I had a quick question.

I noticed that on my CRS that my actual transcripts aren't included. Do law schools not have access to the classes that I took?

Here are three of mine. If you're feeling it, list some of yours to help a brother out.

1. Big dreams take time - society demands that you be more impressive and they demand it now; LSAC demands that you be more impressive, but at a time convenient to you.

2. To clean your room well, it must first get dirtier. Decide how clean you want the room, and stay committed as the dirt reveals itself. Anticipate failure because if it was easy, it wouldn't be worth your ambition.

3. Your value as a human being is not determined by LSAC or by the expectations of your peers.

Hello fellow LSAT-takers,

The biggest thing I struggle with is knowing how much time to set per week to study for the LSAT. Like many other students, I tend to procrastinate way too much!! I am writing the June 2017 LSAT and hope to achieve a 170+. I am currently working part-time and I volunteer a lot. As of right now, I am beginning with the core curriculum and would like to know how much time you have dedicated per week in regards to studying. I know it varies from person to person but I really have to score this high on the June 2017 LSAT due to personal reasons. Let me know what you recommend or what study schedule has worked for you.

Thank you!

THey asked this question during the sending of the LOR. Is this to asking how many schools this LOR will be sent out to?

Hello, everyone. I'm about to get extremely personal but it's no secret for me and I'm looking for honest opinions. Some know that I'm a cancer survivor and those that don't know now! Ha! So has anyone ever heard of "chemo brain" or post-chemotherapy cognitive impairment? If not, let me be the first to tell you that it is real! I have definitely experienced chemo brain and struggle with it often. There are times when I just feel out of sync and I have to stop and think if I'm over doing it or if it's chemo brain rearing its ugly head again. I know that it affects me in my every day life but I've been reluctant to accept that it affects me in my LSAT life. I think this may be due to pride and just wanting to totally erase cancer from my life and move on. I have recently come to grips with saying that chemo brain is affecting my performance on the test and I'm thinking about applying for accommodations. I'm hesitant because I don't truly want to admit that cancer has again interrupted my life and I'm also going back and forth with thinking that accommodations would be "cheating." Also, chemo brain may be viewed as ADD or ADHD is sometimes viewed. I'm not saying that those conditions aren't real because I know that they are, but you know how people kinda give the side eye when those two are mentioned? That's probably how chemo brain would be viewed. I'm also not sure if anyone can put a timeframe on the effects of chemo brain because like cancer, it is different for everyone. Not all cancer patients experience it because it's linked to certain drugs and then not all that took that drug experience it. Anyway, sorry so long but what are your honest opinions on the whole situation? Should I, or should I not apply? What are your thoughts on chemo brain and getting accommodations for it? Is it cheating? Any thoughts and opinions are greatly welcomed. TIA

I took a cold diagnostic last month the day before Christmas eve and ended up with a 146. But after going through a whole curriculum with the online Testmasters course for about one month, I took another PT(21) just to see what my weaknesses and strengths were and got a 161 (BR 167). The breakdown was -8 LG -4 LR1 -7 LR2 -6 RC. I was generally happy with the improvement, albeit some of the logical reasoning questions were ones I've already seen before. I don't want to lose hope because initially I thought I was incapable of pursuing this task of defeating this ridiculously difficult standardized test. But I'm determined to try my best so I've signed up to take the real test in June. If my scores are not up to the range where I want it to be (preferably +170) then I'm willing to postpone. Some things I already know I have to work on are LG by doing the fool proof method from PT1-35 (recommended by 7sagers) which I'm currently in the process of doing. For LR, I'm not sure whether I should refer back to the fundamentals or simply hard core review the ones I've missed. All the questions I've missed are from #15 and onwards. Also timing is an issue for me for some reason. For RC, I definitely had time left to spare and I was sure about all my answers, but they turned out to be wrong unfortunately. I won't take another PT until I've fully gone through every single question I've missed as well as the ones I was unsure about and also I'm done with the LG fool proof method which will take me another 2 weeks I think. Any advice from any of the 7sagers will be much appreciated! I've been perusing through the discussion forums and everyone seems so friendly and almost all the advice I've seen are top-notch! Long story short, I'm happy to be part of this community!

P.S. I would also be willing to join in BR calls in the future if that's helpful as well.

So what are your thoughts? Have I really set myself back for getting from my official 159 to a 165 retake by using so many PTs?

Well! I have to say that I was pretty happy with my independent improvement from first PT (146) in August to official LSAT (159) in December. However, towards the end I was scoring mostly low160s and even a 165 so I really believe I am capable of a 163+ score. The fact that RC is my strongest section and that I studied without a proper curriculum to this point only strengthen my belief.

But now I am in, what feels like, an unideal position: I've drilled with or taken almost every PT from 52 through 75.

In the opening lessons of 7Sage core curriculum, JY says burning through PTs like that can do "irreparable damage". That language scares the crap out of me! I know that there are PLENTY of questions in those PTs which I have not yet mastered and there are lots of test taking strategies which I've yet to master as well, but I can't help but feel that having used so many PTs will only add to the difficulty of improving my score.

I am taking the February lsat and am scoring in the 159-163 range (one 159, one 160, and 2 163's). It's an improvement of 10-12 over my diagnostic so I am happy. Sad because I am convinced I could hit a 170 but alas.

Anyway, what is the average drop off that you guys have seen come test day? I will be pretty happy with a 160 to 165 since that will get me in to basically all schools in Texas outside of UT. I also want to be realistic come test day.

I have been testing with fairly standard conditions and have had some issues with timing on LG (I average around -6 whether I go over or under). I assume that opens the possibility of missing 2-3 questions come test day.

I am timing well on LR and averaging -5. RC is anywhere between -6 to -8.

So, I was recently accepted into a school with a decent amount of scholarship money. I scheduled a tour to see the school. I was just notified that I also will have a one on one with the admissions director. To meet and address any concerns I may have. What are some questions I should ask?

AHH, nervous!

I'm sure this is on the website and has been answered before, but I'm the worst incarnate so:

Are the practice questions in the curriculum taken from older LSATs (1-40) or newer?

I don't want to ruin my PTs by pre-exposure as I have a ballin' memory with answers in multiple choice...if only my brain powers were in concepts and not memorization.

Hi y'all,

I am looking to hire a personal tutor, and yes I've saved up for it because I know it'll be pricey, but does anyone have any ideas on reliable websites to use to find tutors in your area? Or does everyone who gets a tutor just kinda use craigslist lol?

Thanks in advance!

Hey everyone!

I got an email yesterday with an invite to interview at one of the law schools' I applied at.

Has anyone ever been to a law school interview?? What should I prepare? I'm guessing they will ask about weaknesses in my application, and maybe try to get to know me a little better??

Dumb question, but I can't seem to find which prep-tests are used in the core curriculum. I'm trying to buy them and just want to double check so I'm not buying the wrong thing. I believe its 1-35 but I'm not 100% sure. Thanks in advance!

Hi all,

I've been finding that the "anticipation" part of active reading for RC has been a challenge and doesn't come naturally for me. This act of asking myself why the author is telling me x has been an arduous, non-intuitive process. However during a break I took today, I watched a fascinating but morbid series on Netflix called "Historia de un clan," that is filled with suspense, crime, and dramatic moments. I started realizing that for many of the new faces and/or objects I saw the main characters interact with, I would think to myself why we are being given this detail by the show's creators. For example in one scene I asked myself, why is one of the supporting characters, a cold murderer, giving his half-eaten sandwich to a random panhandler? Is this panhandler going to be the next victim or is this a moment of genuine kindness? I think this act of anticipating is a way to prevent myself from being caught by surprise and not keel over from suspense. I hate scary surprises lol.

I know RC passages aren't as interesting and filled with suspense as crime series but this comparison clicked for me. I'm going to try and extend my desperate need/urgency to anticipate in suspenseful tv shows to reading RC passages. I find that adding an element of excitement in this way makes my reading engagement and my active reading more natural.

Is there generally a drop in the score of the actual test when compared to the prep tests? By how many points is this drop?

Hey, quick question. Can one go from

(X ---> Y) ---> Z

~Z ---> ~(X ---> Y)

To

Z & X ---> Y?

Intuitively I feel I can, but I don't recall that exact translation being in the CC. I recall that I could go from (X ---> Y) ---> Z to X & Y ---> Z, but not the one above. If i can make this inference, how and why?

Thanks!!

Hey, gang! I use a lot of different sources for explanations because I do not have them all here. I use the Kaplan explanations and I wanted to know if anyone knows where I can find all of the explanations? I haven't been able to find them all in one location. I always google something like, "Kaplan LSAT Explanation Prep Test xx," and I'll get the pdf for that PT. Does anyone know which ones are available, or where I can find all? I haven't been able to find some here and there and there isn't much to google other than what I provided above. I tried dl.keywin.org but didn't get anything. TIA

When you don't have the will to keep going, remember all the reasons why you're pursuing that JD. First, we take on the LSAT.

Happy MLK Day!

June'17 Study Group | PT C2

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Note:

* For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

* Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

* These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

* The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

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Hi everyone,

At some point I will find a study buddy, but I have a question...

Has anyone studied with a partner that is not familiar with the LSAT? I going to have my husband help me to review flashcards, and I've talked to him about some of the LR concepts. It was helpful to discuss it with him even though I was still shaky on my explanations and understanding of the concepts. He's interested in helping me and it's a nice way to spend time together so that I am not ignoring him while I study every night. Has anyone else tried studying like this? Does anyone have any suggestions on how this could be useful and not a waste of precious study time?

Thanks.

Hello all, long time lurker here. I am a non-traditional student finishing up my applications for Fall 2017.

I thought a thread dealing with problems faced by OWLS (older, wiser law students/applicants) might be useful.

Here are some questions I have. Some are specific to OWLS; others might apply to everyone.

1) I did OK on my first LSAT but thought I could do much better because I was PTing much higher. With more practice I took the LSAT again in December but got sick with a virus on test day. Even though I was sick I went through with the test. Score went DOWN five whole points. Ugh, I guess I should have cancelled. I would like to take again (maybe I will, in June) but due to family situation and finances I absolutely have to go ahead and apply now for 2017 admission or I probably can't go to law school. So I am faced with a decision. Some of my schools say that even though they take the highest LSAT, in the case of multiple LSAT scores one should write an addendum if a score change is "significant." I think a 5 point drop is significant; but what does everyone else say? How would you deal with this?

2) How are you OWLS handling the employment section on applications? I've worked in many jobs going back several decades. Applications say to list all employment but do they really mean jobs like 2 weeks in a mini-golf back in the summer of 1986, which is now out of business and the owner is probably dead? Is there a limit to how many jobs can be listed in this section? (I haven't started entering mine yet, so any advice is appreciated.)

3) What about the Activities section on the same page with Employment... it says to rank your activities in order of what they mean to you. But seriously at this point in my life was my membership in the state champion Women's College Glee Club in 1988 more or less important than my volunteer work at a local church nine years ago? It's like comparing ancient apples and oranges, plus these things are on my resume anyway.

4) Resume -- how many pages? One admission dean I spoke with said that for someone my age he wants to see me take as many pages as I need and list pretty much everything (I ended up with three pages) but what do you all think?

Please fellow OWLS, throw out more questions and answers. Let's help each other. Thanks in advance, and to any admissions pros who reply too!

Do you guys remember the last game on Dec 2016's PT? The one with real state companies and interchangeable buildings. I am searching for games similar to that for extra practice. Please let me know which PTs/games have similar scenario! I totally froze on that game because it was so out of my comfort zone and it felt quite open ended in the way the rules were interacting with one another (in a sense that I could not divide the game in to sub-game boards). Thanks!

Hello all,

After a less than stellar December sitting I'm going to start going through the curriculum again from the ground up .

It'd be really cool to find someone to study with on a reg basis.

Are there any montrealers on the forum who want to meet up to study on a reg basis ?

Thanks

I am studying to take the LSAT this February, approximately three weeks away. I am taking three practice test per week to prep me the for the real thing. As of now, I just got to LSAT PT61. Therefore, I will only be able to get to LSAT PT70.

Should I skip the 60's PT LSATs and go to the 70's PT LSATs, or it does not make a difference?????

I ask this because I am thinking that maybe I need to be more familiar with the latest trends.

Please let me know, thank you.

This question was removed from scoring. Weird! It's extremely rare to see a games question removed from scoring so I'm really curious what this question was.

Can someone explain some of the differences between theses test?

Any new trends in games, LR or RC????

Anything new to look out for?

Please convey.