To those taking the test on Saturday and also in December, how long, if at all, of a break from studying are you taking?

Hi everyone. I'm sure something like this gets posted from time to time, but I want to get the current group's opinion.

I've been out of academia for 13 years, running my own business. My Academic life is long behind me, and the three people I could think of that might write me letters would not remember me in a clear, detailed way.

I have the potential to ask a high-profile politician (who was once mayor of the city that one of the schools I'm applying to is in, and is now in upper level government) who was a regular customer at my restaurant, but he neither knows me academically, or more than a 15 minute chat once a week. I should also point out that he could be viewed as controversial. I don't know if he would say yes or not, but my suspicion is that he would.

I also have a professor in the law department at UofT who was a joint law and philosophy prof, and he taught me in two courses. When he came into my restaurant, he greeted me by name, and introduced me to his guests as one of his former students, but I suspect he saw my name when googling the restaurant.

Two grad students that I did well in both went on to teach, one an associate professor at a community college in Texas, and one at the University of California, San Diego. Again, it's been so long.

Another regular customer is a law professor at Western.

I don't know what would be stronger: old academic references that might be vague and weak (but might not) or non-academic references from strong people that do know me well, but not in 'that' way.

I should mention that I need 3 letters for one of my school choices....

Any advice?

I am really nervous now , I studied around 2 months, with 5 PT, only get 141, not sure I can overcome it in December, not sure I will try in this Saturday, I want get 160 finally

If you purchase a course and want to extend it does it cost the same as the purchasing the original course for the first time or is it a discounted price?

If you needed a little motivation for test or or just to stay on track with your studies I wanted to share! Oh... I guess to see all of the LSAT annotations on the video you have to watch at YouTube... but you get the idea..

I live in Charlotte and my LSAT is this Saturday in uptown Charlotte. There have been violent protests, people have been shot, and protestors are all concentrated uptown. Our governor declared a state of emergency as well and businesses uptown have been looted and vandalized, people were throwing chairs and bricks through windows and doors last night. With everything going on, would the LSAC cancel the LSAT in Charlotte? This is of course if things don't get better I mean.

Excuse me while I vent and ask for encouragement.

During my diagnostic, I did fairly well on LR and RC and totally failed LG (70-80% correct on LR and RC and 27% on LG...) 4 months later... I'm really not fairing that much better with LG. I've completed the CC months ago, have been employing the method that many of us use, trying to go through every LG and keeping track of my time on a spreadsheet. I felt like I was getting a lot better and recently during a full PT I completed 3 games with almost all questions correct and I got through about half of the last game. However, on my most recent PT, I just completely failed LG, doing hardly any better than my diagnostic (although I greatly improved on my LR and RC scores).

Anyway, I don't really know what I'm asking for. I know what to do. I'm going to revisit the CC and keep trying to get through all of the LG before test day (Dec). I guess I'm just hoping others have had a similar experience and could offer encouragement that they eventually had a moment when it "clicked". I just don't understand why I'm not getting any better. I understand the foundations. I follow JY when watching the videos. It's just that when I'm confronted with some variation that I haven't seen before, I totally freak and want to give up.

Hi

So this may be a weird question, but do you cook? or buy?

I think I read somewhere, food is also important, but go shopping, cooking, and washing dishes kind of take time...which is good for studying? Saving time or nutrition?

Thanks

Hey y'all! I wish nothing but the best to those taking the LSAT in September.

I just have a quick question for you guys. So I studied for the LSAT sporadically throughout the second half of my college career.

I quit studying for the test at the end of 2013 as I had to enlist in the military. I haven't studied for it since then. I drilled dozens of RC from time to time but I haven't been able to study consistently. Now that I have time and have become an Ultimate+ member recently, I'm hoping to take the test next year. So I just took the first LR from June 2011 administration UNTIMED and I got a 23/25 and I did not guess any of the questions. I reasoned myself and eliminated every wrong answer choice with conviction. Granted I took it untimed(And I'm going to do this for a while because accuracy and certainty>>>>>>>>>timing right now) but I personally think this is encouraging because the last time I finished PT-ing 3 years ago I was scoring in the range of 158-161 on PT 50s all the way to 69/70. LR June 2011 is still relatively a modern test and so I'm wondering if I'm in good shape to just continue drilling LR sections from modern tests instead of having to go through Manhattan LSAT or perusing LSAT Trainer for LR. Do you think this was just a fluke? I am curious of your thoughts on this! I don't have issues with any particular question types. If the stimulus or the question itself is difficult, I get it wrong. Simple as that. Most of the questions I miss/struggle with have difficulty levels of 4 and 5 on this website. I look forward to reading your comments! But 23/25 untimed LR for a guy who was in the high 150s 3 years ago is actually giving me consolation and strength that with a lot more practice I will be able to write the test next summer/fall.

Your fellow LSATer,

DK

Hey guys! I will be taking the test on Saturday. I know the 35 min sections along with the break, but how long can I expect to be at the testing facility? I am taking it at a smaller location. So hopefully that will make it a little shorter! Right?

I have been doing the CC and have stumbled a bit on the strengthen portion of things. Once I hit the 3 star questions, I was getting about 60 percent correct, which is not at all where I want to be. I realize that much of my problem stems from the inability to find that assumption to bridge the gap between premise and conclusion. Is there anything you guys do that helps in establishing this bridge? I know that you will never necessarily find the bridge perfectly, but I would at least like to get better at it to have a greater chance.

Thank you.

Hi,

So I have decided to withdraw from the Septermber test and take it in December. I am averaging at around 165 need to push it to a 170 plus. Would upgrading to Ultimate+ be useful? Is it worth the extra $200? I know what the added features are, wanted to know from people's experience if it is worth it.

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hello,

so the study schedule shows that for the 1st couple of weeks its all information based. and the last few weeks are mainly for prep drilling and full tests. Considering I am limited on time, is it good enough to follow the syllabus without prepping/solving sections on the side?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-1-question-20/

In theory, I understand why A, B, D, and E are incorrect answers.

However, C is a challenge for me to accept. Just because there are other products that constitute the full income of a sheep farmer both locally and internationally, it's not like we know how much of their prior business depended on sales in those areas.

For example,

Income:

2% domestically and internationally - muttton

2% domestically and internationally - sheepskins

2% domestically and internationally - "other products"

4% domestic - wool sales

90% internationally - wool sales

I'm no expert in sales, but hypothetically wouldn't an increase in the biggest portion of your income cover and possibly still leave you with profit in the event that the lowest portions of your income decreased? I would love for someone to point out what I'm not seeing.

Thank you for all help!

Hi all! Was just wondering what your advice is regarding filling in the answers on test day.. should I bubble in as I go or wait until the end and risk missing the last question or so? Thanks!

Does anyone here have any experience writing the LSAT in China? I'll be moving there soon for school and I plan on writing at the Beijing testing centre in December.

I have heard that LSAC makes the games section of the Chinese LSAT harder, whereas, LR and RC are often slightly easier questions. Are these largely internet rumours, or is there any truth to them?

Any other advice is also welcome :)

Thanks!

I'm unfortunately taking the LSAT coming up this Saturday, but I feel that I'm not entirely ready or maybe just discouraged. My score has fluctuated from a 155-162 with getting a nearly perfect score on the logic games. The fluctuation is mainly due to my inconsistent LR score. Even if I receive the lowest of that range, I'm nervous it won't be enough to get into the school I'm looking at, which is FIU. My gpa from college was a 3.49 with majors in Neurobiology and Neuropsychology. I've been out of school for two years, but unfortunately I didn't gain any law experience. However, I was a bartender and bar manager for 5 years at the same job that my GM wrote a very strong LOR. I also have another strong LOR from when I was a TA in undergrad. I'm in need of words of encouragement that there is some hope to get into FIU. I don't want to feel hopeless before going into the test this Saturday.

That's my only question to be honest... I've scored 164 on a few occasions before but these new tests dropped me closer to a 160 so I'm most likely postponing to December. Just wondering if I go over past tests, drill LG and BR, it should be a realistic goal to get to 165 average by December, right? Thanks for the feedback. I know i've posted a couple times now recently but I just want to make sure I'm setting realistic goals.

Is there a study group for dec lsat? Should we start one?!

I took Dec 2015 and cancelled it. I wonder if I don't take LSAT this December and the limit would expire, right?

I'm preparing for the Feb LSAT if my PT falls into 170s. I am more likely to apply next circle year.

Hey everyone,

I just started the Core Curriculum and its been good to me! However, I was hoping for some clarification. When doing LR or RC are we actually supposed to take note of the grammar and phrasing stuff mentally (i.e. in my head say okay this is the subject and this is the verb or okay this is referring back to this concept)?

Or is this just drill stuff and that is unnecessary?

Thanks!

Currently in need of some last minute advice right now. I took the June 2016 lsat and scored 163. I was averaging around a 166 during my practice tests before this so I immediately signed up to take this Sept exam.

However the studying for my second exam has been much harder than the first time around and I just can't seem to score better than 163-164, often times scoring below it.

I know the raw score between these scores is only a few points, and honestly I feel with the right logic games/ RC passages I can hit my goal of a 165. So should I still sit for the test on Saturday and hope for the best, or simply cancel now. If I dont feel confident I can always cancel my scores after, but I fear I may think I did well and actually got a lower score than before.

Would me canceling and applying within the next few weeks to my dream law school with my163 (Fordham their range is 161-165) be preferable, or should I at least try for a higher score? I would love to be a little higher in their range, but I fear getting a lower/ the same score would hurt my application.

Hi,

I read slow and I don't think I can finish all of the passages within the time.

If I try to read all of them I rush through reading passages and not fully understand what it's talking about and miss questions.

So I'm thinking whether I should only do 3 passages and try to answer all questions correctly...

In this case, is there any way I know which ones to read? How to decide which one to read? For the one I do not read, I will jsut randomly put answers I guess...

Which is actually more efficient to get more points?

Thank you

Hi, I'm hoping I can get some responses for the following concerns:

Core Curriculum

I've been steadily going through the CC, and it has been a slow process (I'm trying to do as many of the problem sets I can). However, I often feel bad about myself due to the fact that I get questions wrong once past "medium" level sets. For example, on medium difficulty I may get one wrong (for SA, for example). But, when I start getting to the harder difficulty sets, I'm bound to get 1-2 wrong per set. (1) Is this normal? I mean, (2) upon going through the lesson on how to tackle the specific argument type, should we be able to get almost every one of the questions from the problem sets correct? (3) How is/was your experience with this (did you hardly get any questions wrong)?

Applications

The deadline is November 1st, and I want to get started on my applications, but I'm really worried about the personal statement portion. I have very little work experience during UG, and no volunteering (I fucked up, I know). My GPA is very strong if that counts, but I'm not so sure how I can remedy this crappy situation. What would you suggest I focus on instead in my PS (any ideas)? My reference letters are both from profs and should be good, so I'm not too worried about that, thankfully.

Also, the maximum for personal statements and whatnot tends to range from 2000-5000 characters (from what I've seen), but is it advisable to actually write that much? I would assume being sweet and short would be better, but again, I have no knowledge on this.

If anyone can help and respond to some of my questions with beneficial information, I'd really appreciate it!