So I saw a post about how another 7sage student got raked over the coals, for having two watches, by the proctors, when there are no rules not allowing it, and even after calling LSAC to confirm that it was allowed. I expressed my sympathies and thought about my own experience, and thought that my experience is probably something I should tell everyone.

I almost had a similar experience with my juicebox, but luckily for me, and unluckily for the other guy, the guy sitting in front of my had the exact same juicebox and took the blow for me and was called out in section 3 by a proctor. We all knew it was perfectly within the rules to have a juicebox, and I've had the same juicebox twice in previous LSATs already. The rule for having a transparent bottle only applies to water bottles. The proctor then came back a few minutes later to give it back to him, without any remorse. Another thing was that I got a warning for looking around while copying the pledge at the very start of the test.

I realized this September LSAT, a lot of proctors were quite on edge. I talked to them afterwards, and found out a lot of proctors secretly got audited this past summer (they didn't tell me how or give me any details), and received a lot of punishments for being too lenient on test takers, so they're essentially overcompensating, and conservatively punishing anything that may even have a semblance of breaking the rules.

Thought this might be helpful for future test takers to expect the worst. I wish you all the best.

So I took a course with Blueprint and I improved my score by 29 points between the practice tests. I just took the September LSAT and will most probably be taking the November one as well. On my last practice test I got 15/23 on the Logic Games section. What is the best way to improve this part of my score? I've seen a few books by Powerscore on Amazon. Any recommendations?

Best choice I made today. Now I'm just hoping they turn my writing prompt into a RC passage for the november test.

Hello Hope you are all well -a friend of mine is thinking about doing paralegal then going to law school. Anyone that took this pathway ? pros /cons ... ect

Hi everyone!! I wrote my Sept 2017 LSAT a month ago and before that I was scoring consistently in the high 160's to the early 170's on all my prep tests. I got my LSAT score today and scored a 158. I am genuinely confused and I don't know what went wrong. I get bad test day anxiety and I have never even scored lower than 163 even when I had just started pt-ing.

I wrote the June 2017 LSAT as well and had really bad anxiety and got 160.

I don't know what I can do for December. My fundamentals are pretty solid considering I was hitting 170's even on very recent prep tests.

I am concerned as well that I did worse on the second time round and what law schools will think when they see that. Any advice on that?

I know that I can do well on the LSAT but I don't know what happens on test date and how to overcome that anxiety that gets me a score that is not representative of my abilities. Do I have enough time to make enough of a difference before December?

Hey again everyone!

I want to start off by saying thank you in advance.. This community is awesome.

I've taken the LSAT 3 times: 144 (shouldn't have taken this one), 147, and just took this Sept exam.

My goal score is 153-155 and above, and in my last 5 PT's before September exam I was averaging 153.

My prediction for this exam is I probably scored a 150-151.. I screwed up in the actual LG section after misreading a rule (in the first game!!! ugh) and I ran out of time and forgot to bubble about 3-4 questions on the last section LR :(

All this said, I'm still confident I scored higher than my last exam of 147. Before this exam I would have honestly said f*** it and kept my score, but I feel like I've dominated LG so much more and I feel like i'm really close man.. Felt really in control this time. Also, they only take high scores, should I maybe call my target schools and ask how they feel about this?

If I keep this score and get below a 152, I feel like I may want to retake. Thoughts? I'd have 4 takes total on record.

I feel like it's important to have the right mindset and mentality when you start 7Sage. I believe JY talks about this in the early lessons as well, but here's another perspective:

Many people study for at least a year before they reach their target score. I've personally done the CC twice and also every single PT (wasted most of them before I joined 7Sage) before I consistently reached my target score. So don't be too eager to take the test or retake the test. Wait until your PT scores are consistently at your target score, or at least close to it, before you even think about the real test. Here's a headsup, your score will not miraculously jump up on the real test and hoping for such is crazy.

Additionally, 7Sage has a lot of depth to offer, so when you're studying, don't just do the questions and move on. Every time you make a mistake, spend at least 10 minutes writing out why you made the mistake and how to prevent yourself from doing so in the future. Then, watch JY's explanation and compare it to your own analysis. This is how a proper review should be done, on top of the Blind Review system (You HAVE to Blind Review for all your practice questions, if you want to improve. Break down every part of the stimulus, each answer choice, and write out why each wrong answer choice is wrong; refer to the Blind Review lesson for more details). If you're not doing this, then you're sincerely wasting questions. Sometimes, it takes me hours, even after hearing JY's explanation, of staring at a question before I understand it, and other times, I straight up disagree with JY and come up with my own explanations, but that's how I learn and insure I don't make the same mistakes again.

This is just tough love. I wish you all the best!

For those of you taking the test tomorrow, I'm thinking of you!

If you are studying right now... STOP! Seriously haha. You've done all you can do. You've put in the time and effort. Now is the time to rest, relax, reflect on all you've done, be proud of yourself for how far you've come. Go watch a movie, take a walk, read a dumb magazine. Let your mind rest. Eat good meals, go to bed at a reasonable hour. You got this!

And remember, tomorrow's test is important, sure. But it is also just an LSAT like all the others you've practiced before. In a few weeks, tomorrow's test will be published as PT 85. That's it. Nothing special about it. It has normal LR and LG and RC just like you've practiced for hours and hours. It's just one more PT along the way.

Now, go get some rest, and good luck tomorrow!

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William Patterson University Test Center, Wayne New Jersey

The biggest surprise was the small size of the desktop. Otherwise a great facility.

Proctors: Two were very cordial and professional, stuck with the LSAC script which was fine. Monitored students but not distracting.

Facilities: College building, vending machines in the lobby

What kind of room: classroom

How many in the room: 25 students in a room with 35 desks

Desks: individual desks, tiny desk top, not enough room for booklet without hanging off the edge, challenge for RC and LG to see. LR just folded booklet so one page visible.

Left-handed accommodation: a few lefty desks

Noise levels: quiet

Parking: ample campus parking close by

Time elapsed from arrival to test: no wasted time, very prompt

Irregularities or mishaps: none

Other comments: none

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: September 9 2018

Has anyone taken the test at Queens College? What was your experience like? Or do you know anyone who has and how did they feel about it?

How do I get in the 160 plus club? I know about blind review and I am doing it. I know some of you are going to say, "It just takes time," and I am aware of that fact. Like perhaps many of you, my ultimate goal would be to score a perfect 180. First I need to score in the 160s ,and right now I am consistently in the 156 range. I know there are no short cuts to achieve greatness but somethings got to change. If your someone who has been in this range, and has improved I would love to hear what you have got to say about making this transition. I know there is no simple prescription I would appreciate any advice at this point.

I took the LSAT earlier today and I don't think that I did well. I had two logic games sections (which is the section that I struggle with the most) and I ran out of time on the reading comprehension section. I was unable to answer five questions from the RC section. I did okay on the logical reasoning sections but I don't think my score will be good. Should I cancel? I don't want my score to lower my chances of getting into a good law school. I don't know what to do because I've studied for more than six months and I did horribly. Advice?

Making this post to thank everyone who has messaged me or replied to my posts the last 4 months! I was really set on taking the test in September but after experiencing burn out and realizing that I'm still not where I want to be, I've decided to take a few days off to collect myself before jumping back in to conquer the November exam. I had my reasons to avoid delaying but I've hit a point where I'm taking things in stride and trusting the process. After all, I'm not starting from nothing - rather just picking at my weaknesses and working on maximizing my strong sections.

Wanted to make this post for everyone who is currently contemplating the decision or is in the same boat as me. We got this and everything happens for a reason! Take it as a chance to restructure your study schedule and make changes accordingly - something I forgot about along the way is that the LSAT is always going to be there. It's better to take it when you're ready as opposed to forcing yourself to sit through the exam and get wrecked because you're not ready. Then you'll have to face the psychological effects of being sad or upset at your score when clearly it wasn't time to take it and enter a cycle of self-doubt and contemplating your law school dream. Don't let your pride get in the way of what's best for you!!!

Hi everyone,

I really need some help/advice! I'm really struggling with RC! I've been studying for 6+ months and my RC score has not budged. I typically get 10/11+ wrong at every attempt. I have completed CC in RC and have been reading more (specifically the Economist)...

Thanks in advance for your help!!

I've been studying since January. I took a test before I jumped into the Power Score books and got a 160. I felt great! I worked through all three PS books, taking a test every week or so. My average from about 12 tests only moved to a 162, and I only got between 165-169 four times. Never hit my goal, 170. So, I reread the logic reasoning bible. And then again. Still nothing. I turn to 7Sage, and have worked through the entire syllabus in about three weeks. My score right before started 7Sage was 166. I took one a week throughout the course, and got worse and worse. 162. 161. Today, 160. I'm back where I started. I take the test on Saturday and I feel like I've done all this studying for nothing. Any advice? Ideal school is Vandy.

Also, I usually miss 0 (1-2 at most) in the games, 5-7 on each LR, and about 8-11 on reading. And don't suggest Spreeder, because it didn't help either :/

I just noticed that the problem sets in the CC have images instead of videos for the individual questions. I really liked the video format to help with my timing for completing the questions. Plus, the new images are much larger and don't fit within the computer screen. Is this a permanent change?

Kindly advise !!

In summary: I am registered for the September and November LSAT test dates. Since June, my plan has been to sit the September exam. I am currently underperforming, and not reaching target score for schools I seek to apply to. I have until 11:59PM ET to withdraw my LSAT registration for tomorrow's exam. Should I withdraw, or sit tomorrow as a "practice" run?

For context: I have not taken a full PT in over 9 days. Work-related international travel has made it difficult to study the past 4-6 weeks, and I have been planning to withdraw my registration, and simply not take tomorrow's LSAT for the past two weeks. Nonetheless, earlier today, numerous people have suggested that I sit tomorrow as a "practice" or "test run" in order to get an idea of the test day atmosphere. I had not considered doing this until earlier today.

What should I do? I am not in the zone. I do believe that sitting the exam in a proctored environment may be illustrative, but am worried that knowing that I will not do well will traumatize me or fuck me up. I do not experience test taking-related anxiety; the anxiety you may note in this post is largely due to the last-minute nature of this situation.

I will cancel my score either way. Should I cancel now, take a deep breath, and go back to studying? Or should I take tomorrow's exam, and cancel immediately afterwards?

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Just decided to postpone last minute cuz my scores weren’t consistent and I really wanted a 170+ and it would be my fifth take... feeling pretty defeated ;/

I really hope this isn’t a mistake. but excited to work with all the November test takers!!

This short interview reminded me of something many people discuss in the LSAT community: the difference between our practice and test day. Mr. Danaher is a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu coach at Renzo Gracie's gym in Manhattan. In the past few years he has produced a crop of students that have transformed several aspects of the jiu jitsu game. One of his students won ADCC Gold in 2017 (the most prestigious no-gi tournament in the world) and something only ~8 American males have ever been able to do.

In the video, Mr. Danaher says we should look at test day (he talks about grappling competition day) much the same as we look at practice. That, if all along we have been practicing the way we should be, test day is essentially another practice. I've heard this before in the LSAT community: that had we been practicing properly, test day is basically another PT! To all those taking the September exam fresh or as retake, just remember: look at it like just another practice.

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Just wanted to say thank you to the community and JY for creating this amazing site that enables people to pursue their wildest dreams'. It is apparent that 7sage's true intent goes far beyond making money and exists to create good in the world by empowering others. Whatever way tomorrow goes for those of us taking the test, it is comforting knowing we have an entire community that has been there from the beginning and will be there through the entire journey. September Test Takers: Lets do this!!

Hi 7Sagers,

I am set to finish the Core Curriculum this coming weekend and am looking for Post CC advice.

For background knowledge, I am registered to write the test this November. This means I have about 2 months of PTing, BRing, and drilling of my weak spots to get myself up to the 170's. I cold diagnosed in the mid-140s and have not taken a PT since.

So, while it may be arguably premature without having taken a PT, I'd like to know:

What is the typical approach of fellow Sagers following completing the CC? Should I immediately take a PT,rehearse some LG (as I've seen recommended in previous posts), or some other method?

How often to take a PT?

How many PT's is it possible to take within now and November?

How do you recommend drilling LR, core curriculum concepts, etc.?

What has typically been the biggest obstacles following completing the CC?

Any forums, groups, blogs, or mediums that have found that helped with LSAT preparation?

Any forums, groups, blogs, or mediums that have found that helped with law school admissions?

*. General tips, ideas, blogs, methods, etc., on studying for the LSAT, law school admissions, law school itself, being an attorney.

Thank you all in advance for your time.

What are y'all eating for breakfast on the big day??

What snacks are you bringing for the break???

From what I read online, breakfast should include slow-release carbohydrates, such as whole rolled porridge oats, whole grain bread or low-sugar muesli, as they provide slow-release energy. Adding a protein is also recommended, such as milk, yoghurt or eggs, to keep you feeling full for longer.

GIVE ME IDEAS FOR FUN FOODS TO LOOK FORWARD TO ON SATURDAY :)

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Hello fellow 7sagers!

I’ve been taking PTs and my scores have been around 169-171 with BRs of 176-178, but I can’t seem to break this score plateau.

I find that I have the most trouble with LG and RC sections (where I usually make 4-5 mistakes). I think that timing is an issue for me because I always feel rushed when doing these 2 sections, and I suspect that’s where my accuracy suffers. In-Out games are my weakest games in LG, but in RC I am not missing any specific question type.

Can you please give me some advice on how to tackle this plateau?

Thank you in advance!

:)