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Decent improvement? Is there hope? Or is this too terrible for any hope? Ha. Wasn't much of a jump. Although I am glad it went up rather than down. I don't think I BR as well as I could/should. I find myself not knowing an answer and I say to myself fuck it I just don't know if it's right so move along. Finally got that PT following the CC out of the way. Now onto drills & FP!

So I'm currently debating between two wildly different ideas for my personal statement: one about the world of undergraduate moot court (I took the class for three years and it really solidified my desire to pursue law school) and another about a week long camping trip in the Grand Canyon where I had some near death experiences. Obviously, the first topic is way more directly relevant to law school, however I also feel that the second is unique and potentially more interesting. Any thoughts?

Is it true that the June LSAT has the most unforgiving curve?

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Do you restrict BR to only the LR sections? Or BR more, or all?

Hey all,

Long time lurker here. Now that I am almost done with apps, I figured that it would be nice to give back to the community for once.

So, my background:

Took the LSAT in September, got a score in the mid 160s

Was left with only Preptest 82 and Preptest C2 for my December LSAT

After I received my September scores, I was scared - I mean, I have literally used pretty much every single preptest (except for those two mentioned and yes, I managed to get my hands on the so called unreleased ones as well), and I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to have the necessary practice for the December LSAT.

Guess what? It has been said many times before, but I will say it again - reusing preptests works.

The difference between how I prepped my September LSAT and the December LSAT was that I spent the bulk of my time writing explanations. This might not work for you, but it worked for me - I began to see patterns and if you can explain something in your own words, chances are good that you would know how to tackle something similar to it.

Anyways, on to the day itself. I am not a good standardized test taker, and I freaked out for the logic games section as I was unsure of how to proceed with the first logic game. That said, I looked at it for 2 minutes and I moved on. Probably saved me as I went back later and it was actually a really simple game. Finished the section with 5 minutes remaining. I ran out of time for the logic games section on the September LSAT, and a large part of that was down to NOT SKIPPING GAMES when it is time to move on. So, I would say that skipping is key, and I know that that is something that JY says in his logic games videos a lot, but please, do yourself a favor - skip when necessary!

Phew, long post, but if you made it this far, thanks for hearing me out. I will answer questions on this thread if you guys have any, and for those of you taking the LSAT, good luck and remember to take out the trash (LSAT, I am looking at you)!

LSAT Garbage Man

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So working full time and not being able to study as much as I want is not only getting to me physically (I'm tired all the time) but emotionally - I find myself losing momentum during the week because work takes over and I'm slowly feeling like my law school dreams are impossible. I really want to go to a T14- preferably a T-7 but this process seems so impossible, sometimes I feel like giving up and just trying to get into SMU down the road (which is not a bad school just not what I envision for my journey). I'm really trying not to give up here but it's getting harder and harder :(

I've been studying for the LSAT since June and I'm taking the Feb test for a third and final time. I need guidance to a hard core study schedule. Not sure where to begin, honestly. My weak area is LG but, there's definitely room for improvement in LR. Thank you!

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Hello,

I'm posting this to get some of you guys' recommendation about the best way to make use of my available time to improve on my LSAT. Since my classes will not start until January 16, I have a lot of time to study for the LSAT.

Just a little background, I'll be taking the LSAT on Feb 10 and I've been averaging around 168 on my PTs. I am aiming to get 173+ on my LSAT.

Here's what I've been doing everyday:

Here's some questions I have:

Should I keep doing one PTs everyday, or is this an inefficient way to improve my score?

So, I know that JY recommends doing at most 3 PTs in a week, but I don't find myself getting burnt out doing one everyday, so I don't see any reason why I should stop doing this if it will help me improve. But I'd like to have some of you guys' opinion on this. I currently still have 20 PTs available to do.

How to improve my LR section? I currently average around -2 to -4. Should I just continue to do many many questions and review?

For LG, I've been doing the "Fool Proof" method recommended in the curriculum (redo all LGs that I missed, multiple times until I mastered it). I'll also be reading the powerscore LG soon. Any other tips?

How would you approach improving your score if you have a lot of time available?

Thank you very much!

Hey guys, I’m having a difficult time recording myself taking a timed test. I don’t have access to a camera until tomorrow (roommate borrowed it)but need to take a test today... any times on recording with an iPad/ laptop/ iPhone?

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I plan on taking the the LSAT in June. My first score on a practice lsat was 140 (low, I know). I have self studied to the mid 150's and just started this program yesterday, praying it can get me in the 160's. I have a 3.7 undergrad gpa in elementary education (a joke, I know), military experience, and teaching experience. What I am trying to get at is, will a 160 with these other softs get me into ASU or a school near the same ranking?

Hi Everyone,

I started my LSAT prep with the LSAT Trainer and it's been a tremendous help. Over the course of doing drills and searching for explanations for correct answers online, I eventually came across 7Sage and found this awesome resource!

Many of you in the community seem to advocate for pairing the Trainer and 7Sage together. I def concur.

However, as I've been going through the CC, it seems JY recommends learning with material pre PT36 and then taking PTs for the next 50 plus LSATs.

My question is, Mike Kim's drills mostly come from PTs 52-60. If I drill with those, then technically, I would lose those 'PT opportunities' that JY recommends. Obviously, PTs are very precious and I don't want to waste them. But I'm also of the belief that there's no reason to start taking full PTs until I develop a solid enough understanding.

Did any of you run into this dilemma? How did you decide to navigate and what would you recommend I do?

FYI: I'm taking the test in June '18 so I still have 22 weeksish to go. Was planning to learn for a few more weeks then drill/PTs for the last 16 weeks or so.

Thanks in advance!!

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Just wondering if anyone created a list of the logical indicators and the 4 groups they belong in? Thanks

I took the December test, and prepped with the Powerscore Bibles. I'm retaking the test in Feb and am using 7 Sage now (and rereading Powerscore Bibles). Obviously time is an issue. Is reading the LSAT Trainer worthwhile at this point? Will there be much key advice that is 7sage or Powerscore doesn't touch on. I am studying like a lunatic right now and can squeeze it in. Just not sure if it's worth it. As always, any advice would be MUCH appreciate.

I applied to HLS with 25% LSAT and received an interview request. HLS later in the admissions cycle clarified that people who have taken both LSAT and GRE report both (even though it wasn't stated at the time of submitting application).

I took GRE couple of years ago cold not for LS. Since I assume interview is a positive sign, i am unsure and concerned that reporting sub-par GRE that I took without prep will negatively impact my application, esp as my LSAT is already below median and the feather that could tilt the scale.

GRE score is: 163 v (93%), 167 q (94%), 5.5 aw (95%)

Those who applied HLS with GRE scores, can you share the stats and how bad this GRE would be esp as their median LSAT is 99%?

I am apprehensive to take a PT because although I feel like I've gained a plethora of knowledge and skills I fear a low score or one close to my diagnostic. I think I'd be discouraged if my score hadn't changed much. But I like to think it has at least some. Should I just split my time for now between drilling LR & RC sections followed by BR, and also foolproofing the LGs? Or should I take a PT just to see where I'm at?

Hey all - I go back and forth on how I will realistically study and get my school work done when I start law school. I have a 7 and 4 year old and sometimes the "guilty mom" feelings creep in. My husband is supportive and said he would help out so long as we cut our budget since I won't be working during school. I just wonder, that even with his help, how much quality time will I really be spending with my kids? Going to school would mean very little to no after-school activities - at least for a little while. Guilt. It may mean someone else doing their homework with them and not me. Guilt. I want to go to law school so bad but is it worth it at the expense of my kids?? The guilt! This sucks.

So, I was wondering how the other moms and dads are doing it or will do it. Any advice or motivation are really appreciated.

Hey everyone,

I stumbled across 7Sage after it was mentioned in an LSAT curriculum I've been using. I've since been using the free trial and have been really impressed with the techniques and sense of community. Consequently, I've been flirting with upgrading to the Ultimate grade in order to continue developing my skills. At the same time, I've been looking at some other online courses that offer one-on-one guidance, which I suspect would be helpful in terms of accountability to make sure that my score continues to increase (currently, I'm usually scoring around 163-166 on my PTs). I've been studying for the LSAT since November, and I'm hoping to break the 170 threshold on the June test.

While I wouldn't consider myself to be lazy or a procrastinator, I know from when I completed my undergrad that I always excel in settings where camaraderie pushes me to be better. All that beings said, do people have some thoughts on whether they have found the 7Sage curriculum/community to push them to be consistent in their prep?

Any thoughts would be appreciated!