My 3 recent PTs I have experienced an oddity.....my timing is deplorable.....

For prior PTs I would reach question 21 or 22 in each LR section when time is called.....but for my 3 most recent PTs I only finish up to number 17.

By the 30 minute mark I am only on question 15.... why is this happening? I feel so much slower than before! I have to read, then re-read, then re-read again, the stimulus before going to the answer choices...

How much room is there in the test booklet? Does the test look just like the PTs? No scratch paper just seems like another way to make this exam more painful than it already is.

I emailed him a couple times at studentservices@7sage.com. He never answers.

Most of the time, my deductions and diagramming are the same with 7sage's, but it still took me average 12 mins to finish each section. What are other ways to improve speed?? Have you successfully overcome similar problem and do you mind sharing your experience?

Ie. you wrote test 61 4 months ago and forgot it or didn't score that well and didn't review it and got a 158 but re-write it now and get a 166?

Guys I'm very confused. In today's lsac email it sounds like 2 plus a picture. But on the ticket it says one. I only have one so the sooner I find out the better (if not tomorrow I'll have to get a state id or soemthign cuz it's too late for passport)

I'm feeling pretty depressed and just beaten down right now because I'm not doing any better at the LSAT since I began for the most part. My lowest timed score in June was 144. To my utter disbelief, I took a PT today and got a 147. I've figured out that I'm only missing around 10 questions because of my stupidity; the rest I'm just unable to get to because I run out of time. I've gotten near 170 before multiple times, but those tests were all untimed. I'm scheduled to take the October 3rd test and I just don't know what to do at this point. I'm unable to get to at least 5 questions from each section.

Does anyone have any advice? I've been going through tests, doing BR, recording my score, and watching the explanation videos. I've also been looking through the analytics, seeing which question types I'm missing, and then reviewing the core curriculum for the applicable section. I'm starting to think that I'm just not made for law school. It seems like the test is just so much easier for other people; I actually had a lawyer laugh at me a few weeks ago when I told him I was actually studying for the LSAT (I'm quoting, "No one studies for the LSAT. If you have to study, you shouldn't try to go to law school."). I've been studying for 4 months and wish I had longer (my pre-law advisor actually told me I should just grab a logic games book and flip through it, that no studying was really required).

Since d-day is so soon, any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks guys!

Moving from bracket to bracket (140 to 150 to 160 to 170...)?

Consensus on the board is curriculum+BR+management of your body/mind+don't burnout.

Is there an overall mindset you need to have to make the gains you want?

Obviously not being down and negative about your scores, keeping a resilient face would seem to be something to keep in mind. But has anyone come across something that has helped their scores outside of actually practicing the material?

I feel BURNT OUT. I literally feel like crying every single time I look at a question and I can't focus to save my life.

BUT, I also suffer from the syndrome of "not being able to stop because stopping means losing precious time before October 3".

So. Someone just tell me to stop.

Kthanks.

Sincerely,

emotionalandtiredanddrainedandseekingvalidationthatitsoktofeelthisway

I’m trying to calm my nerves before my first LSAT which is coming up in less than 10 days. I’m scoring in the low 160s but I really would like to improve and break the 170 mark. Is that possible (or rather what is the possibility) given I only have a week left or should I not take the LSAT now and take it when I am more fully prepared in 4 months (Feb 2016, can't do Dec)?

I've only done 20 PTs and have 10 of the most recent prep tests (after 50) left and most of old ones untouched. I studied slowly but steadily over the summer to get used to the LSAT and started increasing the frequency of PTs taken so that starting September I could do at least 3-4 per week full timed PTs, experimental and writing.

Should I use all the new tests now or save them and take the later LSAT? I also didn't find out about the BR method until now and I feel like I've wasted precious PTs. I also just bought copies of the Powerscore books which I plan to go through pretty much fully in the next 3-6 days. My plan is to do 1-2 solid days of games until I can perfect them (currently get 1-5 wrong), categorize my argument trouble areas and fix them, and figure out something for reading comprehension using the books and practice tests.

I also still have 1 year before I apply to law schools, my GPA is almost a 3.8 and likely will be 3.8 by the time I apply.

Any advice, recommendations, etc. would be very much appreciated!

hey can i get a quick list of some in/out games. having issues need some practice thanks. :)

Hey everyone,

I am hoping someone can help me because I feel as if I am in a slump right now and am having a hard time getting out. When I started this 7Sage program, I was very motivated and charged at it like a bull and was killing it…However, these past two weeks I have been slacking HARD and just can't get my head into the game. I have all the time in the world to study and do pt's however I just can't get myself there. Even right at this moment, I am doing problem sets, and blind reviewing but I am not operating at my normal potential and it's making me frustrated because I am missing things that I wouldn't normally miss.

Did I burn myself out? Does anyone else feel totally unmotivated? How do you get yourself out?

I am planning on taking the Dec 5th LSAT but I'm not sure if thats a good idea considering how I'm feeling lately.

For LG vid pages, is there a way I can have my default player be the 7Sage one? Youtube's max playback speed isn't fast enough and doesn't have useful question markers.

Hey everyone,

If you're anything like I was, when you're studying and you get frustrated, you might ask yourself... What's the point of this stupid test anyways?

Well.. being in my second week of 1L right now, I feel compelled to come back to these forums and tell you. Please keep in mind as you read this, these are just my opinions, I am sure there are others.

1. Reading Comprehension:

There are two key reasons why RC is so important. First, I am only in my second week and I have probably read about 500+ pages of mandatory readings, and much more supplementary readings to try and get a better understanding of some concepts. So, the point is if you want any chance of keeping up with the work load, you must be able to read AND retain at least somewhat quickly. Second, most of my readings have been cases that involve reading what some judge (or more) had to say about a case. This includes:

What they see the issue as (legal issue)

What they think should be the resolution

Why and how they came to this resolution

You are essentially reading a judges thoughts splattered on a page. It is up to you to sift through it to find the important stuff. Sometimes judges write clear and its not so difficult to follow. However, they are experts in a complex industry, which means their vocabulary can be intense at times (especially when you don't have a good grasp on this new language or what the lingo is)

2. Logical Reasoning

I want to move to LR now because it overlaps with what I was going to say with the rest of RC. Like I was saying you are reading these dense complex passages. Why do you need LR?... because the entire point of you reading these cases and judgments is to figure out what the main point is (ratio decidendi). But, it doesn't stop there... you also need the premises the judge made to get to that conclusion! And the rest is just filler or side notes or some random babbling that might interesting to read but doesn't really matter to what you need for class.

So now you've read (quickly)... got the main point.. got the judges reasoning... you're all set right? --- NO!

Now you are going to go to class and have a professor ask you a ton of questions. Sometimes they might ask you to just simply state something that has happened or was said. But, other times they might ask your opinion. Well how can you give that if you aren't ARMED with LSAT skills? By identifying what flaws may have been made or why an argument was strong or weak, you are now capable of telling the prof what your opinion is.

See.. it all kind of starts to make sense? Sort of?...

3. Logic Games.

Unfortunately I have nothing for these. I guess they are just some section they included to add an element of "fun" to the test. I don't know.

Key point is, YES there is absolutely some overarching goal of the LSAT! I don't know if I believe that a higher score necessarily means better student (obviously higher score might correlate to more work which might mean stronger student). But, I can definitely say that there is a reason the LSAT is important beyond being a measure of determining who should be accepted at a school. It prepares you for the workload (at least in some sense) that you will be faced with if you are accepted! You will need to put in the hours, just like the LSAT... from Day 1! You will need to read long boring passages and see what a judge is thinking, why they are thinking, and what the heck the point is of even reading what they think!

Look at the LSAT as preliminary training for what you about to embark on! Because as a "fresh" 1L student, I can say it definitely doesn't get easier! It's all part of the plan! So train hard, worry less, and good luck all!

I understand that everybody moves at their own pace and that everyone's goals are different but does anyone know how long the course is supposed to take you to get through? I've started 2 weeks ago and I'm almost 55% through the material as it is but I'm very concerned with not retaining the material by rushing through to try to get to take tests. I've studied a little bit with other methods before I found 7sage but I'm just curious how long it took other people to go through the material before they start really taking prep tests. I took 2 tests before I found 7sage, the highest was 162, and I plan on taking at least 30 before December because I understand that taking tests and BR are really where you see your big gains. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated and good luck to everyone studying!

I'm attending a law school forum this Saturday and I'm not sure what kind of questions I should be specifically asking? I would like to know about the costs and financial aid but when it comes down to specific programs they may offer I'm not even sure which programs I should be looking for. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

Hello Everyone. I plan on taking the October LSAT but I do not feel confident at all. I am also taking the December LSAT as a backup option. I read so many articles about both of these exams and when people are applying. For those who plan on going to Law School Fall 2016, which LSAT are you taking? Do you feel as though there is a harder deadline to meet for the December exam?

Jon did an excellent job. But he is too smart that after he read the stimulus, he can always find a right way to stab the question right into the heart. I could not follow him. I feel more comfortable with JY's explaination. He lower this level to a mundane moron and explain from a moron's perspective. LOL.

Hi All,

As October 3rd approaches, I've been pondering my fate quite a bit (this will be my second crack at the LSAT since taking it for the first time in 2013).

One of my "values" or "goals" in life is to be relatively location independent. One of the reasons is because my partner is a scientist and has slimmer job prospects throughout the world compared to me [in my current profession in allied health].

So, seemingly just in time to make me even more confused, I came across an article that advertised Legal Nomads (.com), which is basically the story of a young lady lawyering in NYC and then quitting the gig to travel the world.

My question is - have you ever heard of ANYONE having relative flexibility to continue working in the legal field while marrying their love of travel (okay, and/or frequent relocation)?

My current goal is to pursue a law degree with a healthcare certificate, as that's my background, and I feel strongly as both a clinician and director in my field that I have the chops to make some changes in the increasingly complicated field.

That being said, International Law sounds super sexy and may be more aligned with my dream of traveling/relocating, but I have no poli sci background. Maybe there's a way to fuse Healthcare Law with a sprinkle of International Law to broaden my employability across regions and nations?

(I'll leave the dream of being an entrepreneur for a later date)

Just discovered 7sage after spending appx 2k on a prep course and Powerscore books. I have been prepping on and off since January-May and almost every day from June-now and have only managed to increase about 10pts (which fluctuates). I am taking the October test & I have zero motivation left. I actually want to get the test out of the way because I feel like I have reached my limit and cannot improve. This is sad to say since going into prepping, I was so motivated to get to my ideal score.

That being said, has anyone gone through this situation? I don't really know anyone taking the LSAT, that is why I am so happy to have found 7sage, even though I did so too late.

Hi everyone,

As gameday nears I'm trying to hone in on what gives me problems and according to my analytics Grouping Games are my worst LGs. Does anyone happen to have a resource that organizes games by type? Or perhaps knows some god awful grouping games off the top of their heads?

*cue everyone typing DINOSAURS*

Thanks!

I've been working on it for months. It's already been edited. It's an "overcoming adversity statement" which I really did not want to do in the beginning but whatevs. Two people have shredded it due to wanting to skirt around a disability I have.... One of them has "edited" out most of the statements that state the disability... So it is no longer an over coming anything statement....I rescue odd critters who are sick and no one wants then get them healthy and give them a forever home.... I am super passionate about it and it is a big part of my "personality"..... Ideas? encouragement? screaming rants at me for letting anyone look at the paper after it had been professionally edited? Did I mention the application is due Oct 1st and I'm taking the LSAT on the 3rd.... BTW Only 1 of the two people is even slightly qualified to give any advice.

~Frustrated in Texas

Here is a list of every LSAT question classified by type. It is sortable by LR type, RC passage content categories, and LG type. It's kind of hard to find on Cambridge, so I thought I would post it here--especially because everyone has been asking for lists like these recently. (The terminology may be a little different from what you're used to, but you should be able to make it work.)

Good luck!

https://www.cambridgelsat.com/resources/data/preptest-classifications/

I've posted a couple desperate discussions, but this one is more lighthearted. I'm mostly just curious (haven't even started applying yet).

My research indicates a brawl between these two schools that goes beyond the athletic/regional rivalry. Some articles say BU is better (as per the rankings), but ATL seems to rank BC higher. Plenty of discussion boards to this point go back and forth with reasons for one or the other.

Wondering if any sagers have an opinion. #34 BC Law or #26 BU Law?? Let it ride.

Currently PT-ing in the 161-164 range. Have been here for a while.

My goal is to take the test in Dec. I plan to crack 170.

I'm not asking if it's possible. I figure everyone is different. Rather, my question is if anyone has witnessed a 6-8 point bump within two months of rigorous studying.

Also. Any and all words of wisdom are welcome.