doing PT’s with the September group, but think that I should join the December or February group instead. Thoughts?

Diagnostic test

I started studying with the LSAT Trainer a few months ago, took a diagnostic test under non-test day conditions (in a coffee shop w/ distractions) and finished each section within the allotted time. I did poorly, but I finished. I stopped using the trainer and switched to 7Sage a few days later and started the CC. All was great, but I stopped at weakening arguments and decided to take a break since the in-person prep course I signed up for was two weeks away. I started the course this past Saturday, took another diagnostic under test day conditions, and did horrible! Although some of the sections were easier to understand because I covered them in the CC, I did not finish all the sections in time, did not guess on questions I wasn’t able to get to, and found myself overanalyzing everything. J.Y. said something early in the course that really stuck with me and it is that honesty is the best policy if you want to perform well on this test. I figured that it was in my best interest to save the guessing for test day, review only what I did answer, and learn what I don’t know. Is that the right approach?

Bad days

Who do you vent to after a bad PT or study session, excluding 7Sagers, and how do you get back on track mentally? Is there an LSAT emotional support group that I should know about?! Lol

Thank you all in advance for your willingness to help.

Best,

K

Does anyone here know any good tricks/skills I should develop as a tactile learner for the LSAT? I know I need to take a lot of breaks, and honestly resetting often helps me focus on my objective, however, besides that and flash cards, which I still have to memorize, are there any other tricks you all recommend?

After about 1.5 years of studying and working FT, I've managed to get average of -3/-4 in every section, consistently. (RC :-4, LR: -3/-4, LG: -4). Averaging around 166/167 and hoping to hit 170 by July. I fool proofed games from PT 15-35 and have taken PT36 - PT 83 at least once each. I don't really believe PT 15 and below hold much value, as the test has changed so drastically since 1995, but I may be mistaken. What is the best plan of attack for increasing my score by those last few points? Any advice and recommendations are greatly appreciated!

I've been thinking of upgrading to Ultimate Plus after finishing the CC. What did you guys do?

I applied this year but did not get the results/LSAT score I was hoping for. I was thinking about quitting my job so I can full focus on the LSAT. I currently work at a consulting firm focused on litigation and the hours and the amount of networking/office politics is exhausting.

My question is, if I quit, would that look terrible on my resume when I reapply? I was here for two years, and was at a finance firm for a year before that. What do yall think? Am I overthinking?

So I recently got approved for extra time on the LSAT, and I was wondering if anyone with 50% extra time is willing to private message me tips on how they endure to the end. I took a 5 section practice test 2 days ago and only made it half way through section 4 before my brain completely died on me. By that time 4 hours had passed, and I honestly couldn't take anymore. I think I got an ok score for a first attempt under the new time conditions, but I know I have at least another 8 points in me. Plus since I have to do the experimental section, I cant take the chance of not making it to section 5. Any advice would be appreciated!

Hello 7sagers,

I am currently waitlisted at my first choice law school. I visited the school in March and met with the assistant director of admission. She and I had a great conversation when I visited the school- I told her why I wanted to go to this law school and that I took the lsat a couple times to get a score that satisfied the school's requirement etc. She told me to keep in touch, and we've emailed each other maybe three times since.

I had already sent her my LOCI in April when I found out about being on the wait list, and she told me via email that the school will start reaching out to the wait list candidates in early May. I'm a little nervous I haven't heard anything yet.

Should I send her another LOCI sometime this week? I don't know if sending another LOCI would be too much? My lsat score meets the school's range, but my GPA is slightly lower (GPA- 3.3). I wanted to explain this situation to the school?

I worked as a TV reporter a week after graduating from college. I spent majority of my junior and my senior years of college working with various tv stations to work on my audition reels because I thought working as a TV journalist was the only thing I wanted to do. I also worked part time jobs to pay for books, etc in my junior year. So my focus in college was to obtain multiple, various internships instead of trying to make all A's in my classes (but now, I wish I had).

I'm wondering if I should send an additional short LOCI (one page) explaining my GPA? The assistant director told me in March when I visited that my LSAT score met the school's range but that my GPA was slightly low. So, I'm thinking my GPA is probably the big reason why I was put on the wait list, and that's why I wanted to see if it might be a good idea to send an additional LOCI sometime this week? Or, is this sending a second LOCI too much?

Thank you all for your time reading this. I'm getting anxious, and I wanted to seek your advice.

I really blew a PT this week. Like.. 6 points off bad. But my BR is staying high. Does this seem to happen to others very often? For reference, it has been a really rough week between school and finals posting, car issues, etc. Thinking maybe I should forget it since the BR was still great and move on... Thoughts?

Hey Everyone!

I just walked over to my study desk and had one of those moments where looking at it made me feel so happy. I just couldn't resist sharing a pic and seeing what you all think!

I love how the herbs smell in the morning (especially the mint) and the aloe vera plant just gives me these healthy vibes.

I would love to know how you all have your study desk set up.

Here it is! : )

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Holy holy holy crap

Harvard just invited me to interview off the waitlist.

What do I do

What does this mean?!

Hey Everyone,

I am curious. Will any of you be working FT during law school? If so, how do you plan on tackling/managing working FT and going to law school PT? I've heard a few people advise that you should not work at all your first year of law school, but honestly, that is not going to be an option for me. Is any one else facing this situation?