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I took the July test and scored a 166, which was my average. My goal for the LSAT is 168 or 169. I am signed up for the September test, but given that the test is only a few weeks away, I wonder if I should post-pone my retake until November. I am not sure that I will be able to meaningfully increase my score by either of those test dates, so I wonder if I might as well take September and apply as early as possible?

Second, I have still not mastered LG. I would say I usually get between -6 and -3. Sometimes I get -1 but most of the time something goes wrong. I think it is a combination of bad habits -- rushing in to the diagram or questions, or writing a rule incorrectly by accident -- but other times I simply make inferences too slowly.

There is no particular type of game that gives me trouble. I have been fool proofing games for 8 months or so and "feel" like I should be strong on the games by now, but that is not the case! I have been making a concerted effort lately to work on my habits (i.e., reread my rules to double check for errors). Still though, I am at a standstill. I feel very stuck and am not sure how to improve.

Any advice on either of these topics would be very much appreciated :) Thank you all

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Although I haven't done every single PT since 52, I have to say that Roman/U.S, Canadian law passage on blackmail from PT 65 is the most difficult to parse. Actually I take that back. The passages themselves aren't too terrible but about half of the questions are just impossible to get right even atmy second/third attempts. Which one is the most difficult one for you???

Also, I'm not sure if she was referring to the very same passages but I definitely recall in one of her webinars, Nicole challenged listeners to come up to her with more difficult dual passages than certain dual passages from one single PT. I'm wondering if that was PT 65.

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Hey ya'll,

With my July score in the books I'm paying a lot more attention to my school app list. I recall stumbling upon a really helpful site at some point which compiled law student feedback on various topics for their respective schools e.g. Georgetown students describing the collaborative vibe amongst the (generally) older student body and the lack of "gunners".

If you know the site I'm referring to or have another resource which you have found helpful (besides the standard numbers sites like LSN, MyLSN, etc) please do share.

Thanks!

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Do you guys first grade your PT just to see the score in analytics without seeing the correct answers, and then blind review, or do you guys take the PT, blind review and then put it all into analytics?

I've always done it the second way. But I'm wondering if anyone prefers to do it the first way?

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Last comment saturday, aug 11 2018

4 Takes too much?

Hi 7sagers,

I need some honest advice from ya'll. I just received my lsat score and received a 149. Although this is really low, I did jump 6 points from my previous score that I took the second time around. The first test I took I cancelled. I was hoping to make it into the 150 range however; since I didn't I'm wondering if it would be worth taking one final time? I do have a full time job which is very emotionally taxing making it difficult to study and make more major improvements to my score but I just don't feel comfortable applying to law school with this score. I plan to write an addendum explaining why my score was so low ( job, anxiety, etc) but I'm curious to hear everyone's thoughts about 4 takes. I've don't a lot of reading on it and some people seem to encourage it if the applicant feels they can improve significantly and other strongly advise against it. I am a URM with a strong professional background and average GPA but I cant seem to get over the 149. Is anyone else taking it for the forth time or has anyone decided to just accept their third score and apply with that?

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Last comment saturday, aug 11 2018

Why did you pick 7sage?

I am thinking to purchase an online course but I am not quite sure which one to pick.

I have 7sage, LSATmax, Blueprint and Fox LSAT on my list.

I am wanting to increase at least 10 points. My struggle was RC but I may need to build my fundamentals if I don't want to freak out during LSAT and let that influence my LSAT ability on the test day.

I wrote July LSAT and will be writing September LSAT as well.

Why did you pick 7sage over those?

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Last comment friday, aug 10 2018

23 and confused

Hey guys,

I am 23 and I would love to go to law school, however I take into that by the time I finish law school, article and take the bar I will be 27-28 years old. I am afraid that those 5 years of my life, I could have been working on other things or maybe starting my own business relating to marketing/social media.

How do you make a decision that can affect the prime years of your life (23-28) without feeling any regret or second guessing yourself ?

I have thought about it and my decision is to just take the LSAT, apply and see what my value is to potential law schools. However, I still always second guess myself and tell myself that i should be doing something else since law school will require a 4 year investment and at the very least 70,000 in student loan debt.

What do you guys think of those who have been in a similar predicament ?

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Last comment friday, aug 10 2018

Not Sure What to Do...

I have a 3.70 GPA, URM, good LOR's, and great "softs". However, when it comes to LSAT Day, I choke. 1st: 157 / 2nd: 158

I was wondering if you guys had any advice on what to do. (p.s.) Don't want to retake... Sunk a year into LSAT prep.

Given that I am also a Texas resident, do you think I should apply ED to UT, or not? I plan to apply as early as possible, but I'm not sure if that course of action will limit my chances.

Thanks!

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Hi everyone!

Looking for some tips on my September 2018 LSAT!

I did the June 2018 exam after studying for around month and got a 159. The section grades that I got were -8 for RC, -8 LR, -3 LG, -9 LR.

I am a little unsure of how to proceed. I seem equally as abysmal in all the sections. The LR sections I ran out of time on for the last questions and rushed, and the RC time/reading errors. Are there any tips/study tricks to help? Should I just keep drilling? I am aiming for a 165+

Thanks!

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Hi guys,

I am registered for both the September and November LSAT and it looks like I will have just finished the lesson curriculum (not PTs) by the September test. This is with an average of 30 hrs of studying per week. At this point I am considering the September LSAT further practice and hope to be able to set realistic goals after it to shape the following two months of study. As I have continued through the curriculum, I have found some of the practice sets and lessons easier than expected. Does anyone recommend skipping through those lessons a bit rather than completing them in whole for the sake of time? I will have 5 PTs done by September if I stick to my schedule. I just don't know if I am spending my time wisely by answering all of the practice sets and watching every strengthening question video. I am wondering if I should just get the gist of question types, do more practice tests, and move on. Thanks for the help!

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Hey guys, so I just can't seem to gain mastery over LG, despite my trying and trying. The issue is timing, obviously given enough time, I can get most of them correct, but I just can't seem to do them at the 8-9 minutes allotted for each. Actually, doing a game in that amount of time seems pretty much impossible to me, unless it's one of the really easy ones.

If a game is simple enough where I can make tons of inferences on the game board, then I don't have too much trouble. I can just set up different game boards for different scenarios, and then answering questions are easy at that point. But this goes for everybody else, I assume.

It's when I set up a game board, and I can't make a lot of inferences from the conditions given because there are too many different scenarios. Then it just becomes a time sinkhole, where I try to brute force through the questions, but then time always catches up to me.

I don't know if I should just raise the white flag on LG at this point, and instead focus all my attention and time on LR and RC, as these aren't as much of a roadblock to me as LG is. Focus on my weakness, or try to strengthen those areas that I'm better at. Don't know what to do.

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Hi all,

Hope all of your studying is going well. I finished the curriculum portion of the course about two weeks ago, and have taken six practice tests since then. While my first four showed a general progression toward a score I would be very happy with, the last two tests have been a 9-point and 11-point drop from my best score, which I made only days before. This leads me to a few questions.

  • Is this normal?
  • If so I guess that eliminates the need to answer the rest of these, but two scores an average of 10 points lower seems strange to me.

  • What should I do to remedy this situation?
  • I have read that this could be caused by burnout, but I am not feeling burned out and I'm eager to learn from my mistakes (I've had college classes that made me feel burned out and it doesn't feel anything like what I'm feeling right now). So is more rest the answer, or should I work it out through more PT's?

    Any advice would be appreciated on here or through PM's.

    Thank You

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    Last comment thursday, aug 09 2018

    LSAT Prep Advice

    Wow, my plate is full. I am working 20 hours a week (Leaving full time for school next week) (Mon-Fri), President of my fraternity, getting married in January, taking 15 credits this semester for my Finance degree (I am a senior), oh, and I need to study for the LSAT as well. I took the test with minor prep in June and got a 151. I need a 157 for a full ride at the two schools I am looking at. My employer refuses to let me study at work, therefore all my school prep occupies weeknights. How am I supposed to find the time and dedication to the LSAT!? I am scheduled to take the test in Sep, but think I am going to change to November. My question is, is quitting my job a crazy decision? I have been here three years. I can only work up until May anyways due to me being a student in this student position (pays well, I work for DOJ). I have to make a tough cut, and this seems as the only option. Is it worth it? I will get a full ride if I get to the 156-157 range.

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    Take a step back and think about why you're pursuing the study of law.

    This is one of the ten most popular talks on TED and Bryan Stevenson shows us how lawyers can be a powerful force for justice.

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    Last comment thursday, aug 09 2018

    Need Momentum

    Senior in college, 4.0 GPA in a finance major, and just burnt out. Was PT'ing 156-157 before June LSAT and received a 150. Taking the test again in September, but am really not sure this material is working. Makes sense, but does not translate to PT, as I feel I have gotten worse. Honestly just need a 153, but would like a 157 (What I need for full-ride at school I desire). Advice? Stuck and frustrated.

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    I started studying for the LSAT in October 2017. It is currently August 2018. With the passing of ten months, I have realized that my goal of reaching law school is a marathon and not a sprint. Taking 3 weeks or 3 months to study may suit other learners but not me. And that is okay.

    Sometimes I wonder if the support that my friends and family initially showed me in October has waned in strength; if the passing of time has caused them to question my abilities. This train of thought, however, does nothing to serve me. I recall that this journey belongs to me. I remind myself that this test requires the steadfast self-belief, patience, and effort that only I can draw from within myself.

    Sometimes I get stressed at the thought of "sinking all of my eggs into one basket". That with each passing day, all of my efforts are geared towards something that is perhaps not guaranteed. I suddenly begin to visualize the bitter disappointment of not getting in and feel the ensuing burn of self-doubt. This train of thought, however, does nothing to serve me. I recall that the world owes me nothing. Acceptance into law school will not be served to me on a silver platter. I must be resilient and continue to work hard. There is no other option.

    The November 2018 LSAT is 91 days away. I signed up for 7sage in March and have completed 65% of this course. Way back when, I scored a 147 on my first prep test. My current personal best is a159. I have learned an awful lot from 7sage yet there is still much room for growth.

    To anyone who has doubts - keep learning and keep looking forward!

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    Hi all,

    I’ve been registered for the September exam, but due to some life changes, studying has fallen by the wayside. Now that I’m resettled, I need some advice. Obviously I want to do well on the exam: I had an ok diagnostic a few months ago (151), and I have about 20-25 hours a week I can now fully dedicate to studying. Schools I am looking at see an average LSAT score of 155-160.

    Is this enough time between now and September to get any kind of improvement?

    Should I sit both September and November, or just cut my losses and change to November?

    I want to apply as early as possible in order to maximize the aid and scholarships I get, which makes me want to take the September exam, but I worry about a low score. I’m very torn on what to do here.

    Thanks in advance for your advice!

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    Last comment thursday, aug 09 2018

    Diversity statement?

    I don't feel so good about my diversity statement though I did make an effort. Everywhere i'm reading I see it's encouraged to write a diversity statement, especially for me since I'm of a different culture. I guess my question is can you still get in with just a personal statement or do most people make the effort to add to their application package even if it's not such a great diversity statement

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    Last comment wednesday, aug 08 2018

    Study before or after work

    When do you find the best time to study? Due to the early time of the September test, I am considering beginning to wake up around 5am to study rather than doing it when I get home from work (around 7pm). I find that at night I'm often pretty tired which affects my performance. Has anyone had good experience with this?

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    Last comment wednesday, aug 08 2018

    Experiences w/ Tutoring

    Hello, I'm wondering if anyone has had experiences with LSAT tutoring. How many tutoring hours did you purchase? Did you have any issues with learning different strategies (from what 7Sage teaches)? What about materials? Did you have to purchase additional materials that your tutor preferred?

    I really wish 7Sage offered this service (unless they do and I I've totally missed it).

    Thanks in advance.

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    Should I be aiming to go to the highest law school in hopes of making more money in my career? Will my chances be better for big law because the law school ranking is higher? Are there even lawyers making 6 figures anymore if they just go to lower ranked schools such as IU Bloomington or Hastings? If so, how? Can you realistically make 6 figures by going into lower schools?

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