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Hello everyone,

I have been studying for a month, and have been struggling to improve my LSAT score. I am stuck at an average of 144 in my last four LSAT prep tests. Should I just give up at this point?

I do well in the Logical reasoning (20/25 avg.), but struggle greatly with logic games and reading comprehension (struggle is an understatement). I was supposed to write my LSAT on Saturday, but withdrew (clearly, I am not ready).

It's a shame too, because my calculated uGPA was 4.01. :(

Please help.

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I took the LSAT in 2015. Before that I took 1 PT and did very little studying, virtually none other than reading the books about the LSAT that the LSAC sells. I am finally finished with undergrad. Have a very part-time job working from home. I am now able to dedicate a ton of time to studying. I'd like to take the Feb '18 LSAT. Still with little studying, yet, I took two PTs this week so far, and am at 142. Given my less than desirable GPA my LSAT score needs to be 150+ to get into a school in Ohio or Michigan. If I can dedicate 25+ hours per week over the next 10 weeks, is it humanly possible to raise 10 points? I'll purchase the starter, I did complete like 20% of the CC before but wasn't focusing as much as I should, I was still in UG. But now, I have the time to study and want to take advantage of it while I can. Any tips for studying over the next 10 weeks? Should I continue to take PTs for practice each week or wait until I finish the CC to take anymore?

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Hey so I was doing some surfing on eBay for cyber Monday of course, and I came across someone selling their LSAT materials, I guess they got what they wanted out of them. This is the most interesting one I saw, a bundle of PT 7-80, which is awesome! Go get it folks! There’s also the Powerscore trilogy and The LSAT Trainer on there as well.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F272957510189

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Hi guys,

I need some advice before the exam on Saturday.

My scores are very inconsistent :(

On LR, one section i can do -4 and on another it can be as bad as -8 to -10 sometimes. Is this normal between the two sections??

Also for games, if I stay calm throughout the whole section, I can usually do -4. however on those miscellaneous games, I can't seem to do those for the most part. I went back and foolproofed all of the Cambridge packets for LG couple weeks ago. It was a good refresher!

I need to do good on LR and LG because there is really no hope of me improving on RC.

For RC it can be -7 to -15... I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING for RC. I have read thru LSAT trainer, printed cambridge packets (everything!) I either get the passages or I don't. I don't feel like wasting my time with RC.

I hope to score in the 157 to 160 range and I can PT around there but I don't know what else I should be doing at this point! I plan on taking a PT tomorrow. Is it a bad idea to review every single LR question type before the exam? Or should I just be doing timed sections? I took the entire week from work off, hoping to make the most of it by going to the library everyday till Thursday but I also don't want to burn myself out.

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Last comment tuesday, nov 28 2017

ticket photo

So in all the prep madness, I just now got around to printing my ticket. I now see that my photo is a little bit smaller than the requirement and shadows on my face. I took it with my phone. I'm freaking out. what should I do?

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Last comment tuesday, nov 28 2017

Burnout Management

Well, it's official. I'm burnout in my final week.

Over the last 3.5 months, I've written an average of 4-6 PTs a week, with that number having increased towards the 6 figure over the past month. My PT average over the last 2 months has been ~175, but the last few weeks have been a real kick in the confidence. My last 7 PTs have been a 168/170/175/174/176/173/173. Eliminating the 168 outlier, they're objectively not that far off, but subjectively, they've been the worst exams I'm written in 2+ months. I'm having trouble focusing (both cognitively, but also in terms of vision) and I'm running out of time on sections that I was comfortably completing in 32-33 minutes a month ago. In past, my distribution of incorrect answers by section was relatively even, but recently it seems to manifest in a blowup on one section (-5/-6 + on one section).

The stress has been getting to me and I'm consistently waking up after ~2 hours of sleep and rarely able to get back to sleep after. All things considered, I'd say I've been averaging ~3 hours of sleep a night, and not for a lack of trying. I'm always waking up with dreams of logic games or a tough RC passage. The lack of sleep is definitely impacting my ability to "cope" with tough sections/questions and my nerves are shot.

I'm trying to determine the best way to get back on track. Priority # 1 is to get some sleep. Lots of sleep. And then some more sleep. There's a large part of me that's inclined to sit back and take the next four days off. Alternatively, I've considered 2 days off, a final PT on Thursday and then1 day off.

For those that have been burned out in past, how significantly did it impact your ability to focus? What kind of drop did you see in PTs? How did you manage it?

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To all my American 7Sagers out there, happy Thanksgiving! Remember to take some time today to be with your friends/family/loved ones or just food. Put the pencil down for a couple hours today. The LSAT will still be here tomorrow! Relax! Do something you love and make sure you pig out on your favorite food!!

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Hi all. I'm registered for the December test -- but don't feel like I've maximized my potential. I am getting in the 171 - 175 range, but consistently get at least 2-3 (sometimes much more) wrong in LG. I have done weeks/months of foolproofing and have seen significant improvement, but still not where I can get to a -0. I am thinking about postponing to feb, but that obviously means I will have to postpone a cycle. The reason why I am thinking about postponing is because I really want Y (academia), and they seem to care about how many takes you have. I'm aiming for a 175 +. Plan on spending the last two months (if I postpone) finishing up PTs (I've only taken around 15-20) and then drilling LG.

Two questions:

  • Should I postpone if I am gunning hard for Yale? I have a 4.1 GPA and was thinking a 174-175 score would really give me a good shot.
  • Have any of you heard of someone taking an extra year and regretting it? I am 1.5 years out and itching to go to law school. I feel it could be helpful to stay one more year... but I don't want to keep wasting my time.
  • Thanks for all the help!!!

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    So I took PT80 in the morning and I scored my highest yet, but for some reason since the score is about +5 higher than what I usually average I am confused if this was an easy test or if something actually clicked in my head. Any experiences or thoughts on PT 80 ?

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    Hey guys! If you're taking the LSAT and your account is inconveniently set to expire a few days before the test date, just email me (dillon@7sage.com) and I'll extend your account for free through the December test. (Make sure you include your 7Sage email!)

    I can guarantee you that my inbox will fill up with these, so give me time to reply to them all. If your account expires by the time I get to your email, don't worry, I'll reactivate it for you. :)

    For those of you who are expiring after, good luck on the LSAT! We here at 7Sage are rooting for you.

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    Hey guys!

    So I'm taking the test next Saturday and as it gets closer, I've had to continually remind myself of WHY I want to go. What's my drive for putting myself through this? I think we get so caught up in taking the test, we forget what the end result is - to go to law school and become a lawyer. So, I'm curious and figured I'd ask: what schools are people hoping to go to and why? Basically, "What do you want to be when you grow up?"

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    Hello! My 7Sage course is going to expire after the December test day, which is hopefully going to be a permanent situation cause we're all gonna rock the LSAT!

    Anyway, I was wondering if "My Notes" also get deleted/cleared when the course expires? Cause I did take a bunch of notes and I was hoping to keep them.

    Thanks in advance for your knowledge!

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    Hi,

    I'm quite certain I will be taking the test in Feb/June since I know I haven't reached my potential. I'm signed up for the December test and have been studying for about 3-4 months now. Most forums advice you to postpone the test and take it when you're ready. However, I don't understand what the drawbacks are if I do take the December test.

  • From my understanding only Yale averages scores
  • Giving the test in an actual testing environment may help calm nerves for the retake since no matter how strictly you take the PT's, the actual test, I presume, is a completely different experience.
  • When there were limited takes, it made sense not to waste a take, but is that relevant now?
  • I have been considering to to take December instead of withdrawing since i've lost the money anyway, but want to be sure if there are any drawbacks for giving the test that I haven't looked into.

    Thanks in advance

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    Last comment monday, nov 27 2017

    Is this normal?

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    So the first time I took the LSAT I had a “mental breakdown” (just kidding) because people stresssd me out for no reason lol.

    I’m apparently

    Losing me mind the second time around because I no joke had a dream about logic games. Is this normal?

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    Last comment monday, nov 27 2017

    Question about re-taking

    I’m taking the test in December but I’m planning to re-take in February if I don’t achieve a high enough score. (I’m really close to my goal but not consistent enough that I feel confident I’ll achieve it in December.) I’m planning on applying for next fall. My question is, if I don’t score high enough in December will I be rejected from schools based on that score or will they wait for my February score? Alternatively, could I be jeopardizing my chances of being admitted based on my December score if schools see I’m registered for February so they don’t consider me until then and spaces get filled?

    If anyone knows how this works I would be grateful! Thanks :)

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    On my lsat ticket I have a photo where I don’t have a beard. I have a beard now. Should I shave? (I think I should) Do you think I’m gonna have problems being let in the testing room? I’ve been studying like crazy so I would be traumatized if my beard got in the way (it’s not even that long!) (this post was comic relief. Kind of but not really) Happy Studying!

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    Hi all,

    So I'm feeling bummed out because I'm a month behind in studying - I was sick for 3 weeks and could barely study during that time then had a family reunion overseas during Thanksgiving and wasn't able to study at all. I was on track to complete the CC by December 31 and want to make sure I make that deadline as I've been studying the core curriculum for 7 months now and would like to move on to the next step by the new year as I am aiming for June 2018 testing date.

    So my question is - has anyone skipped some of the LG section on the CC since they were planning on doing the LG Bundle? I've completed about half of the LG section in the curriculum and am thinking of skipping the rest to complete the last RC questions buy 12/31 so I can stay on track. I plan on doing the LG bundle, so am thinking skipping this last bit of the section won't be a big deal.

    Is this a bad plan?

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    Last comment saturday, nov 25 2017

    Inconsistent scores in LR

    My test is on 3rd December. I have improved in RC from -10 to -15 to -3 to -5 but my LR is has become very inconsistent. I was at -3 to -5 a week back. But now I'm at -1 to -9. I don't know what this is suddenly happening. I have noticed that I do better when I don't have anything else on the back of my mind. But the inconsistency is really bothering me now.

    Do you guys have any advice for me?

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    Last comment saturday, nov 25 2017

    From a 153 PT to a 172 BR

    I just competed test number 71. I was super frustrated when my score dropped on my practice test to a 153. But then super excited to get my highest BR score ever, a 172. I have never had such a huge gap between the two. Usually my BR is only 7-10 points higher than my PT. Not really sure what to infer from this though.

    Have any of you had this happen?

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    Last comment saturday, nov 25 2017

    Study advice

    Question? As you study, is it better to study each section and master how to do that section (ex. Main Point) before moving onto the next section (ex. MSS) or is it better to just learn the concept (ex MP-the answer choice will paraphrase) and move onto the next section knowing you are still getting alot wrong. But believing the blind review section is where you are suppose to master the skill.

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    Hey everyone,

    I'm sure there are several past posts like this, but -- for anyone taking the upcoming December test -- I think it's important to clarify: quality over quantity.

    I originally planned on taking a preptest a day to get through some stray 60s tests I didn't do + the entire 70s series + available 80s before the LSAT. After an unexpected day off a couple days ago, I went -1 on the whole LR section. I had never done that before. I was probably averaging around -4 to -6 combined. Out of curiosity, I decided to only drill LG the next day and BR a little on RC and LR, without doing any new questions. Took another preptest after that break and went -2 combined. A third preptest produced the same result, all but confirming what JY already tells us (but what many of us are probably reluctant to accept): do not PT more than 3 times a week.

    I've let go of the idea of doing the whole 70s series before the December test (other than LG), and I've accepted that the brain is not a computer; we don't choose when and how often it can be charged to satisfaction. For me, doing a preptest every other day has produced a consistent jump in scores that I hardly attribute to "knowing more." So, if you're cramming for the test, consider taking a break from this stuff. I know for one that I'm not touching anything LSAT related the day before.

    Best of luck on the final stretch

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