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So I had my first take of the LSAT in December, after studying pretty much every day while working full-time for the 4 months prior. I obviously haven't received my score yet, but I did poorly enough on the logic games that I know I didn't hit my target score (173+), so I decided to delay my applications a year and retake in June. I didn't quite reach the point of full burnout, but I definitely needed some time off. My question: how long do I wait before jumping back into a study schedule?

I can't take the February test because I'm probably going to be traveling for work that month, but I do worry that a full 6 months of dedicated studying on top of what I've already done will lead to severe burnout unless I strategize properly. Any advice?

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I got the most unexpected and awesome call from a Palo Alto area code yesterday, and it's in large part because of the people who built this site and all those who have made this such a wonderful community. My diagnostic score was a 154. Believe in yourself, be disciplined, and trust in the process. Oh, and watch all of JY's LG videos ;)

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So on the side menu of the app there are logic game videos that e plain the questions and gives the answers. But where do you get the questions from? I see they are from a prep test but what prep test?

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Hey again everyone!

I was wondering what the biggest difference was between older and newer/more recent PT's? Which are more difficult? Are there certain sections that are considerably different? I have pretty much decided to postpone the February LSAT once again, but I really think I should be ready to go by June.

Any tips or suggestions would be gladly accepted, thank you all!

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I just finished the Assumptions and Weakening lessons. I feel like I'm following the subject matter and doing well on the questions, but sometimes get confused when I read everyone's comments and they split hairs about the difference between what is the premise and what is support. Are the terms not interchangeable? I understand the basic concept of the premise supporting the conclusion, but feel like maybe I'm missing something. Can someone explain the difference to me?

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Tuesday, Dec 20, 2016

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If you've taken two LSAT exams back to back, did you see a increase or decrease in your score? By how many points? Is there an average number of points that repeat LSAT takers gain or lose?

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I was just wondering if anyone has any general information on spring starts in law school. I've been advised by a couple lawyers that it's always a viable option if for some reason a normal Fall start couldn't work, but I'd like to know if the community has anything better. I obviously would rather start in the Fall, but I'm weighing all my options and am making sure I have more than just a plan B if needed, so any pros/cons, concrete information would be awesome. Thanks in advance!

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Recently I have been having a lot of success during exercises for LR. This, to me, is a miracle since it was my weakness and what hampered me from breaking the stubborn plateau I was in. Anyway, I have found that actually drawing out LR passages when needed (SA, MBT, MBF, PSA, INF,etc) has really helped me break through some of the toughest questions. I still have issues with certain questions, obviously, but I can see a light at the end of the LR tunnel specifically because I am beginning to visualize what is occurring in the passage.

With that said, the margins we have for drawing on the exam are small, and I know I will be cutting it close if I try to visualize too much. My assumption is that, per each LR section, there are around 10-12 questions that are easily solved via visualization ( SA, MBT, MBF, etc, etc) and the drawing and analysis normally gives me an answer time of 1 minute to 2:15 depending on the difficulty of the question.

Do you guys waste time drawing and visualizing things on paper? Or have you gotten to a test taking point where visualization is mental? I would, obviously, prefer that method but am not sure I can get my brain to see things that way. I have always been a "write it down or draw it out" type of learner.

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I am getting in a bit of a groove in terms of studying for this thing. I am finally picking off answers and my mind is growing to understand sentence structure as well as logic structure. With that said, I have had a pretty crazy study schedule, and am only going to afford around 12 PT's until the big kahuna in February.

February is going to be my first LSAT take, and if my current grasp of things continues, I think I may actually have something going (crossing fingers, because I am not testing but just doing random exercises and studying the curriculum intensely). OBviously, if I mess up, I am going to retake in June and September if necessary.

With that said, I will obviously know where I could be come the first few I take and BR. However, I want to make sure I have a grasp of exams that you guys feel were most challenging or best suited to prepare me for the current exam.

Which 12 would you pick?

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I know this may be a bit silly to ask, but I don't see this used anywhere else. What does the dash mean in reading comprehension passages? for example "Indeed, certain notables even called for the enslavement of unemployed laborers who roamed the british countryside -------- an acceptance of coerced labor that Eltis attributes to a preindustrial desire to keep labor costs low.......

what does that dash mean between countryside and the word AN

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So I recently finished the curriculum and took my first PT last Friday. I improved from my diagnostic but not by a considerable margin. I definitely struggled with pacing and made some errors that I usually wouldn't make. I'm hoping that my test anxiety will go away as I take more PTs and I will be able make the gains that I have been training for. Anyway, I am registered to take the February LSAT. How many prep tests do you all recommend is a good amount to take? My target score is a 165, but I'll be happy to break 160's.

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Hey guys, this might be a really silly question but do we need to include our names and a title for our personal statement? I finished mine and i realized I'm over the page limit by a few lines and I'm wondering if i have to leave my name and a title in there because if i don't, i can save space that way. thanks in advance!

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How would you go about drilling the Cambridge drill packets post-curriculum?

Do you think it would maybe be more productive if I was to just print out PTs 1-38 and drill all the questions based on section type?

I've been studying for a while now and feel that I have been making a lot of studying mistakes, so I'm looking for any kind of advice on how to reroute.

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the first time I took the test I got 12 on logic games , I then did games with 7sage first allowing 12 minutes an then listening to the explanations I repeated tough games and sought to get to 9 minutes and again listen to 7Sage strategies. On the first test I was very nervous running out of time. I did at least 50 games , using this course to check my strategies and answers about 2hours daily for 4-5 weeks and I got 22/23 . The two reasoning sections I kind of was a natural

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Hey guys! Looking for some advice....

Ok, I'm in a little bit of a bind regarding the professional LOR I am planning to ask my boss to write. I was hoping to ask next year since I will be applying next cycle. I wanted to be prepared to have a good conversation explaining why I want to go to LS, my LSAT score, future job prospects, etc... but unfortunately I'm finding myself having to do this much sooner.

My boss has been battling cancer BUT has been in great shape for a while. I was confident that I had some time to have the "LOR chat" but I just found out that he's hitting the last stretch of his battle (devastating, I know). I feel like I need to have the chat sooner rather than later. My problem is that I haven't taken the LSAT and I'm still researching law schools. I don't feel as confident going in having the conversation since my guess is that he'll grill me about the LSAT and schools (he's a very well known arbitrator-- he's known to grill with questions). I also don't want to sound insensitive going in asking for the letter.

I guess what I would like to know is how YOU would approach this?

Also, how does LSAC and/or schools look at letters that are written well in advance? Should there be mention of his illness? Not sure how to approach this when applying.

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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When I began studying for the LSAT I purchased two official LSAT "packs" that included LSAT's from June 1996 (when I was born) until October 2002 because they were cheaper than buying the more recent ones individually. I know that some of the old tests featured more frequent questions types that are perhaps less common, but what else? When I watched video explanations for some of the games JY would begin to talk about the format of the game and say something along the lines of "well this was a game from 97" as if its been phased out.

Any help would be much appreciated :)

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I have two academic LOR's already on file. However, one of them might be mediocre(ok but not "knock your socks off") but I don't know because I waived the rights to see it. So I want to get one from a volunteer advisor I volunteered under. How should the LOR be formatted(ex: paragraph 1:......paragraph 2:.......etc) and what should be discussed in each paragraph?

Also, should I send two academic LOR's only, two academic and the one from volunteer advisor or one academic and one from the volunteer advisor?

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Finishing the curriculum is an enormous accomplishment and you should be proud of yourself when you reach that milestone. But it can quickly start to feel a lot like this:

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The curriculum provides step by step instruction, not only on the concepts that must be mastered to beat the LSAT, but also on knowing exactly what to be doing in order to progress through your studies. Now that you're done, you're going to have to determine that for yourself, and how well you do that is enormously consequential. It is different for everyone, so this will not be ABC instructions to what to do after the curriculum. Rather, I hope it can serve as a guide for identifying the most effective study strategies for yourself based on your individual level and performance.

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Good evening fellow 7Sagers,

I am someone who suffers from anxiety and depression on a daily basis. For anyone that can relate, how would you go about improving on this exam? I find that although I know exactly what career path I want to be on and what needs to be accomplished in order to do so, I still find trouble being motivated to study, and when I do study I find myself constantly zoning out. I've been studying for several months, including taking a Blueprint course in a classroom setting which ended in September. However, I cannot seem to break low 150's on my PT's. My highest score is a 154 and that was only because I did not time myself and wound up finishing at least an hour over the typical exam time constraints. Otherwise, my average timed scores do not look as pretty. I do not believe 7Sage is the issue as I find the methods of this curriculum far clearer than anything else I've done in the past. I did some research and found that LSAC has accommodated those in the past with diagnosed depression/generalized anxiety, although not everyone's requests are approved. I have not taken medication for this in about three years because I felt it was doing more harm than good. That being said, I do not think LSAC would simply take my word for my issues and at the same time I also would not want to have schools look down upon my grade because they knew I was accommodated. I am currently aiming for the June 2017 LSAT, but if my PT's do not improve by then, I do not want to wait much longer. Perhaps September.. but nothing later than that as I truly want to begin law school by 2018. I know what school I want to go to and have everything planned out. I graduated cum laude and was in the honors academy all four years at my school and even graduated a semester early. It makes no sense to me how all that was accomplished yet I am having so much trouble with this one exam, which drives my motivation even further down.

Long story short, if anyone is out there with advice on something like this, I would really appreciate some personal insight as no one seems to understand.

Thank you

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