My logical reasoning was terrible, and I ran out of time for games. Has this happened to anyone else?

I am currently studying for the June 2016 LSAT and have been studying for 3 months. I desperately want a 170 on the LSAT but the last practice test I took I got a 162 missing roughly 4-6 questions per section. Is it possible to increase my score by 8 points in the next 24 days if I aim for 6-8 hours a day 4-5 days a week? And at least 1 hour every day? My practice tests have steadily increased beginning at a 149 then going from that to: 150, 152, 154, 154, 156, 162.

I just found a copy of PT74 I bought from CambridgeLSAT awhile ago. It looks like it's got 5 sections, with the 3rd section labeled as (PT-A) on the Answer Key page. There is no label to indicate whether this section came from another PT.

Are there more than 4 LSAT sections? Many different test centers get different combinations? Or am I missing something here?

Thanks for the thoughts

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That question came up in a recent discussion thread and we were curious. So, we ran the numbers using data from PT 58 through current. Results:

Logical Reasoning, all questions (1 omitted)

A 337 18.95%

B 375 21.09%

C 365 20.53%

D 367 20.64%

E 334 18.79%

Total 1778

Logic Games, all questions (1 omitted)

A 179 20.55%

B 180 20.67%

C 173 19.86%

D 172 19.75%

E 167 19.17%

Total 871

Reading Comprehension, all questions

A 181 18.64%

B 223 22.97%

C 185 19.05%

D 201 20.70%

E 181 18.64%

Total 971

Logical Reasoning, last five questions

A 68 16.19%

B 88 20.95%

C 79 18.81%

D 89 21.19%

E 96 22.86%

Total 420

Logic Games, last five questions

A 47 20.61%

B 47 20.61%

C 46 20.18%

D 46 20.18%

E 42 18.42%

Total 228

Reading Comprehension, last five questions

A 31 14.35%

B 59 27.32%

C 35 16.20%

D 47 21.76%

E 44 20.37%

Total 216

Now that you have this information, what do you do with it? Not much. It's mostly to satisfy your curiosity. Some of you might be tempted to use this information to guess on future LSATs. Hopefully, you won't be in a situation where you have to blindly guess across all five answers. If you end up in that situation however, then sure, this is probably as good a guide as any to which answer to guess. As I've said numerous times before though, the LSAT writers are very crafty.

Greetings everyone I'm Monty. I attend Bethune Cookman University as Criminal Justice Major. Next semester will be my last semester as a junior I'm now trying to figure out how to overcome passing the LSAT with a good score .I recently start studying for the LSAT an have a few questions. How did most of you manage to study with distractions around you? Moreover, how long did you study or have you studied where you were confident to take the test ? I'm looking forward to hearing great responses.

Hey everyone!

Here's a question that's been on my mind for quite some time. I've long been contemplating the various school's I'm going to apply to (knowing that my final LSAT score is going to be the deciding factor on this). I know everyone says to apply to a reach school in the state you want to practice, but I personally would most likely practice wherever I go to law school. I don't feel tied down anywhere, and am very much open to moving and exploring life in another area.

Now with that being said, I have a friend that is starting law school at Tulane this year. She's lived in Louisiana her whole life, and does not plan on ever moving to a different state (but never say never, right!!). Now, for people that would like to eventually move later in life (perhaps after the 5 year reciprocity period is over), what is your opinion on being a lawyer in LA? I love New Orleans (actually have family/friends there) and am interested in applying to Tulane. Since LA is a civil law state and the rest of the US are common law states, would staying and practicing law in LA actually be detrimental to a law career if you decide to move to another state later on in life?

Just something I've been very curious about.

Hello,

I just begun my 7sage course. It is awesome so far however can someone tell me where they have purchased PT's 36-52? I looked a 10 pack test from Cambridge LSAT which included these tests but for $400!!

Have you guys just purchased them individually? Even for some individually I have seen them for $24 each. Please help me!

Hey folks,

Lately I've been meeting many other 7Sagers who are interested in pursuing a public interest legal career. This is my own area of interest, and in the course of getting prepared for school this fall I've learned a lot about the realities of this type of work and how to position yourself to do it. If I get enough interest on this thread, I'll host a webinar in a couple of weeks for any and all public interest folks.

As we do here at 7Sage, I want to both encourage everyone, and also help people consider if this is a feasible and realistic career path. With few exceptions, public interest career paths are tough, unconventional, and require flexibility and tenacity to break into.

Here are some topics we would discuss:

- What types of legal careers fall within the designation "public interest"?

- How to mitigate debt

- The importance of where you go to school

- What to focus on during school

- How to stay in public interest work for the long term

Interested?

Hey 7Sagers!

Question for you all - what's your trick to stay motivated throughout the study process? I've had to have some surgery done about two/three weeks ago, and have been MIA on here as well as in my studying, as recovery was tough and painful.

I'm trying to get back into my study grind, but found myself lacking energy and motivation (plus being spoiled from being on pain killers and watching TV and sleeping all day... woo me).

I'm also WAY behind my study schedule now. I was planning on joining the September BR group within the next week, but now I am only about halfway through the curriculum since I've lost so much time.

Where would you guys pick up at? I'm thinking about re-reading all of my notes that I've made throughout the course of the curriculum and just trying to pick up where I left off.

I'd love to join the BR groups and really don't want to miss out, but feel as if it's probably more important just to get through the core curriculum right now?

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Hello all,

I was just wondering if I were to upgrade from Starter to Ultimate, I will get the same material as the Ultimate right? Is there a difference between upgrading from Starter to Ultimate as opposed to getting Ultimate outright. I'm on a pretty tight budget so any savings will help! Thanks!

Pseudo-Sufficient Assumptions with Sage Jimmy Dahroug

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There were several questions in this section that seemed to provide answers that I could not seem to justify even after BRing, not sure if this type of post is an issue because of its detail on specific questions, if so I apologize in advance and please remove.

9.

The correct answer seems to require that if the people who occupied the site were using a "wider variety of wild plants than did any other people at the time", then they would have "used some plants in ways that no other people did at that time."

In my opinion, using a "wider variety" in no way implies or supports the contention that this society was utilizing previously unused/discovered plants; it would mean that this society was eating a using a wider range of plants than any other culture, but each plant they used was also being used by some other culture.

Society "X" could eat wild mushrooms, apples, pears, spinach, bananas, and pineapples; while each of these plants was also eaten by at least some other society in existence.

Thoughts?

19.

The correct answer introduces this concept of "well-being" that appears no where in the argument of the professor, how would this weaken the argument?

21.

When I did this question it seemed as if it presented 2 necessary conditions for the book to be published this year -

1. important;

2. well written.

I selected the correct answer (A) in timed, but switched to (D) in BR, because (A) seems to lack the condition of being well written.

What would be the correct logical representation for this question?

"We make it look easy on the court... because we practice until we cannot get it wrong anymore."

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GET EM

I have looked everywhere and it seems that they just do not sell these two tests anymore does anyone know if I can actually find them somewhere?

Hi, I seem to be having problems correctly identifying the conclusion in complicated LR questions. Does anyone have tips for this? Thanks!

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Like many here, I just thought I'd share my progress and experience with 7sage and studying for the LSAT. I'm 35 years old (married, 2 kids). Yes, kids, I'm an old B. I have a Master's in a different subject and had a career as a librarian for 8 years. For many, many reasons, I left that career and after years of not knowing which path to take, I stumbled upon 'The New Jim Crow' by Michelle Alexander and my life was changed. I knew without a doubt that I needed to pursue a career as a public defender. The thought of law school was always in the back of my mind even before reading Alexander's book, but a few years back, I bought an LSAT prep test book, looked at the games, and gave up. I honestly thought I was too stupid to take the LSAT, much less get into law school. I went to a shit state college and I never particularly applied myself or excelled at standardized tests. I literally did not even study for the SAT! While my GPA is decent and I can read and write well, I had no background in logic, and definitely suck ass at all tests.

I just took my first real prep test after the curriculum and got a 155 and 161 on BR. I am ECSTATIC! My dream school is UNM for reasons related to costs and its reputation for training public defenders (call me Saul), so I'm just aiming for a 160. I never thought in a million years I could do this test. Seriously, never. At my old age, I didn't even know if I could properly study.

I guess I'm just sharing to tell the 7Sagers, particularly J.Y., that OG, THANK YOU for changing my life and for making me see that I am capable of this. For all you grinding like me, if I can do this with a job, two kids (some nights I studied in my 2 year old's room when he was sick), and a brain jacked up from too many years of partying, You CAN TOO!!!! I am on cloud 9 and feel even more motivated to do this. Thanks everyone!!!!!!

Would love to hear everyone (especially top scorers) weigh in on this--

Do you ever, in the course of doing an LR/LG section [under timed conditions] find yourselves selecting an answer choice and moving on WITHOUT continuing reading the other remaining answer choices? I know the proper approach in selecting a correct answer is to both identify the correct answer, AND to decisively eliminate every single incorrect answer, but sometimes you come across the correct answer choice that you've already anticipated while assessing the stimulus, and you know it's 100% correct before reading all the other answer choices. The reason I ask about this is because after drilling so many PT's, I still struggle with finishing all the test sections on time, and that amounts to lost points. So, I wonder if it would be the right strategy to pick the right answer and move on without reading all the remaining choices, (in those few cases where I do anticipate and identify the right answer with 100% certainty) in the interest of time?

I took PT 50 last Sunday and got raw score of 62 but my actual score was 151. I did not feel it was particularly easier than other PTs. I used to get raw score of 55-56 and actual of 149-150, I am a bit confused. I am not sure if I improved or not? Is PT 50 really easy?

It seems to me that it is impossible to form a complete logical argument in which the key terms do not appear at least twice, and it also seems that every logical argument but one necessarily uses at least two terms. (The only logical argument that only uses one term is the "double negative," which states: "A," therefore "~(~A)," and I have never seen this in an LSAT stimulus.)

As far as I can tell, a complete LSAT question (by which I mean the stimulus plus the correct answer) must necessarily include at least two terms, and each of these terms must appear at least twice.

I may be failing to consider certain unusual question types that don't actually consist of logical arguments as such. If so, that might be the exception that proves the rule.

If anybody can provide an example of an argument (other than the "double negative" above) that has less than two terms, or refers to a key term only once, please let me know.

I just started my LSAT course and noticed that the PSETs suggest using paper versions of the exercise questions. I've been using the videos, but it definitely does not mimic the right testing conditions. Also, I have tried searching the PSET questions in the Answer Bank, but I can't seem to find them. Does someone know where I can find paper versions of the questions?

I am taking the June 2016 test and do not feel ready. Does it look bad to take it twice or should I postpone the test until September?