There's gotta be something wrong with my learning skills. I started out at 156 and I can't top 162 practically a year later. It's super confusing and frustrating - I started out going -4 or -3 on logical reasoning and -8 or -9 on RC and -15 on games. I decided to focus on the latter two since I was worse on them but it's completely backfired. I've managed to significantly improve on RC (I just needed to go faster) and now get -3 or -4, but I haven't improved at all on the games- and my logical reasoning has, inexplicably, gotten significantly worse - now I'm averaging -6. What the heck?

Is anyone in a similar boat where they've just plateaued? My diagnostic was decent so I was sure I would be able to top 165 on the test and I'm really frustrated. Why am I getting worse in logical reasoning? So weird.

During section 2 I get a bit of a crick in my neck, I previously asked the proctor how high can I raise my test booklet off the table and she said she'd 'just let me know' big mistake! During section 3 I had it raised off the desk and she stood in front of me during a LG question and started waving her hands, startling and distracting me from this already difficult task. Luckily I'm certain it was an experimental section. Anyone have a similar issue with this test?

Hey all,

Hope everyone is dealing with their post-LSAT anxiety well. For me, the exam felt fine. Much better than September, and I think I have a good shot at getting my goal score.

Still, I feel like I should register for the February exam just in case...even though I'm planning on applying this cycle. The testing center I use, and really really like, fills up pretty quickly, so I kinda want to get a spot just in case.

Thoughts?

Do we need to memorize which logical operators belong to which group #? Is that the idea? Or is it more to grasp the concept of the language and be able to read the sentence and know which is the necessary vs sufficient, thereby knowing placement for sc --> nc. I hope this makes sense. I am at about 13% in the CC and doing the quizzes. I am finding myself, in order to be fast, having to look at my notes to determine to which group the logical operator belongs. Am I acting to fast, do I need to work on identifying it not by group numbers, or do I? Am I to be working on accuracy and understanding here before speed?

On yesterday’s test, I was stuck between (A) and (C). I originally bubbled in C but realized that A was the correct answer. As time was running out, I hastily erased C and bubbled in only about 60% of A before time was called.

Im pretty confident that A is the correct answer but I was wondering if the scantron machine will process A as my correct answer even if it’s not bubbled in entirely.

Proctors: Excellent. Kind, professional, quiet during test. Really happy with them.

Facilities: Law school classroom. Building is newer, so pretty comfortable and well-equipped.

What kind of room: Large classroom, basement level, typical law class set up with tiered rows, long connected desks.

How many in the room: around 50

Desks: Long connected desk that runs length of row, seated us every other seat. Plenty of room to spread out whatever you need.

Left-handed accommodation: not necessary

Noise levels: Quiet

Parking: Small visitor parking lot on campus next to law school ($6 for all day). I arrived at 7:45 and got a spot, but at about 8:00am there was a rush and the lot quickly filled up. Outside of that, there is metered on-street parking (runs on Saturdays, max 4 hours so doesn't really work). I believe there are some other paid parking lots in the neighborhood, but not much other parking on campus. Arrive early, or be ready to park somewhere else!

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Arrived 8am, check in began 8:30, test began at about 9:30.

Irregularities or mishaps: None! Totally smooth.

Other comments: Visible clock on wall, chairs were ok but not super comfy. Temperature and lighting all comfortable and ideal. Vending machines with sodas and snacks available and accessible at break (accepts credit cards!). Large restroom, but line was long for rooms that started break slightly later. Hustle to the restroom if you want to go on break.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely! Probably the best option in Seattle area, with the exception of limited parking.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 12/2/17

Finished the Dec LSAT. Regardless of the outcome, how do you deal with the anxiety of waiting? Does anyone have any strategy? That's something I'm seriously struggling with, and I am really sure I will continue to struggle with it in the coming days :(

I just took the Dec. 2017 exam in Staten Island and there was basically every possible distraction you could think of, the worst one being a music/theatre practice taking place in the classroom DIRECTLY above. There were people singing OPERA and playing the piano during an entire LG section (no one thought to go upstairs and ask them to stop). The proctors also had full conversations/giggled throughout various sections and since I was sitting right in front of them it was incredibly distracting. On top of this, the heater began making really loud banging noises non-stop for almost an entire LR section.

I don't want to cancel my score, but all these disturbances definitely made it harder to focus which significantly slowed me down. If I complain could I get my next exam free? Advice?

Congratulations to everyone who wrote yesterday. Hopefully you’re all enjoying some hard earned time off.

I’m looking for a bit of guidance on how to handle what felt like a BAD write yesterday. December was the last admissible write for my only school option next year (extenuating circumstances preventing me from studying elsewhere). I’m applying with a splitter GPA that would require a 167/168+ for admittance next year. They also average scores, so a low score stays with me. If I don’t start next cycle, I’ll be upgrading classes to boost my gpa for 2019.

PT average has been in the 172-175 range for 40 plus PTs. Lowest write in 2 plus months was a 168.

Yesterday’s Test:

RC - Felt good while writing, but I’ve had a fair bit of RC variability in writing recently ranging from -1 to -5. This felt like a strong section, so I’d hope for something at the bottom end of that.

LR1 - Total blur. I had to guess on a minimum of one question and was rushed on 3-4. As a whole I don’t feel very confident about this section. LR has traditionally been my strongest section with a -1.5 average, but I feel like this could have been anywhere from -3 to -8.

LG - Felt good on three games, but fear I may have misdiagrammed one. Guessed on two due to time. I’m thinking -5+.

LR2 - Felt like a normal LR section, but it’s tough to say.

I have no idea what to make of my potential score. Mt best guesses are ranging between -12/13 if I performed better than expect on the LR1 to -20.

Options:

If I cancel and rewrite, I’m pushing myself into the next admissions cycle and upgrading. I strongly feel that I could perform better on a second write, but the prospect of setting everything back a year is far from ideal.

Chance it on this test/cycle and risk a low score that requires a higher GPA requirement subsequently.

TL;DR

How reliable an indicator is feeling like you bombed the exam the day after the test?

What would you do?

So one of my worst fears came true. I caught a horrible cold right before the LSAT. My throat started to hurt Thursday, Friday my brain felt foggy all morning, and I was bed-ridden by the evening. I slept for a maximum of 4 hours because I couldn't stop coughing and my throat hurt immensely. On Saturday morning, I wasn't as bad as I was Friday evening and night but I was sick enough that I would have stayed home from work had it been a normal weekday. But, as we all know, it was not - so I wrote my LSAT in a haze of sickness and exhaustion. I know it went poorly.

I scored 3 points under my average in Sept., with a 167 (with a 3 question bubbling error ugh). I'm Canadian and need a scholarship to go to a top American uni (the Canadian dollar is very weak and our universities are just way cheaper for law, so scholarship is absolutely necessary to validate the American route). My GPA is above the median at almost all of the T14s, and I have some cool experiences under my belt, so I knew I had that if I nailed this Dec. LSAT, I would have a really good chance at a great school and $$. The Harvard dream felt almost reachable. I worked my butt off and brought up my PT average to a 172.6, with my highest PT being a 176. I felt like 10% of the anxiety that riddled me going into the week of the Sept. LSAT. I was in a place where I was ready to rock this test. But alas, sickness.

Now, my question:

Would it be at all helpful for me to go to a clinic and get a doctor's note verifying my sickness to submit along with an explanation of why my second score didn't increase to what I expected (or perhaps why it decreased [ughhhhh])? Would this be a smart thing for me to do or is it a waste of time and money (I don't have health care coverage right now)? I'm pretty positive I don't have strep and I got the flu shot a month ago so it's not the flu - it's just a stupid, inconvenient, relentless, common cold.

I'm genuinely crushed by this whole situation, so any advice is welcomed. Thanks guys.

Hi everyone,

I took the LSAT for the first time today (after not feeling prepared for September and canceling the day before), and actually felt okay about my chances at 160+. That is, until I panicked during the Games (last section), and unknowingly mis-bubbled starting mid-way through the section. I'd say I was actually doing okay on the games (moving slowly but ensuring I did the first 3 games right), and had 5 minutes left for the last one. After setting up the last game, I realized that on the second game, I'd skipped the first question (intending to go back), but didn't skip the corresponding bubble. At this point, there was about 2 - 3 minutes left and I hadn't circled my previous answers in the booklet. After trying to shift them down and randomly marking the last 3 questions, I realized that I still hadn't correctly bubbled one of the answers in the middle -indicating that perhaps (or even probably) I hadn't actually fixed the bubbling correctly. I was able to correct that answer, but have no idea if the 10-15 answers below it were bubbled correctly or not.

I'm applying this admissions cycle with targets of Vandy, Duke, and Emory (URM applicant, strong softs). Should I cancel and re-take in February (sending in materials early and explaining the mishap) or let the score come (expecting as low as 140s) and promise to have a higher score in February?

I know the mis-bubbling is my fault and definitely take responsibility, just wondering if I should cancel. Any advice is appreciated!

Greetings from Delaware. Yes, the state. Since nobody decided to review the U of D, I figured I'd tell you. Beyond it being a building with rooms and professional staff, there are some quirks about the environment. This is a laundry list of stuff, and is subject to change. I took the December 2017 test, so now you have a reference point.

First off, they do it in Alison Hall. The rooms can contain about 30 test takers at any time. Don't worry, I doubt you'll be in a room with more than 15 people. This is Delaware: the state. There's not a lot of Demand for our only law school.

Second, the desks are small. Your desk space will contain a bit more than the size of your LSAT book when opened. It's best if you store your pencils and erasers under your book. Also, the desks have wheels, and the wheels don't lock. If you're a leg figitter, you're going to have some sweet travels in the room. The good news is that there are desks for left-handed people. The bad news is there's only one or two per room. Pro tip - if you're left handed, try to enter the room last. This is what I did, and they gave me two right handed desks to use. I got a bit more space than the others, which let me spread out like the !@#$ lord I am.

Third, the clocks. Every room has a clock in it, but do not bank on using it. The clocks are normally in the corners, and very hard to see. If you need a clock to reference, bring an analog watch.

Fourth, parking. You'll be using the parking garage about a five minute walk from Alison Hall. It's on the same street (Academy) as Alison Hall, so you're good. The cost is five dollars for all day parking. I suggest you pay the five dollars because UD cops literally have nothing better to do than write tickets and impound cars.

Fifth, the bell. For those of you who have never been to UD, there's this baller bell toll every hour (time marches on... !@#$ I'm old...). It's faint, but noticeable.

Pretty much all I got. Hope this helps.

Hey guys! I hope you did well. For some odd reason, I wasn't given the same test as everyone else. Did others with accommodations have different tests?

Hey all! So I submitted a resume for a school that comes out fine out of my printer but I'm worried that my narrow margins might not work for every printer. Should I email a resume with better margins to the school - just to be safe?

I feel I'm just making silly mistakes like this in on my apps.

Hey everyone,

Hope everyone had a successful take today. I had a quick question about what scores law schools look at. I know it obviously varies between schools but do schools who say they evaluate the top score do so even if a more recent score is not the highest? I got a 165 in September but only missed 2-3 on LG. This test, I felt a lot more confident on RC and a little more confident on LR but LG was rough to me. I ended up guessing on probably 3 questions.

Is it worth considering cancelling?

After months of studying, I finally took the December LSAT today. I completely bombed the LG section. I have no idea why I struggled with it, it didn't feel hard. I kept messing up my rules and missed bubbled twice in the section which I had to go back and erase and fix, which I still feel like I didn't properly do. I didn't end up making it to the last game which I just bubbled a random letter for the whole game. I felt I did well on the other sections but that won't make up for how badly I did on LG. LG is typically my best section for the most recent LSATs I've been missing no more than 4 and thats when there is a really hard game in the section. This was the third time I took the test. I took it June 2015 and canceled then again December 2016 and scored a 154. I've been studying on and off for more than a year and a half and really worked hard for this December test. I know I can score over a 160 easily but it is highly dependent how well I do on LG. I am really considering taking the test again February one last time and just focusing on LG with a bit of LR and RC until I take the test.

How badly will law schools look at fourth take? I really feel like this test was not indicative of what I can do especially since this time I came prepared. I just don't want to give up on going to good law school because my nerves got the best of me.

(Not literally)

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I’m a theater person who doesn’t wish people good luck. And you don’t need luck. You’ve rehearsed this. You know exactly what to do. You are gonna kill this!

Tomorrow is your time to shine!

But remember this is just a test. There’s more to life than this. Don’t freak yourself out. You’re gonna be fine.

throwaway account for 'obvious' reasons lol

we've had these semi-joke, semi-serious posts before, but...

this is it. in all seriousness, I'm going to the shop later today to acquire some quality adult diapers. it's 10:20am in my time zone and I just had to go to the bathroom. no telling this won't happen tomorrow as well lolol

worst case scenario, it's going to be nice and warm through the test.

Any thoughts?

West coast time, about to head in. Thinking of everyone already elbow deep in the test. I know you’re crushing it! See ya this afternoon!

I just finished it last night. How 'bout those closing arguments for the defense?? Am I right? Just poking holes all up in that prosecutor's argument like he were Zorro or something. Ahhh so good. Great book!

So I was just contemplating about tomorrow. I'm done studying and the stress sets in. But,despite it being one of the most stressful days in my life, I look forward to tomorrow. First, and most important, it will be all over! Second, I really enjoy getting to the test site early to people watch. Yes PEOPLE WATCH! If you are an avid people watcher, you know you'll see some gemstones tomorrow.

People watching can also be a great way to calm yourself down.

Like when you go to bed and can't fall asleep you count sheep, same when you wait for lsat you can count people's pencils.( I brought 10 last time myself) People go to extremes to feel ahmmn "secure" is the word? Especially the first time takers! Another thing that calms me down before the big L (no pun intended) is talking with people about the way in which they studied or how long they prepared. I go into every test feeling like I haven't studied enough, like maybe I don't know this stuff and all PT I've taken were for nothing. I sit biting myself down, when I hear "oh I haven't studied at all" or "I thought the experimental section was noted so we know which one it is". People tend to be so confident. I'm jealous of their "no fucks given" mentality, but it boosts my ego just to know I may be ok afterwards ?

Hey awesome-est LSAT community out there!

Signing off now. Going to turn my brain off for the next few hours. Just wanted to say good luck to everyone tomorrow; you're going to kill it!

Paul

so i dont know if im over thinking it, but my picture is not like high end quality type, its a little fuzzy around the edges but you can for sure tell its me, i just don't if they will be super strict and be like oh its not crystal clear we can't let you in or if im just going crazy, how strict are they usually?

If we are to be there no later than 8:30am,

Is it reasonable to say I will be done at 1:30pm?

That is 1h for check-in and instructions.

Last time I finished around that time, we got out at 1:45pm