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Monday, Apr 10, 2017

RC advice?

Hey everyone. So I've been going at it with this test for more than a year now. I used to solely rely on the memory method and no notations, but now for the past few months I've been doing Nicole's notation strategy with a small kick of just writing like 1 or 2 words next to each paragraph (e.g. background info, evidence, and so on).

I haven't seen improvement the way I would like to, and RC is the only section holding me back from getting into the 170's. I'm like a machine on LR and LG, but RC just doesn't seem to want to work with me. I miss mostly detail and inference questions, and I usually can always get the bigger picture questions right such as MP and function of a paragraph ones.

I'm starting to get frustrated as even when I do passage untimed, I still cannot go perfect on them and sometimes miss an embarrassing amount. I read for structure, tone, etc. and all of that good stuff but nothing!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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I wanted to share a strategy that's been working for me.

When I do BR, my question isn't "am I comfortable with this question?". My question is rather, "did I tackle this question in the most efficient way possible?" Because in a lot of cases, I might be comfortable with a question, have gotten it right, but have spent way more time than needed. Also, there's usually a reason why I spent more time than needed: I might be lacking some crucial skills.

I time myself not just the overall time spent on a section, but the time I took for each question. If I thought a question was easy, but spent over 1:25+, I didn't solve that question as efficiently as possible. If the reason, for example, is because I didn't identify the conclusion in the most precise way and had to go back to the stimulus, that tells me that I still need to work on identifying the conclusion precisely. I need to improve on that skill.

So here's what I do.

  • Did I tackle this question in the most efficient way possible?
  • Why didn't I ? Where did I spend too much time?
  • What does that mean? What skill might I need to improve on? (be specific with the skill: need to pay more attention to the logical indicators, need to identify the conclusion correctly...etc)
  • After writing down the skill needed to solve the question more efficiently, compile them and try to find a general trend. What skill do I need to work on in general?
  • Before starting the next PT, write down on the section: pay special attention to this skill as I am tackling this PT.
  • Repeat

    I think this helps me to

  • Identify and consciously focus on the skills that I need to work on
  • Care more about building the right habits and skills than getting the questions right or wrong
  • minimize gap btw the actual score and the BR score, because I am mastering the techniques to be efficient during the actual exam.
  • GRANTED, there are still some questions that I have absolutely NO IDEA about even after BR.

    Those require the most analysis.

    But usually my actual and BR scores are pretty similar.

    FYI tho, this strategy takes A LONG TIME in the beginning. Sometimes I take 3~4 hours BRing a single section. But I think it's worth it.

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    This post is inspired by some of the really great conversation I saw after @"Alex Divine" posted a thread for full time LSAT prep folks. I'm kind of in the opposite situation, I have not one, but two careers, one that regularly takes over 45 hours a week of my time. I squeeze in prep all over my day (an hour at lunch at work, in the evening after work, in the morning before I leave, and a lot on the weekends I don't work) and somedays unfortunately I can't do more than a single problem set or read the discussion boards. I imagine there are a fair number of 7Sagers in the same boat, either because of their career or because of family commitments or both.

    So what has helped part timers prepare for the LSAT and be successful? Anyone who has previously taken the LSAT and/or been admitted to law school have any advice? Any suggestions on how to maintain motivation even when a problem set and blind review means going to bed an hour later? Where does our strategy diverge from folks who commit a more steady set of hours each day to studying? Would love to hear thoughts or other folks questions!

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    After browsing several LSAT forums and websites, there seems to some sort of unofficial consensus (though not everywhere) that three months is adequate time to study and prep for the LSAT? The LSAT is a beast of a test and I could not imagine leaning the foundation, taking enough PTs all in three months (without severe burnout), and expecting to do reasonably well. I understand that people can learn at different rates but if the 7sage core curriculum and the 7sage discussion board has taught me is that slow and steady really does win the race. Just wanted to get peoples thoughts on this, I just found it interesting!

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    I've been studying seriously since February and am worried about my progress. I started with a 134 cold diagnostic and the highest PT ive gotten is a 156. My score has been stagnant for a while. LR was my weakest section so I focused on that for 2 months and haven't gotten much better (still averaging -12 to -8). I'm not sure what to do since Im registered for the June test. A 160 is all i really want. Should I focus on all sections of the test again or stay focused on LR for now?

    Thanks

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    Hi all,

    I'm really new to this, just started the Ult+ class on Monday. I'm a little bit confused about the best way to use the curriculum. Should I be completing all of the problem sets during each lesson, or saving some material for later? I am also especially asking about the Intro to Logic section; did people do all the quizzes right away, or save some to circle back to for practicing and studying down the line?

    Sorry, I know some variations of this have been asked elsewhere, but I couldn't seem to find an active thread to ask in. I just don't want to miss out on any good techniques!

    Thanks!

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    I have to say that I have been using the Ticonderoga Blacks for the past week and I am really enjoying them. Oddly, I find that my LG diagramming has been MUCH neater since I began using them -- odd. Anyway, I feel more comfortable writing with these pencils and that is enough to convert me.

    Obviously, I don't expect any sort of score increase merely form pencil choice, but just like doctors and waiters give thought to their shoe choice, LSAT preppers may consider giving thought to their pencil choice. : )

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    Hey guys. About to do my first timed LSAT as a diagnostic as per the syllabus. Since this will be the first test I take as well as being the first time I go through actual questions, is blind reviewing worth it? Since I don’t know the tactics to take on LG and RC (etc) , will blind reviewing be worth the time even if I don’t fully understand how to answer the questions?

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    Howdy 7 Sagers

    So I signed up for this curriculum about a month ago, and am a little under half way through the core curriculum. Thus far when I take take the problem sets I feel fairly good about them, but some days still feel discouraged. Does this test ever get simpler? Also if anyone is still in their Undergrad, or took this test while in their undergrad, and has tips I would greatly appreciate that. I'm taking the September LSAT and would like to score 165+. Thanks friends!

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    Hey Guys,

    I am wondering what you guys do with the questions/sections that you missed (due to time, etc) when doing BRM. For example, if you did not answer 10 questions do you circle them all and come back to them like you would normally the 2nd time around?

    Would they still count towards your BRM score?

    Thanks for the help!

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    For those of you that are registered... I had to send in a confirmation email to DigitalLSAT@LSAC.org in order to confirm my participation today. Otherwise, according to email, my seat would have been released. Perhaps an oversight on my part from the original email? Just wanted to give everyone a heads up who hadn't done so.

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    Hi Everyone, my first post on here wanted to get some answers on this.

    So i believe that I am good at reading No statements. However, I want to be sure that I am translating/understanding them correctly. I still feel iffy when reading no statements from time-to-time. Is there any advice you can give or a rule of thumb that I should consider.

    I know "No" is a group 4 translator and all that this encompass. However, when reading a statement like, "No single species of dinosaur lived throughout the entire Mesozoic era"

    Can this be said as: Every single species of dinosaurs did not live throughout the entire Mesozoic era

    or

    Can this be said as: All single species of dinosaurs did not live throughout the entire Mesozoic era

    Also, is there any other words that I can use besides "Every" and "All" that can break down No statements.

    Thanks a bunch guys! Appreciate any response back.

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    Hi all,

    What's your pre- preptest routine? I want to have it become automatic before the June, or September, lsat.

    This is what I was thinking (and I haven't actually done this, it's theoretical):

  • Meditation (10 minutes on the "Calm" app)
  • Light breakfast, (10 minutes)
  • A short jog (20 minutes)
  • Warmup of LG/LR. (20 minutes).
  • Total time: 1 hour.

    Thoughts? Any additions-subtraction?

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    I've been studying the LSAT for a little more than 3 months now, and I've greatly improved in RC. But LR is an issue. I finished the CC about two weeks ago and started taking timed individual LR sections to see where I stand in terms of LR, and the results are not so great. I took four timed individual sections from (PT36 and PT37) and got -6, -9, -8, and -8. BR turned out to be -5, -8, -4, -5, respectively. For the first two timed individual sections, I didn't use a clean copy for BR, which is why I think there wasn't such a big difference between the scores. But really, am I just expecting too much from myself? I'm trying to bring down my LR score to -1/-2 before I start full PT mode, but I don't really know how I can reach it. In terms of timing, I do skip difficult ones and end up finishing all the questions with about 5 minutes to spare. If anyone has any advice then I would really appreciate it!

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    Found this earlier and it's working quite well so far. I've been dealing with birds and landscapers for the last couple days, and I know I'm not the only one with this problem.

    But if any hunters want to come deal with the bird that flies in to my windowpane at 3PM everyday, feel free to swing by. Very bizarre, annoying phenomenon.

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    Anybody else having trouble printing out the logic game bundle for pt 1-35? I have tried at home at and at work it will only let me print 60 out of the 300 something pages for some strange reason.

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    So I have been pondering trying to obtain a low level, entry position in a law firm before I actually go to law school in 2018. I don't really have any experience in a firm and would like to gain that experience so I have a better understanding of how firms flow. This on top of trying to narrow down possible types of law I would like to pursue.

    I don't really know what kind of position I can obtain without a J.D. so I'm curious what kind of firm jobs people have gotten (and the pay you received if you don't mind sharing; I have bills to pay haha). I do have my bachelor's in political science and just finished the CC so I feel like I have a bit more flexibility to do this now.

    I would love to hear y'all's thoughts and experiences! Thanks and Gig'em!!!

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    Just completed the crash course workshop with the LSAT god JY. I can tell you this much, any second spent with the master(JY) makes you a better candidate for the LSAT. He explains everything so well and forces you to think. Though I wish the days could have been longer but I am so happy and blessed to have been a part of the session. Good job JY you are really great at what you do. For anyone who is new to 7sage or who is just scouting for the best study material look no further this is the material to use.

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    Hey everyone,

    I started the CC in January, and I have only completed 23% (Ultimate+). I paid for the June test thinking I would be ready, but obviously that's not the case. I am guessing that I will start PT'ing by July 1st for sure, but that would leave 2 solid months of PT exams, which is like 8 total exams if I am lucky and doing a comprehensive overview.

    I am thinking that December would be an ideal date for me, and I know that it will give me enough time to practice at the score I need. However, I am worried about leaving it to the last possible chance, what if something happens that day?? My top two law schools don't take the February test either, and I really do NOT want to extend another year in my undergrad (I am going on my fifth now).

    I was thinking of just writing in September, and then I can still use December as a back-up (which, like I said, is probably the best option considering it gives me enough time to really go through the CC and to do enough PT exams).

    Any thoughts on this?

    Thanks!

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