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I'm about to start writing my personal statement, cv, and diversity statement. I would like a professional to have a look at it. Someone who knows a lil bit about law school stuff. Unfortunately, I don't have hundreds to blow, and going to a school English tutor seems pointless.
I live in Columbus oh. Does anyone know about law school admission peeps in my area who could lend a hand?
Proctors: Been the same lead proctor for all 3 attempts I have taken it here. He was in charge of the Sept 2016, Sept 2017 and Dec 2017 test. He is a really cool and fairly relaxed if not forgetful guy. He forgets little details, like telling us it was okay to open our books to fill out our names on the answer sheet. They will accommodate everyone the best they can for medical purposes (eye drops etc) They generally do not talk at all during the test.
Facilities: It's a Marriott, typical hotel. The test area is in the basement area of the hotel. The bathrooms are close, but small. Male's had no issue getting in and out of the bathroom. There was generally a large line during the break for the female bathroom.
What kind of room: Huge ballroom with lots of space. They have an analog clock hung dead center, however people in the back might not be able to see it.
How many in the room: About 75 people.
Desks: Large desks, with plenty of space, one person per desk. There were about 75 people taking the test and there were still 10 extra desks that were not used. The surface of the desks can be rough but they put blank white cardboard plates down that you can write on!
Left-handed accommodation: No need.
Noise levels: Quiet, other than an occasional sneeze and the pencils of frantic LSAT takers mapping out a LG.
Parking: Can be a hassle. They have valet parking, but who wants to pay? Walnut Creek BART station is close though and free to park at during the weekend. I parked here and walked to the test all three times I took it.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: From check-in at 8:30 it takes about an hour to start the actual test. Once everyone is in the room and the instructions given you will start. Don't expect to start until around 9:30am (but be there early!)
Irregularities or mishaps: None
Other comments: Great place in the Bay Area to take the test. I've taken 3 here and have never had an issue!
Would you take the test here again? I did. 3 times.
Date[s] of Exam[s]:
Sept 2016, Sept 2017, Dec 2017
I graduated 2 years ago and need a rec letter from my law psychology professor. I got an A and this class strengthened my decision to study law. However, I never went to office hours, or talked to the professor. Also, it's been 2 years. I need to send him an email, but I'm starring at a blank page. Please help? What should I say?
Just curious, did LSAC ever release December test score before their two weeks holiday?
Thanks.
Hi I just took the lsat on Saturday, I had also taken my first one last June. I'm wondering if others get as nervous as I do when first starting the test, and also blank out momentarily. Just feeling everyone scrambling to start the test, I have a hard time understanding the first few questions. I think it lasted the whole section honestly.. I finally eased into it more by the second section. I thought I wouldn't feel this way on my second try at this test. I had three LR sections, I'm not sure if it was because my first one was experimental or not but either way it really go to me.
The first time I took it the room was small and I was crammed against other test takers and could hear their pencils scribbling furiously...it was all really distracting. I also didn't know that those sitting next to me were working on different sections so I thought I was behind, I felt a heat inside my head and chest and my brain went numb, like I couldn't understand what I was reading at all. Later on I took the same ptest at home and performed much better, in total disbelief that I'd missed so many questions due to nerves. This time (Saturday) the room was much larger, I had a corner seat so at least no one sitting on one side, and knew the person next to me was working on different sections from me so it didn't matter when they turned pages...but still, I was very nervous starting out even though I've practiced taking deep breaths.
Also I feel I had had enough practice of logic games from 1-81 with the help of 7sage and been exposed to enough weird games to feel confident, but still ran into some games on this recent test that I didn't know how to set up effectively. Did this happen to anyone else?
What's the PT that was sequencing and out game. 4 in and 2 out. It was in one of the recent PTs
Do y'all get the same test for those who took the test this Monday? I'm sitting for Feb. Sabbath date.
Does anyone know what the deal is for seating at CUNY Law? I've heard from some they were in smaller rooms with spacious desks while others were in large lecture halls with the tiny pull out desks-- not sure what to expect. Appreciate the input!! :)
For those of who've taken the exam a couple times, if you do worse on your subsequent tries... I'm still unclear how all that plays out, I understand law schools are able to see all your previous scores, but if your most recent ones are worse, do they look at the most recent scores to make a determination or do they look at your highest score?
Hi All,
Interested in hearing the thoughts of my fellow 7-Sagers.
My LSAT journey has been a long learning process to say the least. My first attempt (a year ago) came after taking a worthless Kaplan prep course which had successfully convinced those of us enrolled in their course that all we needed to crush the LSAT was their three-month study plan. This was evidently false after I received my first attempt score (Dec. 2016). In hindsight, I should have cancelled.
Later, after some research into the more popular study techniques/guides I made my second attempt last June 2017 after studying the PowerScore Bibles and saw a significant increase in my score. I applied to a #50 school but was ultimately waitlist-denied.
However, it was nearly the end of my study for the June 2017 that I discovered the undisputed, most effective, most honest and realistic LSAT preparation company of all time... 7Sageeeee! Working through the CC and watching JY's explanations gave me the "ah-ha" moments I was longing for.
SO, last Saturday's Dec. 2 administration was my THIRD attempt at the LSAT. However, I don't feel like this attempt was within the score range I had hoped to be within (162-167).
With all of that said, should I roll with my score and get my applications in early? Should I cancel and retake in February? Or finally, should I keep score and make a FOURTH attempt in February? I'm not too thrilled about having that many reported attempts and also I am not happy about applying so late in the cycle but if it means scoring well within or over my ideal range and making myself a more competitive applicant, perhaps a fourth attempt is worth it..
All feedback is encouraged. Thanks!
Kyle
PS. Didn't intend for this to be a narrative lol Hopefully just provides some context. Maybe someone else has a similar story.
I took the September LSAT and decided to cancel and registered for the December one. I was scoring in the range of 165-168 before the December exam and felt pretty at ease. The night before the LSAT (Friday), I received news that my cousin had died. I still went to take the LSAT on Saturday morning, but I was filled with different emotions that day, so I can't really trust my hunch on how I did.
I know the scores won't be released until January, but I was wondering if I end up scoring below the range that I was scoring prior to the exam, should I write an LSAT Addendum?
I took the December test this last Saturday, and my testing center was a complete nightmare. I won't go into the details, but to just kind of put things into perspective - I had the book on my lap, pencils between my thighs, curled up trying to take a test on a table that was the size of my palm. The door was making this consistent squeaking noise for the entire 5 hours (it was defective, wouldn't close so it squeaked). I lost my train of thought every other sentence so I had my fingers closing my ears for most of the test. To make matters worse, the proctor was laughing at the entire situation.
I feel like I know the answer to this question already, but I'm wondering if I should cancel or not...
I took the test in September, and did not do as great as I could have (149). After September, I was pting at 160-164 right up until the December test.
If I don't get my desired score/canceling, I'll be taking the test in February but applying for the next cycle.
Should I cancel my score? Would 3 scores look bad if I don't?
Help :(
Does anyone else feel disappointed/like a complete failure unworthy of being accepted to law school after taking the test? I went into it feeling fairly prepared with months of studying under my wing, but I knew a lot of my score would be dependent on how I performed on test day and the difficulty of the test given. I felt like the test itself was very fair (almost on the easier side), but I have no idea how I performed. I hoped to come out of the test feeling relieved to finally be done after all the time I've spent on preparing, but all I feel is anxiety and disappointment because I'm not confident in my performance. If anything, I feel that I underperformed.
The only section I felt confident in was LG, and for the rest it just felt like I was just on autopilot - no time to freak out or gauge how well I was doing, just had to chug through and get the questions answered. It turns out the section that I was least confident in was NOT my experimental section as I had hoped, so that doesn't help matters. Now I have to wait until freakin' January to find out whether I completely screwed it up or nailed it. And in the case that I screwed it up completely, I can't even take it again because most of my schools won't accept February scores. I’m not getting my hopes up at all about my score because I have a pretty good feeling I’m going to be disappointed. I guess I won't know for sure until January, but it's definitely not fun to invest so much time into preparing for something and only feel overwhelming disappointment instead of relief after finally finishing it.
Ok guys.. One of my LR section went very unpredictable meaning that I was second guessing my every answer for that section and time pressure did not help and now I am not sure if I should cancel the score or not. I just want to know if it's ok to do it. and if I don't, what are the consequences. I am a Canadian LSAT taker btw, considering the Canada schools only.
So although I have decided to take the test in February regardless of my December score, I feel at a bit of a loss to where to restart studying. I don't know if it is because I'm still fairly tired, and relieved it is over. I just don't know where to go back to studying. Does anybody have any thoughts on how they are planning to get back at it?
Proctors: The proctors were very friendly, super professional, meticulous and systematic in their duties (checking IDs, handing out materials,addressing concerns). They went out of their way to ensure a positive testing experience. The head proctor in my testing room wrote start and end times on the white board, and gently cleared her throat before each 5 minute announcement (which made it less startling).
Facilities: Engineering Teaching and Learning Center on U of A Campus
What kind of room: Medium sized lecture hall with tiered seating rows
How many in the room: I will guess around 80 in my room, test takers were divided into a few rooms alphabetically by last name.
Desks: The desks were long tables, and we were adequately spaced with a seat between each test taker. Chairs were comfortable, but not adjustable in any way.
Left-handed accommodation: not applicable due to seating style.
Noise levels: Very quiet, I think the entire building was dedicated to the LSAT during the testing time.
Parking: Weekend parking is free on street, but not terribly close. Parkade was cheap and close to testing center.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: I arrived just after 8am, check in was no later than 8:30. I was seated by 8:15 and we started the first section around 9:30
Irregularities or mishaps: none.
Other comments: The ladies washroom had plenty of stalls, but the line up was still ridiculous on break, and I was thankful to have finished some sections early instead of spending my break in line for the bathroom.
Would you take the test here again? Yes, but I am hopeful to be done with the LSAT for the rest of eternity.
Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec 2, 2017
Just got approved for the lsac fee waiver. Should I get the super prep II? They will give me a complimentary copy. Anything valuable in it I could use to supplement 7sage?
Date of Exam: December 2, 2017
Proctors: Proctors were great to me! My water bottle actually leaked on my ticket on the most important part, meaning my face was ripped out and in a separate, soggy piece. I definitely panicked a little bit, but the proctors accepted the ticket and then let me re-print after the exam so that a non-ripped ticket could go to the LSAC. However, they were inconsistent with the watches. I have one of those timer analog watches like this: https://smile.amazon.com/Toptiertimer-Custom-LSAT-Approved-Watch/dp/B00T6Y5TOS/ , and so did one other test taker. They noticed her watch and confiscated it, but didn't look at mine so I was able to use it during the test (didn't help me though - I forgot to check during the only section I regularly run out of time on and ended up not answering ANY of the questions for the last logic game!).
Facilities: Holland Hall Testing Center
What kind of room: Classroom
How many in the room: 25-30
Desks: Desks were long tables with the attached swivel chairs. We were seated with one seat between us, so there was plenty of room to spread out the booklet and answer sheet. Perfect for taking the LSAT!
Left-handed accommodation: Yes, since they're just chairs and tables.
Noise levels: Noise level was quiet. There were no disruptions during the test.
Parking: Parking was ample and free behind the building.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: I'm not really sure! The clock in the room was not working, so I'm not sure what time we started. I do know that we got out about 15 minutes before 2, so all in all it took more than 5 hours.
Irregularities or mishaps: None
Would you take the test here again: Yes, absolutely! I took the LSAT at Vanderbilt before and we had tiny tablet desks which were just a nightmare. I was really happy that TSU had actual tables so if I take again in February it will definitely be at TSU!
Hey Everyone. I just wanted to say how thankful I am that I discovered 7sage. I never could have imagined finding such a great community to learn from and a format that allowed me to go at my own pace and fit my personal study needs.
I just completed the December LSAT and I have to say it's hard to not think about the potential score! However, I wanted to share some thoughts with those that may be new to the community or have been studying recently. It is incredibly easy to get discouraged by such a daunting test. If you find yourself doubting your abilities, wondering if you should just pursue something else and have high levels of anxiety about the test- believe me, that's normal. The preparation for the test is a psychological battle with yourself. The only thing really standing in your way from doing YOUR BEST, is YOU. I wrote the LSAT 3 times. The first time, I did it on a whim to just get a feel for the test. Let's just say that if you go in scoring a 148, expect a 148. My second time, I did not do enough preparation. I figured that doing a couple of timed sections back to back or some studying here and there would make the difference in achieving a high 150. OH BOY LETS JUST SAY I WAS SUPER WRONG! I received another 148 on my second test and wow was I ever shocked and dejected. I couldn't believe it. I waited out the application process and nearly got into one law school but it didn't end up happening. I was at a cross roads, I had one last chance, I had failed now twice (even though the first one was really just to see what it was like) and I was wondering if I should just walk away from the test. I thought, I could always apply as a mature student and hopefully bump up my LSAT in the future. In the first week of September, I came across 7sage, I said to myself that I would rather give it MY ALL and fail then not even try.
For those of you feeling discouraged by unsuccessful previous attempts or a lack of success in studying, understand that if you put the TIME, EFFORT AND COMMITMENT you can improve. Before this saturday's test, I scored a 160 on the September LSAT. I never dreamed that I could do it because I had allowed myself to feel dejected and to think that I couldn't do it. Believe me, the test is not easy but you can improve. If you want to go to law school and that's your end goal, you need to give this test your all. It won't be easy, there will be times when you want to give up but if you put the time and effort in -NO HALF ASSING TRUST ME!!! you will improve and you will do YOUR BEST!
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If anyone has a question, wants some advice feel free to message. Just remember, 7sage is a community and we are here to help each other.
Good luck to those studying for Februarys Test.
My first time writing the LSAT was over the weekend. I had dedicated a solid 4 months to studying full time using a variety of prep materials. I felt OK for most of the test until I got to the last LG section and I ran into difficulty with the third and fourth games. I ended up guessing on the majority of the questions in Games 3 and 4, and that really clouded my perception of the whole test. My gut tells me I didn't do well, mainly because of this blunder. I was PT'ing around my targeted score range for the schools I want (159 - 164), but I have no idea if I made into this range on the actual test.
Going forward, what should I do to make sure something like this doesn't happen again? I was fairly confident in my strategy for games. I've exhausted most PT's and finished the Core Curriculum on 7Sage. Could my testing blunder just be a mental miscue due to a combination of stress/fatigue? Or is there something I can do to recalibrate my study strategy so that this sort of thing never happens again?
I am curious.. take any PTs before completing the CC? My goal is at least a 10pt increase, and I am sitting for the Feb. exam. (If I don't make it, I'll take June, but for now I set a goal of a 10 point increase and sit for Feb.). I have 10 pts, and have no trouble buying more, and am working my way through the CC now. I realize I would face disappointment if I don't see a difference in score yet, then sort of just wasted a test, or maybe I would see a slight increase? Have any of you taken PTs before completing the CC? I have the starter for now.. and printed the custom study schedule and so far am ahead of it, b/c studying is basically my full-time job right now, thank God for this opportunity. So, anyway... take a couple of tests here and there or wait until completely done with the starter CC? That will put me around mid to end of January and give me about 4 or 5 weeks to take all of my PTs before the Feb. test.. My fear is not getting enough timed-test practice in ...
So was the perfect score v4 watch banned from the December lsat or was I the only one had his watch taken away 5 min before the exam started?
Let's wish a Happy Birthday to our friend who has always been there to help us all reach our dreams.
Best wishes on your birthday, buddy!
Hey all,
I am consistently missing 2-3 on each section. So no obvious weaknesses are popping out to me. Still, I need to make the jump from the high160s to mid-170's consistently. Who has done this? How does one do this? Lol any help appreciated.
Thanks 7sage (3(/p)