Hey fellow 7sagers,

First of all – I just want to start by stating this maybe a long post LOL. So if you are able to read it and help me out, you’re the best. = )

So last year I started studying for the LSAT but gave up literally because I saw no improvement in my work/scores. But I didn’t lose hope that I couldn’t do the LSAT – so I decided to restart my studying this summer but using 7sage this time.

I finished most of my ultimate core curriculum (all of the RC curriculum, 90% of my LR curriculum – only thing I did not complete was advanced logic). However, when it came to LG section – I did not focus on it very much until recently (like this week) because last year when I was studying for the LSAT, I thought by far my LG section was the best.

Nevertheless, I saw a lot of improvements in my studying & knowledge foundation thanks to the brilliance of JY’s teaching. So I decided to do my first mock LSAT (June 2007) last week with the goal of reaching 152 and BR of at least 160. I am not sure if these scores were to high to have hope for LOL – but after I checked my mark my score was 146 and a BR of 156.

Some observations of my test were as follows:

LG Section 1 – I attempted all 4 games but was not able to finish the last game. The second game I read a rule totally wrong which really impacted my score. Also, the third game took me the longest to do.

LR Section 2 & 3 – I was able to attempt 17 and 20 questions respectively in those sections. To be honest – I have never attempted that many LR questions before in a timed test– so I was really happy with my improvement.

RC Section 4 – I was only able to do 2 passages, and the second passage that I did read I made some silly mistakes when I looked over the test.

Furthermore, one of the things that impacted my test score I think was doing LSAT questions on paper for the first time. Usually when doing the CC – I would type up my answers or analyze an RC passage on a word doc. Thus, when I actually did the test – my note taking skills in RC and LR did impact me.

As my username says Trust the Process LOL & from watching a lot of the webinars – I understand studying for the LSAT has different stages that many students go through. I like to call these stages: crawling, walking and running. The crawling stage – is where in which you complete the CC, build your foundation and start working on your pacing skills (which I think I am in right now and probably takes the longest amount of time). The walking stage – is doing timed sections on a more frequent basis, solidifying your knowledge foundations and really improving on your question pace. The last stage – running stage: now you are only focusing on PT’s and BRs.

The questions that I wanted to ask you all were:

Moving forward - I am going to be focusing a lot more of doing work on paper, start creating a test strategy, RC annotation plan and also start doing my CC problem sets. I know this should at least help improve my knowledge and speed on my upcoming PT’s.

My goal is to get into the 170’s and I know it will take a lot of effort. Anyways wish me luck everyone and thanks for your advice in advance!

Hello Everyone,

I’m looking for a study buddy who would be willing to go over in depth explanations for the prep tests. We can build off of each other’s knowledge and look for patterns and reasoning structure. Please message me if you are interested or leave a comment below.

I am an older applicant and am going to hire a professional service to research my background for any character and fitness issues. I had a situation come up that caused me to have significant retrograde amnesia that is likely not reversible. My family and friends tell me there is nothing major in my past in terms of C and F, but I will not be able to vouch for the absence or presence of some of the smaller issues myself that could have happened in college, etc., which is now many moons ago. Should I write a short addendum explaining such?

Thanks.

Hi everyone,

I just registered for the September test, but honestly don't know if I would be ready by then. I have been studying since June, so far I finished the Power Score LSAT bible textbooks and did about 10 prep Tests. I can finish Logic Games within the time limit, but each reading and logical reasoning would take me on average 40-45 min to finish :( I am working full time as an engineer, and have about 15 hour to study each week. Right now I am really stressed, not sure if I should take the November test or September one, I even thought about taking the September test and cancel right away just to "feel" the real exam. Does anyone have any suggestion? Thank you very very much!!!

So I've been following advice to go over questions just to refresh my brain before the LSAT. LG has always been my strongest section, with usually going between -3 and -5 timed. It was the section I originally needed the most work on/struggled with the most. I spent almost 2 months training LG and significantly improved. However, within the last four days, I have been absolutely bombing it.

Bombing as in, I cannot even get 2 games completed in under 35 minutes, and if I do, I get an entire game wrong. I can't answer more than one question with confidence. My brain goes completely blank and I feel like I've lost all the skills I spent months working on. Every other section is fine/the same as before.

I know that some people drop a few points in their PT the week before the exam but I'm doing fine in LR and RC. But it's like, as soon as I see an LG question, especially one with a MBF/MBT/CBT/CBF (i.e. with no additional premise), I completely freeze up and can't answer the question. I've forgotten how to approach it. I've also seemingly lost all ability to make inferences. I have no idea what's going on. I feel like how I did 3 months ago when I first started LG and didn't know what I was doing.

I'm seriously worried I'm just going to bomb the LG section on Saturday and I just don't know what to do anymore -____- has anyone had experience with this, and what did you do?

Is there any way to know how difficult the certain practice tests are? I am just starting to take the tests because I finished the CC. I wanted to know if some are "easier" than others. Thank you!

Hello all!

So over the last couple of months my PT scoring has seemed to plateau, with my average over the last 4 being 161.8 and tightly grouped (5th one seemed to be an outlier of 166). My section breakdown for those PT's is roughly -10 LR total, -5 LG, and -8 RC. I just took my first 5 section PT and it was the also my first recent PT (made the jump from PT44 to PT78). I felt really good about PT 78 as a whole while taking it, so I was kind of disappointed with the 162 I got. It may be because I made the jump from 2004 tests to a 2016 test (RC was much more difficult), or because the RC section where I went -10 was the 5th section I did (most likely just excuses). I finish each section with roughly 3-7 minutes remaining.

I guess I am just wondering if anyone has any study strategies for breaking through the score plateau? Recently I have focused on fool proofing more games, working on LR by question type, and doing untimed RC sections while also combing through The Economist articles. I am feeling good about the progress I am making on LG, but LR and especially RC need work. I am sitting for the September test and am hoping to go 164+ since the median at schools I am interested in were at 161 last cycle.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Good morning all,

I plan on taking the LSAT on November 2018, and I want to start studying in August. I have taken the LSAT before, so the material will not be new for me. I want to purchase the LSAT Premium, but the study schedule suggests 40 hours per week. With a full time job, it will be hard for me to do that.

My question is, how do I plan around that? Do I study as much as I can and skip over some things? Or do you guys think I should be fine purchasing the LSAT starter course?

Thank you all in advance,

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Hello everyone!

I use the 7sage’s lsat analytics and my scores usually range from 161-164. Sometimes I get like a 171 but that’s because the PTs are really tainted and I’ve seen over half of the LR questions before. (Several times)

Yesterday I took PT 56 and it was a fresh PT without any questions I’ve previously seen. I scored a 169 which is unusual because I would usually score 161 if the PT is completely fresh like this. And my worst section is RC and I would even get -10 questions wrong sometimes, however I got only -1 on this PT

So, I was wondering if anyone else had this experience with the PTs or if PT 56 was abnormally easy?

Thank you in advance!(:

Hi there, I know you all rank how hard questions or passages are on a five-point scale. I figured you do it based on what percentage of people got a certain question wrong.

I just finished a preptest (66) and I'm particularly interested now. You ranked game 1 four out of five in difficulty, but said it should take five minutes to complete. Game 2 got 10 minutes target time, but was ranked three out of four in difficulty.

Those are just examples. I'm not looking for specific feedback about preptest 66. I was just curious how you decide how hard questions are, or how long we should spend on them.

Thanks!

I was talking to my friend that is taking the MCAT soon and she said that many people have told her that although she is enrolled in a course, she should do other types of studying outside of that. So, I was wondering if that is true or not of the LSAT. Should the CC be enough or do you guys recommend doing more outside of this course, and if so, what would you suggest?

A little background: I am consistently scoring in the low 160s on full pts but consistently scoring 175+ (usually 178) during BR. Time kills me, and I know a lot of it is anxiety which results in brain fog because I can correctly answer questions/complete sections in an okay amount of time during BR.

I just wanted to put a request out for any tips/tools you utilize on any and all sections to save you time. For example, I just saw a suggestion that @keets993 gave on a different post to first do questions during a game that gives you extra premises (which I am definitely going to start implementing to save time since other questions can be answered by subgameboards you create during the extra premises questions).

Just looking for quick tips as opposed to personalized advice i.e. suggestions to work on fundamentals or fool proofing (this is always important and appreciated, but I think everyone should already be doing these things before/while relying on quick tips)

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Hey,

I also missed the deadline of Sept. registration and I am not a July taker. However, I still went ahead to register the exam and I had no difficulty in the registration process. But I did not receive the confirmation email (does receive the email that indicating the order has been received) and when I refresh my lsac lsat page, it indicates there is "no further lsat registration." I tried to restart registration, but Sept. registration -- "pending registration in the cart." Does this mean I, a non-July taker, cannot register the exam?

Thanks!

I took the July LSAT. It was quite an experience b/c the LG section just threw me off. I felt confident about only one game and had to make a lot of guesses on two games.

I've just been feeling so disappointed with myself. This was my third time taking the test. I was scoring in the early 170s on my practice tests. I worked really hard to get my pt score average to high 160s - early 170s. But everything just went to the drain on the real test.

I can't afford another score below 165. Both of my first two scores have been below 165. I know that the general advise is not to cancel, but I don't feel confident about the July LSAT at all. Doing well on the logic games is so critical for my overall performance on the test. I'm thinking of canceling and taking the September test. What do you think? At this point, I know that I'm capable of scoring 170+ and I don't think my performance on the July test will represent my full potential and how much I've improved on this test .

This is so stupid that I did this, but I forgot to register for the September exam. The deadline was yesterday. Do you think I could call someone? What are my options? What could I possibly do? I am so stressed right now

I'm an international LSAT taker from India; gave my first attempt in December 2017 with a 157, I'd been PT-ing in the high 160's but I also have severe anxiety and I walked out of that test not remembering anything so I knew I was going to bomb. My second attempt was in June 2018, my PT average was 175, scored a 165 on the actual test. This time I was much calmer and more collected, but had to rush to the bathroom twice during the test because I felt like I was going to throw up. I'm working on my anxiety and am confident I can do much much better next time. I plan to take the October test and score at least above 170.

I just wanted to know if giving it again is the wisest choice and if my goal score is too irrational?

It's my dream to attend Harvard Law, do you think it's worth giving another shot or have I already missed the train?

Thank you for reading, and apologies for such a longgg question. :)

Hi all. I'm signed up for the September 2018 test. I work full-time as a paralegal and this summer has been an absolute nightmare as two of my colleagues left for medical reasons and work has piled up, leaving almost no time to study. I'm moving much slower in my prep as a result, and am strongly considering taking the test at a later date since I'm not in a huge rush to apply to law school this fall.

That said, has anyone postponed their test due to feeling unprepared? I think I read somewhere that it's possible to push your test to a different date...is this something LSAC handles? I'm also not sure (given how unpredictable work is) if I want to move it to November or to January--does anyone know if you need to commit to a new date, or if there's a more general rescheduling voucher (for lack of a better word) to delay your test if you've already paid to take it on one day? Any advice is appreciated!

What is this mystery thing that we are apparently allowed to use?

Edit: Ok so a normal highlighter. Wow. Thoughts on actually using one?

Powerscore reports

" Getting early reports that accommodated test takers yesterday did NOT receive the same test as those who took the regular administration on Monday the 23rd. So they didn't see those two tough games, or that comp passage on sports, or any of the other stand-out elements...and thus had no advantage by prepping for the Feb 14 exam. This is a first for LSAC in several years: they've consistently given the exact same LSAT to accommodated people even 6-7 days later, which is what was expected to occur here. My guess is that since this is a nondisclosed test anyway offering different test forms on different days was more acceptable than it would be otherwise, since no one was going to get a copy (giving a disclosed test on the regular day and a nondisclosed for accommodations would be problematic, so they've avoided creating that discrepancy, but here it's a non-issue).

So the upside for Monday's folks: these people couldn't game the system by reviewing the 7/23 test info (and if anything were likely distracted/confused by doing so).

The downside is that the accommodated test yesterday was, by all reports, a friendlier test than Feb 14...the scale will be adjusted accordingly, but yesterday's exam presented none of the oddities that Monday's did. That perhaps feels more fair than offering the same, well-understood test, but it's hardly a perfectly-level playing field."

For those who took the Tuesday with accommodations, is this true?

https://old.reddit.com/r/LSAT/comments/91vutt/the_tuesday_july_24th_2018_accommodated_test_was/

Admin note: added link

I need a 20-25 pt increase from my diagnostic test and I have a little over 3 months. I'm willing to put in all the work. I already have a head start on the course. Any advise on how to get there? Thanks in advance.

Is it better to retake preptest right the way (like after we have blind reviewed and checked the videos, so it's still fresh in our mind) or wait a couple weeks or month before retaking it (to test how much of the reasoning did we retain?)

Thanks guys!

So just wanted to get some input and see what you guys think about whether LSAT skills fade over time. Now, apparently the LSAT is supposed to a rigorous logic test that provides metric defining a candisate’s aptitude in reading dense passages and complex conditional statements. Also, some argue that it’s supposed to provide training for law school? But the latter idea has really got me thinking...do some of these skills fade over time? And if they do is the fact a student reached a high score in the past at least somewhat indicative of their future success? I guess what I mean to ask is if a student say scored 165 on the June 2018 LSAT but after doing some pt’s 2 years later cannot score that anymore then is that a big deal? Was the point of taking the LSAT truly to retain certain skills or just measure a students ability to perform on a hard test in the peak of their career? How many of you would care if you got the score you wanted but years later lost the ability to do that again?