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So, last time I was here I got some really great advice from a number of people, and I made a few life decisions. To get to a 170 (I'm at a 152 diagnostic), I'm going to take a gap year, as I graduate in may, and all this year I'm going to prep with 7sage ultimate. I will take the test next June. Does this sound like a solid plan?

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So, I have the LSAT beginners package. I have been studying since for 2 1/2 months now. I am at the invalid arguments section. I was initially planning on taking practice test on my own once I finished all the sections on here (to be extremely familiar with everything). However, I have been told by friends that they took 2-3 practice test a week. Is that the smart thing to do? I am taking my LSAT in September. Should I start putting more focus on the actual prep tests vs the lesson plans? Any advice is greatly appreciated!!

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Wednesday, Jul 20, 2016

Timing Issues

Hey all -

Just some background info - I started my studying with 7 Sage on May 16th and I plan on writing September 24 meaning I am about halfway through my studying. I scored a diagnostic score of 151 due to an abysmal LG section (-18). I have now completed the curriculum and have taken 7 PT's. My most recent score is a 164 with a BR score of 172. My breakdowns are generally -3 RC, -11 or so in LR and -6 on LG. My main issue as of right now is timing. I find I am a tad slow on every section besides reading. By a tad slow I mean 3-4 minutes. After every test I thoroughly review every question I missed, typing out explanations for every wrong answer etc. Right now I am not skipping questions so I am going to start skipping Parallel reasoning questions and see if that speeds up my timing but besides that do you all have any tips to increase my speed on LR and LG. I think I have potential for a 170+ but this time thing is a little concerning to me. Any tips from you all are much appreciated!

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Wednesday, Jul 20, 2016

MBT v MSS

Hello guys,

My first study buddy meeting has been really good, but I feel like I've stumbled a bit on explaining the difference between MBT and MSS questions!

I've touched on how MBT relies on formal logic and validity, if the stimulus is true, the answer must be true. Whereas MSS is more general, you are trying to add a conclusion to the information above by drawing one out of the stimulus.

Any input here would be greatly appreciated!

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Tuesday, Jul 19, 2016

Discouraged ;/

Hello,

I am hoping someone could give me some guidance ..

I have been studying the fundamentals of the LSAT sans tutor/books/etc for the past year while working full time and have had moments of "damn! why can't I just afford a tutor!?" and stopped and reassessed my studying & approach. It was at that time (about a month ago) that I came across 7Sage. The one and only PT i have taken is the 2007 one and scored a 144 (very upsetting)

I don't want to give up and think thats the best I can do since becoming an attorney has been a dream of mine since I was younger.

I am working through the curriculum and really taking the time to understand how to approach each section. Does anyone have any advice on anything else I should be doing to supplement the curriculum? I work 8-5 M-F, I study from about 6-9pm M-Thurs. & of course Saturday & Sunday.

I wanted to take the LSAT so I could apply for the fall 2017 school year, but I also don't want to give myself that deadline and add more anxiety to my progress, so I am open to waiting..

Any advice/guidance is appreciated!

Thanks guys :)

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Like I imagine most of us, I never had to study in high school/undergrad. The LSAT is the first time I've had to seriously study. I find that I'm able to do about two, maybe three, hours a day before I just can't focus anymore. What tips can you offer to help me study more?

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Hey!I wonder if anyone is close to Seattle. Now I need a study buddy to supervise my study progess. I am following the LSAT 4-month schedule and read LSAT trainer. I increase my accuracy but still slow. Any suggestion?

Anyone, if you r close to Seattle or Bellevue, PM me. We can grab a coffee and share some experience.Thx

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Hi team,

I have been studying with 7sage for a month now. Learning a lot of stuff, but just want to do a double check, what do you keep in your head when reading the passage?

For me, I feel like I have constantly do the following set of things:

-Untangle the passage into context, premise, conclusion (minor/major) by asking the WHY question.

-Writing the sentence into logic terms by constantly looking out for any logical indicators (all, never, only if...) and pause for 2 seconds and write it out (sometimes if the sentence is symbol I still try to do it because in the end the passage is an argument)

And yes, I do this for all the questions. Surly, I speculate when doing actual PT this may be done unconsciously, but for starters, what do you keep in your mind when reading for RC?

@twssmith, @"Accounts Playable" and anybody else care to share?

Much thanks,

Panda

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Hey so I already posted a similar discussion to this but it had a lot of other information and I really just need to decide how to study for the September LSAT since I already took it twice and have been studying on and off for a year.

My 7sage paid membership expired and I have almost mastered LG and LR. Should I just take PTs and timed sections leading up to the September LSAT? Or should I get the LSAT trainer and/or get another 7sage account? Main weakness is RC and I keep hearing that the best way to improve is to just keep doing it. I need to start studying again soon because I haven't looked at anything since the June. Thanks!

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Hi there,

I have been thinking of sitting for the Law School Admission Test for quite some time. However, finding the appropriate schedule has always been an issue for me.

Due to some unforeseen circumstances that have come about recently, I have been made aware that I will not be attending University this upcoming year. This will leave me with an abundance of free-time (July-December).

Considering I now have this free (full-time) schedule to dedicate towards this standardized test, would this period of time be adequate for someone attempting a score of 165?

Thank-You all for your time.

P.S - I understand that responses here will be purely hypothetical, and any reasonable estimate/answer will largely depend on other encompassing factors (i.e. Diagnostic scores/Time dedication).

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Hey,

I know we are all studying probably every minute but if any of you are looking for some new law show to watch, I really recommend checking "The Good Wife" out.

I was just watching one of the episodes, and she was in court room where an "adhesive expert" was called. No joke. His job is about analyzing the things stuck on the glue'y side of the sticky note. And he was basically saying how a note's sticky side that had fallen on the ground had lead on it, and one of the items, the painting also had lead on it, so the note must have come from that painting.

The main lead was on the opposing side. And I was thinking, how would I weaken this thing on LSAT..... What about if any other item in the house also had lead on it? And sure enough, she introduces an additional premise saying the expert concluded too hastily, a lamp on the desk where the unused sticky notes like also had lead on it as well. And its possible the sticky note might have touched the lamp before being placed on another item which might not be the painting. So, its not necessary that the note was on that particular painting!

I don't know why but the fact that I could predict the form the "right answer" might take, and that I was right, made me sooo happy. :D I know I still have a lot to learn, but I have finally started to feel like I am getting to a place where I am beginning to understand.... and its such a good feeling.

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Hey y'all! Just had a quick question about using The LSAT Trainer. Do any of you use the study schedules provided by the Trainer or do you just move at your own pace and do the appropriate drills?

I just began the Trainer again and am at lesson 5. I love what I'm reading but just wasn't sure how to go about drilling and whether or not to follow one its proposed study schedules.

Any insight would be helpful! Thanks :)

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Hey Guys Just a Question,

I'm not doing very well on the RC. I'm rushing very quickly to get the 4 sections done, and I cannot concentrate very well because of the rush.

Do you think it would be a good idea to aim to only do 3/4 sections? I think I could more correct on the 3 sections if I have more time, and hopefully guessing on the last section can still get me 1 or 2 correct if I guess all 1 letter.

Any thoughts?

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I posted this on another forum a few minutes ago, so I apologize if some people see this again:

I've been scoring 167-169 lately on tests in the 50s, with a few in the 40s, and one in the 60s (65). I just did PT 70 and got a 165, though, but I've been struggling to balance work and LSAT prep so that is probably a factor. However, I have heard anecdotally that the newer tests are/seem harder. I guess my question is: should I be concerned? I know I've only taken one in the 70s, so I'm definitely going to take more really soon. Does anyone have tips for adjusting to newer tests and for getting over hurdles?

I'm aiming for 170+ (no specific score in mind but I simply want to maximize my scoring) and will be writing in September. Is this realistic? Even more, if I want to get a low to mid-170 by the September exam, is this achievable?

I'll be done work mid-August so I'll be able to study full-time after. I want to know if I'm on the right track for where I want to be.

Edited: For some context, my BR is 175 or 176 most of the time.

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Hi team,

I check up on method. brain messed up by the logical diagrams in answer choices. Question is here: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-36-section-3-question-12/

So I have a problem with this question between answer choice A & B.

Answer A gives the contrapostive of the missing link. But B is the "exact" phrasing, with this "might" phrase attach in it.

So can I make this general rule that: When question of such where logic diagram is heavily involved, when confused, go for the strong wording and avoid the tempting answer choice "some, might, may..." although the phrasing is exactly the same.

Thanks,

Panda

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    What is everyone doing to conquer NA? I have a really difficult time on these questions...I'm thinking maybe I need to go back to the curriculum, but even then I'm not sure where to start. Review Assumptions? SA? BOTH? maybe weaken?

    Or if not the curriculum, what else is there to do to help me improve?

    HELP!

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    Just curious because the LGB and LRB have both served as my personal Savior. My only reservation about ordering the RCB is that I feel like the skill needed to improve on RC questions can be gained by doing Main Point questions

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    So I'm working through the problem sets on the harder weakening questions. Through BR I can get 80-100% correct, while doing timed I am only able to get maybe 40-60%. Should this be a concern at this point in time? I have also been doing prep for about eight hours today, so that is one thing I can attribute to the scores. There was a point earlier today I was 25/25 on timed.

    Note: My test date is December 3rd, 2016

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