Hey everyone,

I just want to thank everyone for their support and helpfulness over the course of my LSAT journey. I started at a 150 diagnostic and was able to score a 165 in September and now a 169 in December. I attribute this improvement to the wholesome 7Sage community and superior curriculum. For anyone that hasn't had the experience of using the 7Sage curriculum, it is entirely worth it.

However, I did have a question about the February LSAT. My undergraduate GPA is around a 3.94-3.95 and I'm planning on blanketing the T-14 (besides Yale) for this year's cycle. Do you think I should apply now or plan on retaking in February? From what I've been hearing, most people would advise that I retake for scholarship/waitlist purposes but I'm worried about how a lower score could reflect on my chances when it's released in February. I've been really going back & forth on this and would immensely appreciate any of input.

Help! I took the LSAT in December and scored a 165 (I majorly messed up on two games). Since then, I've been seeing a lot of improvement, especially after taking a full week off following the LSAT. I'm concerned by the variation in my scores, though- my last four PT scores have been 172, 174, 180, and a 167, with BR scores at 179-180. There's huge variation within my section scores as well, with my best in each sections being -0 and my worst -4/-5 (average is -2.2 for each section). Since the LSAT I've been working on foolproofing LG and I'm thinking about moving on to working on LR next week. Does anyone have any advice on what I should be working on and how to explain the huge variation in my PT scores? Thank you!

On December 26, 2015, I decided to take the LSAT. I bought a book from Barnes and Noble, immediately registered to take the test February 6th 2016. My first practice test I ever took, I got a 139. When I took the test, I got a 155. After I got my score, I signed up for 7Sage. I'm a mom of 3 (my kids are 7, 5, & 3), and I work full-time, so while I wasn't able to study as much as I would've liked, I put in my best effort, and I was able to pull a 164 out of the December LSAT. While not a 170, I'm still really proud of myself for hitting the 90th percentile. I just want to encourage anybody that feels like they're never going to improve their score, or like their starting score is "too low" to see a big improvement! Stick with it, and trust the process, even when it sucks. Happy Holidays, 7sagers!

I'm an aspiring lawyer but got a tattoo in my back, with a suit, it does not show it off, but if i put my head down with some buttons loose and with the shirt collar loose, it can show of just a LITTLE, here's some pictures of it:

https://prnt.sc/ht76br (tattoo itself)

https://prnt.sc/htl8as (with a shirt) (does not show, even if I put my head down)

https://prnt.sc/htl8l8 (with some buttons loose and the collar loose also, it only shows of like this if I put the shirt back, if I pull it down, does not show off)

I'll have problems w/ it ? Keep in mind that probably clients will NOT see it, cause I'll have a fitting suit on....

Any opinion its welcome! Thank you!

Hi! Would anyone be willing to look over my character and fitness addendum? If you can do so, I would greatly appreciate if you would PM me and I will let you take a look. Thank you!

does lsac need to get all 3 of my transcript before they calculate my gpa? I ask because I am having trouble getting one of my transcript at the moment.

**Question: ** should I retake the LSAT?

**Background: ** I took the Dec. LSAT (first time) and scored a 173. I know that’s a good score, but it’s below my PT average (last three PTs: 179, 180, 180). I had an unexpectedly busy week leading up to the LSAT and felt a bit burned out during the test. I am an international applicant, with a degree from Oxford law (GPA assessed ‘superior’ by LSAC) and a few prestigious national scholarships in the UK. I plan to apply next cycle and would ideally like Harvard or Yale, but will apply across the T14. Although I’m a UK citizen, I currently work in the US, providing post-closing legal analysis on large M&A transactions.

**Concerns: ** My concerns are twofold: (i) I don’t think I’ve scored at my potential; (ii) I’m worried my score is inadequate for a run at Harvard and Yale, particularly considering the weight accorded to the LSAT scores of international applicants without a reportable GPA.

**Potential retake strategy: ** I would aim to part-time tutor the LSAT between now and June, teaching 2-3 classes a week after work. This would effectively fund any retake as my time preping / delivering lessons would double as personal study time. I would then address my remaining weaknesses in the weeks leading up to the test.

Any advice would be very much appreciated!

Hi 7sagers, I'm sad and if you are too, then you're not alone. For those who got the score they want, congratulations and I hope you are celebrating this weekend.

I've been lurking around 7sage but never posted. Figured today would be a good day to post and ask "what are my chances".

I've taken the LSAT 3x at this point. I cancelled the first 2 scores and now this third score is a 167. I've signed up for February but is a 4th retake even a good idea? I was hoping to get a 170 or higher but that didn't happen.

Softs: Graduated in three years at a top 20 university (its a public univ), 3 strong academic LOR's, student government elected, extensive extracurriculars, LGBT, and current job at Google.

What are my chances at:

Thanks for any and all insight! This whole process is literally so laksdjfoiwruowjfsd

I need to write this, because even with all the hard work I put in, I got a score I am happy with today because of this community. The support, kindness, and encouragement that 7Sage offers is unlike any other LSAT resource. At my lowest points during my year and a half of studying the people of 7Sage were there for me and willing to be shoulders to lean on. The collective intelligence and sense of community that this forum provides was essential to my success. So truely, thank you 7Sage. I will stick around to help others enjoy the same degree of success that I am enjoying today. It’s my turn to give back to the community.

Always remember you have it in you. You CAN get the score you want!

Hey everyone, I wrote my LSAT in December and will be re-writing in February. My goal is to achieve a 160, and right now I'm typically scoring 151-155 range. I've tried the Kaplan and LSAT Trainer books but am thinking about using 7sage for my crunch time of 6 weeks. Does anyone have any recommendations on which study guide to use? My schedule is flexible and my wallet is kind of tight, but don't want that to stop me from utilizing a guide that would really help me. What do you suggest? Starter? Premium? Thanks!!! These forums are very helpful and encouraging!

Hello,

I'm probably taking the LSAT again in June. I did a lot better than last time (13 point increase thanks to 7sage) but my score still sucks. Anyway, I still have much faith in the process, and I think I just need to give it more time. I was thinking about doing what @kimmy_m66 did. However, I think I am going to need a personal study partner in order to actually do all the work I need to do to actually do well on this test. I spent 6 months or so studying for the Dec. Test and I am drained because the way I studied was a double edged sword. 6 months, full time, in my room, every day, except Sunday. I cant work and do this at the same time, so I simply studied. Don't do coffee shops because music distracts me. So I disciplined my self and went through the CC but only managed to get a tiny bit of foolproofing in and like just PT 136 in addition to the diagnostic before Dec. Yes I am for real. I didn't postpone because I was desperate, as 6 months alone in my room was starting to take its toll on me emotionally and I figured another 6 months would kill me (metaphorically speaking). Most of my friends live in the States and the few friends I have here in the Bahamas all work so I never see them. Parents work all day to support my brother and I, and my brother is always busy so I don't see much of him. I basically spent 6 months alone and I just wanted it to end so I took the test hoping I would somehow get 143-146 and get into law somewhere not horrible move on with my life, by being a hard working and SOCIAL human being. I ironically got a 136 on the December test so I probably wont get in anywhere decent unless its some kind of conditional acceptance deal. We all know I need to retake it. My mother is against it because she saw what being alone for 6 months did to me. So she made me apply to some schools I still kind of have a shot at so I obeyed. But part of me does not want to be the guy who scraped his way into law school with a 136. Most of us know that the process works. We just need to have the passion to pursue our goals. I believe I CAN DO THIS, but I need help. As I said, I want to try what @kimmy_m66 did by spending a month to Foolproof 1-35 and then resume PTing in February doing at least one a week. Is there anyone who is also about do that or something similar? I need a study partner to go through it with me, because If I go through with this retake, I have to spend another 5 months in my room, but I can't do it alone, not anymore.

Quick question - I have the beginners (basic) subscription to 7sage and was wondering if people Go through The CC in order. Is there a reason this subjects are ordered this way? Should I study in a different order?

Hi Guys,

I found 7sage late in my studies, only after I read the powerscore bibles, and after I had enrolled in the Testmasters course. During my Testmasters course I found myself referring to JY's explanations for the logic games over the method that Testmasters used.

I was scoring in the mid 150's with my diagnostics. Since getting my December score I've decided to take a look at the CC as see if I can help my score.

I am very discouraged, and my confidence is totally shaken.

What do you guys think about doing the test on February? I am still doing the syllabus and I have not taken any PT... I am freaking out! Any tips/comments?

I took the December exam and got a score of 161. It was the 1st time I took the exam and scored approx. 3 points lower than I was scoring prior to the exam. I am applying to UCI Law and was wondering if you guys think I should retake in February or not. My GPA is 3.45

UCI's 25 percentile GPA: 3.38 and LSAT 160.

50 percentile GPA: 3.57 and LSAT 163.

75 percentile GPA 3.68 and LSAT 165.

I know my numbers are a bit higher than the 25th percentile but I'm not sure if they're strong enough. Any advice or opinion would be greatly appreciated.

(upside down face emoji)

yup, I made a bubbling error and just now realized it. I thought I was just really ass at this test, and although that is true, I misbubbled an entire RC passage and more than half of the wrong answers I got wrong in 1 of the LRs. I know this because I explicitly remember the answers I chose, and I started searching for more bubbling errors after I looked at that T Rex question and remembered I chose what is the right answer (after reading it like 5 times lol) but my answer sheet says otherwise.

was not going to do another retake but I think I may do feb. UGH

Hello everyone, so I usually get 155 on my PT but unfortunately I got 150 on the December test. Since I already applied for law schools, I want to try again and write the Feb test. I usually do perfect on the game section and need to improve my LR and RC skills. Do you guys have any suggestions on how to improve in a month? I would truly appreciate any suggestions.

When I first received my score from the September LSAT, I was discouraged. I scored a 151, well below my expectations. Powerscore simply wasn't working for me. I made the switch to 7sage, which might have been the best thing I could have done honestly. J.Y makes things so easy to understand, and it really helped me better myself at LR and RC.

Anyways, ended up with a 160 on this LSAT.

Moral of the story, YOU CAN DO IT! You can definitely increase your totals before February, I have faith in each and every one of you.

:)

There is so much study material out there. Also, certain company's have better material for particular sections. Like I really like the Powerscore Bibles, but I didn't find the RC as helpful as the other bibles. Any thoughts?

Also, do you think it's best to complete the 7sage syllabus going straight down? Thanks a lot!

Sorry. Might have missed this. What is this foolproofing everyone is talking about? Or where can I find the explanation?

I wanna get into a t14 with a 3.82 gpa and a 170 score. Improved from my 158. TLS scare posts have gotten to me and I don’t think it’s just bougie pretentious nonsense when people push how important it is to go to a t14.

Honestly I think I’m just one of those stupid smart people who kind of self sabotage so I don’t think I can self study. My diagnostic score was the same as what I got on the exam after really isolating from friends and fam and studying like 30+ hours a week for months. I was kind of just trying to memorize without really understanding and once I figured out what I did wrong I was just like okay I get it now and moved on and made the same mistakes again.

I have a year before the December LSAT. I know that everyone says don’t do a prep course bc it just goes over the basics but I don’t think I understand the basics. I think I might need it just to get me going and force me to study smarter for a few months and then I’ll self study for the remainder of time. Is this a totally awful idea? Which course should I do?

Hello 7Sagers,

I have been studying for about a year. It's time for me to change my strategy. I have some lazy habits that I am determined to change. Has anyone else viewed the webinar "Our 89 Point Increase Story"? Here is the link in case you want to hear some inspirational advice: https://classic.7sage.com/webinar/our-89-point-increase-story/.

The most concrete inspirational takeaway for me was that studying for the LSAT reflects my work ethic. Ouch! In undergrad, I had a very strong work ethic but I'll admit that I have not turned it up enough notches for the LSAT. It's time to change that because I eventually want to be done with the LSAT. Tonight I am creating my "task board", something that worked for me in undergrad.

Does anyone else have a strategy that took them from simply studying to becoming methodically focused on the curriculum and self-care needed to do their best? I literally have to have my task board in my face to be sure I do this right.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah

Hi guys. Long time lurker here, but I felt really compelled to write this. I want to say a huge thank you to J.Y. and all of the 7Sage team for providing an invaluable and, amazingly, free resources in your LG video explanations and the analytics tools. Not having a lot of money to put into my prep meant that getting the most out of free resources such as these was a must. After getting the basics down from the Trainer, the LG videos here became a key to my LG learning, while the analytics made it possible to track weaknesses and progress. @"J.Y. Ping": If there is a chance that you see this, I would like you to know that this website has made a huge difference for me.

I also want to thank, from the bottom of my heart, to everyone on this forum who takes time to share so many helpful things about specific question approaches, skipping strategies, test day mindset, avoiding burnout, etc. I have implemented many of the things I found through lurking around this forum into my prep, and these things have also made a tremendous difference for me. Putting all these to work, I was able get from a low (embarrassingly low) start and a really disappointing first take, to a score I could only dream about before. Hopefully someone reading this will also take from it that an LSAT setback should not mean the end.

Congratulations to all who are now done with the test, and good luck to all of you who are still in the process.

So I scored a 135 on my LSAT and I am shocked. I printed out the test from LSAC and retook it under test conditions as a practice. I scored a 165 and I'm confused. Maybe I did not eat a good breakfast or I was completely nervous about the whole thing. Someone help me understand where I did wrong. I had to rush my last passage off my RC and I did completely fine on LG on test day.

I just took the December LSAT and got the score I needed. Now I am going to finish up my law school applications and submit them in the next couple of weeks. After that I will begin studying for the GMAT.

I started studying for the LSAT using Kaplan. It didn't work too well for me. I found 7sage and had a 12 point increase in my score by studying 6 weeks leading up to the test.

I am wondering if any of you are doing the JD/MBA and if so what prep courses you have found that are similar to the 7sage style.

Thanks in advance!