So I took my LSAT in September and scored a 158. I registered for the September LSAT and I'm feeling very scared if I should honestly take it. I have been blind reviewing all my precious exams and my BR score varies from 162-165. I honestly just want above a 160 on my actual LSAT. My diagnostic was a 142 and a 16 point increase isn't bad at all. I just want to be able to know if I reschedule my exam till December will I still have a chance of applying to law schools for the Fall 2017 semester.

I need help with MBT. For some reason I'm really struggling with these. On each PT I get over 80% of all the LR question types correct and between 50-60% on MBT every time. What am I missing with these?

I know a while back we had a "Hamilton Thread" so with the release of the 8th Harry Potter story, I figured I would see if there were other Potterhead/folks 7Sagers out there. So just like the Hamilton thread, this is just for fun!

Whos excited? I usually read a new HP book (cover to cover) the night it comes out, but not sure if I will do that tonight. I'm actually getting the book delivered to my house between midnight and 2am (Thanks Amazon Prime Now). Im am currently waiting for 9:45 so I can place the order.

I plan to see play(s) (hopefully) in April in London as a part of my celebratory I am finally done with the LSAT Europe trip.

So a place for us the Potter fans.

PS fun fact, I was a volunteer moderator (Host Wtch Fawkes) on Harry Potter.com from 2001-2003 helping to moderate the boards. I was over Gryffindor and the Sorting Hat threads. Hey... can I put that on my resume @david.busis haha It was post college :)

Hello, everyone! My name is Sarah, and I am new to the community. I want to see if anyone would help me with a schedule (I apologize if this is against the rules, and if so please delete, but I truly am clueless.)

I have been taking practice quizzes for months now, but I am looking to commit to a schedule. I take the LSAT in December. The only thing is I have an extremely busy schedule, and unfortunately there is nothing I can really cut down on. I am 23, and I am a senior at a university, graduating in December. I have to take five classes to graduate. I work full-time as a legal assistant, and I can't cut down from 40 hours because I have to support my family. Lastly, and most importantly, I have a 1-year-old daughter. I see people studying 6+ hours a day, and that certainly is not feasible for me. Two hours a day seem more feasible.

I of course would love to score in the 170s, but I have my goals currently set on 160. I spend a lot of time in the car commuting, so I've been listening to audiobooks trying to utilize that time. I have also purchased numerous books. Overall, I am overwhelmed but completely dedicated to do well while balancing my life. I have a dream to attend law school, and I refuse to let anything get in the way of that all while making my baby girl proud. If you may, please send any and all tips my way. I truly appreciate it.

For those who once were scoring well below the 169+ mark, what were some of the larger breakthroughs in your prep that allowed you to finally start scoring in the 169+ range?

How was your approach to questions different for when you were scoring

well below 169+ to then scoring above 169+?

Thanks in advance for those that share their thoughts.

I decided to take this course for the summer. I began with a diagnostic of 147, and I studied for 6 hours a day 6 days a week. Today, I scored a 168! I want to thank the whole community here for making studying such a fun experience, and ESPECIALLY JY for being an incredible teacher. I am not exceptionally smart, nor am I exceptionally gifted, but I work hard. I really believe that if I can do it, anybody with ambition can too! Thank you, thank you, thank you 7sage for being so incredible!

I missed that webinar, unfortunately, but I really want to see the recording.

Long story short, I started studying May 16th for the September LSAT. I went through the core curriculum (probably a little to fast) and have taken 10 PT's. I've now realized I am not where I want to be and September is just not going to happen for me. I know I need to go back through the CC (especially the lawgic stuff). I've posted here before and you all told me not to waste a take and especially not to waste a 4.0 GPA. My diagnostic was a 151 with -18 on LG. My average on these 10 tests was a 163 with BR in the 170's so I'm hopeful going back through the curriculum and refocusing myself without the stress of taking the test in September can help me increase my score 7-10 points. Now my question is this: I took tests 37-48 so how much damage did I do to myself? I still have 30 clean PT's that won't be touched until I feel I am ready again. I feel so relieved that I made this decision, thank you all for being a positive support group and giving great advice.

Hey guys, little background information, I studied for LSAT for six months during which I finished the syllabus, did couple of PT and did the Bundle that increased my score from below 148 (not timed) to 151(timed). But had to go back to uni for three months to get my GPA up. Now I am free and have until December to take the LSAT and need a 155-157 to get in. I will be studying for LSAT full time from now until December, I do not know where should I start? Should I finish the trainer, do a quick review of syllabus or start doing PTs and BR? I appreciate it if you could tell me what do you think.

Update: Thanks for your amazing responses, everyone. I’ve been pouring through them, trying to figure out how I would choose from such worthy and gripping accounts, when I finally realized I don’t have to choose. I’m going to change the format instead.

Here’s how it works now: I’ll go through these statements in order, spending five minutes or less with each person. Even in such a small window, I’m optimistic that I’ll be able to dispense some sound advice.

When it’s your turn, I’ll ask you to unmute your mic. Everyone else should stay muted.

I’ll end the webinar after an hour. If someone doesn’t show up, I’ll skip her, so it’s hard to say how far down the list I’ll get.

Talk to you tomorrow.

7Sagers,

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So I'm in a bit of a situation, I have taken the LSAT in June and I was approved for accommodations for that exam. I registered to take the LSAT again in September and I was approved again for accommodations the same accommodations that were given in June. But I had a recent check up with my neurologist and my condition has gotten progressively worse than before and he wrote me a letter for my University about my disability telling them I need many more accommodations to guarantee my safety as well as fairness when I go back to school. He also wrote me a letter for the LSAC to add more accommodations including supervised bathroom break. I have a history of seizures and when I have a seizure I fall down and usually hit my head ( I had a seizure during my June LSAT when I used the bathroom but I sucked it up and went on taking the exam). I was wondering how can I make the changes necessary to guarantee a fair testing environment for myself given my unfortunate condition? Thank you!

I have the LSAT starter, which has assigned for me PTs to take that are difficult to find (or find at reasonable prices. I have followed links provided, but it seems prices have become extraordinarily inflated, especially for those PTs in the 40s---I have managed to get a Manhattan book that has organized the 40s exams by q-type). I am also a re-taker, but the first time(s) I did not exhaust my PT's...I have the 70s, some 60s, some 50s, and some 30s available (about 28 exams total) fresh PTs left. Could/should I substitute those, instead of the suggested? I realize I miss out on video explanations though.

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Maybe I should just spill my case/experience thus far, and perhaps this community can cringe and provide advice/best procedures.

Ok, I took the LSAT twice. First time: canceled after taking the exam. Second time: entered the exam having slept 0 hours. Yes, I had insomnia and incredible anxiety because, in the depths of my being, I knew I was unprepared. But! I didn't cancel because I didn't want to "cancel twice." I exited with a 159 (oof, it hurts). This is after months of "studying." I have read through the LSAT Trainer 3x, Manhattan LG, LR books 3x, Powerscore LG, LR books 2x. I took PT's here and there, without real BR (so I can't reliably provide where I was scoring--I sadly didn't have much of a system except, try to do one at least twice a week or more, until the exam). I've technically been "studying" since the beginning of 2015. After the June exam, this past month, I finally made (what I believe, the good) decision to join 7SAGE. But not before making another mistake: I'm registered for the September exam.

So, quite a clusterF, as some would say. My greatest weakness is LR. With LG, I'm spotty, but I feel it's graspable with more practice, repetition, etc. I'm usually confident in RC, but it's not down to a hard science. I have my days. Is any of this useful? Gives me so much anxiety writing my failures down (and reading how hard I have failed).

Eek. Help!

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My fellow 7Sagers!

I just took my first PT after curriculum and experienced a +15pt increase! My diagnostic was 143. My goal is 165.

Any advice on how I can move from PT to PT and see even greater improvement? I'm trying to maximize the next two months (September 24 is game day). Obviously don't mind surpassing my goal score! :) #WhateverItTakes

Today I completed over 8 LR problem sets and 8 logic games. Each problem set takes me ~30-60 minutes with blind review and all :P Quantity wise, I feel like I'm not getting a lot done, but quality wise, I believe that I'm refining my critical thinking skills through this thorough process. So, how much LSAT material do you get through on an average day? :)

Unfortunately, I have ALREADY registered for my Sept exam but I won't be able to get the score I want by Sept. Things didn't work out according to plan and I really don't know what to do.

My originally plan was to take about 20-30 PTs before my first actual exam, but as of now, I'm only able to drill by section to increase my speed. I miss about 5-6 questions in LR and have 6 minutes left before the last logic game. I'm not able to read all 4 RC passages and even the ones I do get to read, I get 1-3 wrongs per passage. RC is my worst nightmare and I don't know whether keep drilling it will increase my speed. But when I redo all of the above sections untimed during my BR, I get 85%-100% right. They are not really hard to solve and understand when I don't do them under timed conditions (except for the hardest RC passages) but I get stressed out, nervous, and rush through questions during timed conditions that I don't get to understand some sentences and overlook some key words. For instance, there is always at least one weirdly worded rule in logic games that makes me freeze and hurt my confidence to solve questions accurately. That disappointment and fear have psychological impact on my performance and makes me keep doubt whether I indeed translated the rest of the rules accurately. Overall, it frustrates me that there are many questions that are solvable but I just can't do them properly and accurately because I THINK I don't have enough time and I ACTUALLY don't have enough time. So I came to the conclusion that it's more practical of me to raise my LR and LG speed & score to compensate for my weak RC skills given the amount of time I got.

With these timing issues to overcome, I need to begin my PTing phase next week. I don't think doing about 15 PTs will be enough of practice before the actual test. Ideally, I want to take about 35-40 PTs, but realistically, it's unfeasible by Sept. I'm pretty sure I won't reach in the low 160s by Sept (especially due to this huge timing issue with RC) but I need at least high160s to apply to my dream schools. So I'm thinking of taking the Sept test to just get the experience of taking the exam with many people under stressful conditions and cancelling the score right after the test to not leave any record of unwanted score. I will keep on studying after the first exam, and hopefully by Dec, I will get enough practice with all of my 3 sections (especially RC) to reach my target score and take the Dec exam with no plan of cancelling the score. And by Jan/early Feb, I will be ready to send my applications to my dream schools. Even if I really screw up my Dec exam, I will be able to take one last exam in Feb. I also don't intend to apply for 2018 admission and take any more exams after Feb. I must apply for the fall 2017 admission.

So I'm not sure whether postponing the test date (by paying $90) is a good idea because that would mean losing money and the chance to experience what it's really like taking the exam at the test center. Similarly, if I get a refund, I only get $50 back and I lose the chance to practice under actual test conditions. In my country, I'm not able to even enter the classrooms where the test will be taken because I'm not one of the school's students, doors are closed, classes are being held, and etc. I won't have the opportunity to practice at the test center like some people can abroad. I actually went to the test center in June to check out and get some info on the test center and one of the people who are in charge of administering the exam explicitly told me that I can't enter any of the rooms to practice. She asked me why I'm being so sensitive about the exam. Um...ok. I may be a sensitive person but I mean isn't this supposed to be a serious exam? Haha.

Anyway, the only concern I have about cancelling the score is what if it in anyway hurts my application? If you were in my shoes, what would you do?

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Has this ever happened? Also, how frequent are combination games ?

An argument states that: Maria won this year's sailboat race by beating Sue, who has in each of the four last years. We can conclude from this that Maria trained hard.

Premise: Maria won this year by beating Sue who won the last 4 years

Conclusion: Maria trained hard.

I was between these two answers and chose the first one incorrectly:

1. If Maria trained hard, she would win the sailboat race

2. Maria could beat a four time winner only if she trained hard

The explanation says that the first one (the one I picked) is a mistaken reversal, but how am I supposed to know how to conditionally diagram this??

Why couldn't it be diagrammed as if maria trained hard she won, instead of if maria won she trained hard?

Hi guys so I have noticed while going through the SA and PSA questions that the answer choice must have the conclusion in the necessary condition. This is very important for me as I often miss answers because of this. Can anyone expand on the theory and understanding behind this and why it occurs. That would help me out a lot. Thanks in advance :)

So I just have a quick question about percentiles. On the june LSAT I scored a 158 and on the LSAC website, it's says that's the 74th percentile. In comparing the 74th percentile with other conversion tables that is a 160 to a 161. I know the conversion chart varies from year to year, so I was wondering how do law schools look at your score. Do they see you as a 158 or do they see you as the 74th percentile or maybe they take both of these factors into consideration? May someone please clarify this for me?

as the title mentioned i was curious to know when the When do the June 2016 LSAT questions get released as a preptest to practice with?

I know this question is going to be contingent on every person's learning ability, obligations outside the LSAT, and several other factors.

I just wanted to get an idea of how long people generally spend going through the CC of the 7Sage program?

Ideally, if the LSAT is your only main responsibility, and you would like to aim for December administration (Will absolutely reschedule if I feel I am not ready), what is a good amount of time to aim for? The automated study schedule is awesome, but if I schedule it to finish in December then it gives me way less than I can handle. So what is a realistic and doable date to set the CC to complete. I am probably going to upgrade when I can afford to get test explanations, so I am just talking about the CC lessons....

Again, I get millage may vary for folks, but I would feel much more comfortable having a little more guidance on this... I can always adjust it should I fall behind or need some extra time with a question type.

I usually try to put in 4-5 hours/day M-F and 6-8 hours on Saturday. Sundays off completely.

Thanks in advanced!

A question for those who do well on RC. Do the top scorers avoid subvocalization? I've been tinkering with methods that work best for me on the RC section, and I'm curious if top scorers say the words in their head when reading through RC passages.

I just realized that I don't know J.Y.'s/7Sage's philosophy on this...

I have all the Cambridge Packets pdf. from tests 1-38 for LR, RC, and LG and am wondering how to best utilize them.

Should I drill from the Cambridge packets while going through the CC or should I do them during my PT/BR phase?

If I should be doing this as I go through the CC, how many of each is recommended? Some packets have 200+ questions and others about 50, so wondering how to best allocate my time and questions.

Thanks!