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Just curious if anyone has noticed if there is a correlation with the law schools that are soliciting you post LSAT to apply with fee waivers with acceptances?
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Proctors: Pretty good overall. Stuck to time, no errors with the alarm (had my own watch so it wasn't really an issue). Friendly and gave clear instructions. Had spare pencils as well.
Facilities: OK. Pretty old building and the layout is somewhat confusing. Could only find one bathroom (can fit maybe 7 people at the same time).
What kind of room: auditorium with those swivel desks.
How many in the room: 25ish or so.
Desks: swivel type, not that much space. leave the booklet on your lap.
Left-handed accommodation: didn't notice any.
Noise levels: none, dead quiet.
Parking: Unknown. Looks like there were some street level parking. I took public transit.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: 15 minutes. Proctor wanted to wait a bit for people to show up, we had about 1/3 absentee.
Irregularities or mishaps: none
Other comments: This place ran slightly cold. This was summer so AC was probably on full-blast. Pack a light sweater if testing in June.
Would you take the test here again? Yes because its easy to get to.
Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 2015
Proctors: Pretty good overall. Stuck to time, no errors with the alarm (had my own watch so it wasn't really an issue). Friendly and gave clear instructions. Had spare pencils as well.
Facilities: Excellent. This looks like a relatively new building and was very clean. Plenty of bathrooms/water fountains.
What kind of room: Classroom lecture style, seats 100+.
How many in the room: 40ish or so.
Desks: 5 or 6 feet long desks, plenty of space. Chairs are steel case office type chairs (these are around $750 retail) with a lot of options for adjustment.
Left-handed accommodation: Not applicable since these are desks.
Noise levels: none. Room appears to have some sort of noise dampening material, no windows in the room so I assume it wasn't facing street or anything.
Parking: Unknown. Looks like there were some street level parking. I took public transit.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: 10 mins or so from advertised start time to actual start time (getting people seated, in the right place etc).
Irregularities or mishaps: none
Other comments: The room I took the test in was very bright; however it was slightly warm and I rather have it a bit colder since you can layer up.
Would you take the test here again? No -- because it is too far from where I live, nothing wrong with the place though.
Date[s] of Exam[s]: Oct 2015
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From the lessons we learn that "the only" indicator falls into the category of Group 1 to support a sufficient idea, whereas "only" clauses support necessary conditions. This is really confusing to me.. could someone elaborate on the difference by drawing on examples please? (The Jedi->Force example didn't get me any clearer..)
Here is my take:
Only human beings can have souls = Have souls -> Human beings
The only human beings can have souls = Human beings -> Have Souls
I know the lawgical translations are correct mechanistically, but those two sentences sounds more or less identical to me. Thanks for your help!
What condition indicator is ONLY IF?!?!?
Check the first figure and what Bernie actually said. Free tuition --> most educated nation
NPR: most educated nation -> ~free tuition
it's half mistaken reversal
Finally finished the curriculum today, (except when upgrading to + this week, may have a little more coming) I know it took a while, I was just really trying to make sure to build a strong foundation before jumping into drilling and PTs, well, good thing is finally finished first part of the race.
But here is my concern; I have attended a few webinars (which was great btw) and I realize that all those experts seem to be on the same page with one thing when it comes to drilling, that is drill the "whole sections" and "timed", instead of doing the same question types. Only doing the same question types during curriculum period when you are learning the question types, but when you move onto drilling period, drilling the entire section with different question types and timed. This is the message I think I have gotten from everyone If i'm not mistaken.
I wasn't fortune enough to have access to the "bundle" 7 sage used to offer before the PDF regulation, therefore I went and purchased the Cambridge bundle instead. I now have all PTs from 40 to 77, 5 sections, and 1 to 38 grouped by types and difficulties, but this seems have become an issue in complying with the valuable drilling advise given from those heartwarming, helpful LSAT experts from our forum. Because I won't have the "entire section" to drill from 1 to 38 since they have already broken them down into types and difficulties, and I know I shouldn't waste PT 40 and above as drilling material either, therefore, what should I do? I double checked the Cambridge website just to see if they offer alternative options, but they seem have broken them down into types and difficulties for "all" bundles involving 1 to 38. There wasn't an option for older PTs having the "complete, entire sections" without being grouped and rearranged..
It would be greatly appreciated if anyone could be so kind pointing me to the right direction.
Thank you so much in advance.
I've been stuck in the mid-150s for the last 6 months and I just don't know what to do. I've taken a Blueprint Prep Course, gone through the PowerScore LG and LR Bibles, and read through the LSAT Trainer. I don't want to try another LSAT prep course because I feel like they'll just do the same thing BluePrint did and give me some short-cut tricks that don't help at all.
I have significant problems with RC and LR; missing -9 to -12 on RC and -7 on both LR sections. I've gotten better on LG thanks to 7sage's full-proof method, and have gotten it down to -6. Unfortunately, LG is what's bringing up my score. I Blind Review every RC and LR section, but it's beginning to seem like I'm wasting my time because I'm not learning anything. I can eliminate 4 incorrect answer choices under untimed review, but I just can't seem to finish any sections during timed prep. This test is beginning to stress me out.
Thus far, I've taken the LSAT once (scored 155) after pushing back the test like 3 times. I postponed the February test after, again, scoring 155 on PT59. I hear stories and read posts about people going from my score range to high 160s or even mid-170s after a few weeks, but nothing is working for me. Makes me feel like I'm defective or something. What am I doing wrong?
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Proctors: 3 Japanese proctors. I believe they all spoke English quite well. They were friendly and professional.
Facilities: A large classroom on the third floor of their downtown Tokyo campus building. Well lit and quiet. Toilets literally a few feet down the hall from testing classroom. A nice break room/lounge/cafeteria sort of space for the break time. It had several long tables, a few vending machines and a couple couches.
What kind of room: A large classroom.
How many in the room: 20-30
Desks: Standard three person wide desk/tables, with 2 students at each desk separated on either end of the tables. More than ample space.
Left-handed accommodation: Large desks so would definitely not be a problem. Not sure if you would get a specific side of the desk or anything if you asked though.
Noise levels: Very quiet. The building seemed closed except for test takers and perhaps a few students who knew about the back entrance and had business on the weekends. Only saw one other person during the test day there.
Parking: None. Being Tokyo most people came by train or were dropped off by someone or a taxi in front of the school.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: Seemed quite speedy compared to my U.S. test experience. Think we actually started moving around 8:35-8:40 and then the test soon after the pre-test materials were finished.
Irregularities or mishaps: None whatsoever.
Other comments: Like most things in Japan; it was professional, well-run and went off without a hitch.
Would you take the test here again? Yes and I am next weekend. I can update this if anything changes.
Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec. 2015 / Feb. 28th, 2016 (future)
Hi All,
I'm happy to report that I received an email on Friday that I was accepted to one of the schools to which I applied. I'm waiting to hear on another, and I'm considering applying to another one or two.
I decided to go the mental check-out route after submitting my apps, meaning that I didn't allow myself to think much about it or obsess over receiving an answer. The good news is that it only took about 10 business days for my first answer.
That being said, this is where I feel like sh*t gets real. I have to look at the annual sticker price of ~$44k in the face and decide how I'm going to figure this out. I'm at a point where I feel like it's not worth doing this, unless I cover at least half or two-thirds of tuition with scholarships and fellowships. I've already paid (cash or fed loans) nearly $100k for my bachelor's and master's (yay for free community college associate's).
I'm in the process of submitting for a health fellowship (which was the meat of my personal statement), as well as other internal/external scholarships.
What are your thoughts on deciding whether or not to go at all, once accepted? The point of going to law school for me is to
a) prepare for a career that I feel better suits me intellectually and
b) alter my career trajectory in healthcare (I've been in allied health for almost a decade now, and would prefer to be on the other side, fixing a rather broken system which affects my patients, and me, as a clinician).
Any thoughts appreciated. I didn't get into HYS, and nor do I think that it's necessary for my career goals at this point. The schools to which I'm applying rank better than whatever #85 is right now.
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Hello! I have a very basic question. This is a bit long, but I appreciate anyone who would provide some thoughts on this.
Q: If an argument commits the necessary, but not sufficient flaw, does it also commit the sufficient, but not necessary flaw?
This question came about after I read two examples in the Trainer:
Example 1: "Everyone who boards the plane has to show his or her ticket to the attendant. Since Tom has shown his ticket, he will be allowed to board the plane."
B -> S
S
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B
The trainer understood this to be a necessary, but not sufficient flaw (S is necessary, but not sufficient for B). But couldn't you also say that B is sufficient, but not necessary for S?
Example 2: "Every time you drink, you end up feeling sick the next day. You say you are sick today. You must have gone drinking yesterday."
D -> S
S
---
D
The training understood this to be a sufficient, but not necessary flaw (D is sufficient, but not necessary for S). But similarly, couldn't you say that S is necessary, but not sufficient for D?
When I first read this, I was very confused by the fact that two identical argument structures have two "different flaws," which is why I wonder if the two flaws are the same.
I then read this for a bit and now think that the two flaws are different. The two arguments seem to have different emphasis. What makes the first example a "necessary, but not sufficient" is the keywords "he will be allowed to board," which is different from "he must board." I think, if you were to make this change, the first example would be more intuitively a sufficient, but not necessary flaw.
"Everyone who boards the plane has to show his or her ticket to the attendant. Since Tom has shown his ticket, he must have boarded the plane."
What do you think? Since this is so foundational, I appreciate any comments about this. Thanks!
I've scored several times in the low 170s, with two 173s being my best scores. But I have dipped as low as a 164 during consistent studying (though distraction and stupid mistakes probably best explain such a score at this point).
This makes me wonder... what are ranges for those scoring in the low- to even the mid-170s?
Hi, I have finished my personal statement. It is meant to be of the "overcoming adversity" variety. Is anyone willing to chime in with some feedback? I was told it was too long, but I am struggling with what to cut out. Any critique would be greatly appreciated!!!
PM if willing and I will send it. Thank you
I need to submit to an explanation I got for a minor warning about guests when my buddy visited me freshman year of college AND I'd like to add an LSAT addendum I recently wrote (16 point difference). What do you guys think? It is considered bad form to submit an addendum after you have completed and sent in your application about 2 weeks earlier? This would be for just one application I sent in earlier than the rest...
I'm going to register for June and want to make sure I choose the best test center possible. If anyone knows of a quiet place with big desks and good proctors I'd really appreciate it.
Proctors: Didn't seem to know all that much except for the main proctor who was in-charge of the tests within the whole building (3 rooms I think) other than that there wasn't a problem with them. They were nice and didn't distract us.
Facilities: Much better than expected (cant judge a school's facility based off its rank) place was super clean, very roomy and had some cool tech (has nothing to do with test but each seat had a mic on the desk to ensure the whole class can hear)
What kind of room: Stadium seating lecture hall. Very large but the back had a bunch of seats with no desks
How many in the room: 75-100
Desks: Large desks broken up into three sections per row (like a movie theater) with people spaced every other chair. All the room you need to get set up and be comfortable. No issues at all
Left-handed accommodation: desks were large along with spaced seating should have caused no extra accommodations to be needed (I'm righty so...)
Noise levels: fine, normal coughing/sneezing
Parking: NYC so you have to deal with parking buildings. I took public transit.
Note: there is NOWHERE to safely leave a bag, so if you are going here, DO NOT bring anything you are not supposed to have. There were multiple people frantically looking for a place to leave their bags (eventually left them all with a doorman, I assume they didn't have a problem getting them back but no idea)
Time elapsed from arrival to test: fairly quick, 20-30 minutes from listed start time (maybe less)
Irregularities or mishaps: again, most of the proctors clearly weren't trained so we had a couple of minutes in between sections (IIRC the proctors walked around to make sure you weren't still writing/in a different section) Threw me off at first but had plenty of time to re-coop, I enjoyed the extra time to clear my head and prep for the following section.
Other comments: Nice place, would be top choice of mine if retaking and lived closer (getting there was not a problem from LI, LIRR to Penn and a quick subway ride brought me maybe 5 blocks from school) I just registered for the test pretty late. I would definitely recommend it to those nearby or even on LI (if Hofstra is unavailable-NOTE: Touro is open to replace Hofstra for June, so it may be better than travelling to NYC but not sure how the facilities/testing conditions are there)
Would you take the test here again? Yep, as said above, if Hofstra is not available I would make the trek
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Proctors: No issues, they knew what they were supposed to do and weren't unprofessional
Facilities: Law Building - Everything was clean, wasn't over crowded while waiting to go to the rooms and the bathrooms were clean.
What kind of room: Lecture Room
How many in the room: From last Feb so dont remember but probably around 60?
Desks: 3 sections of long desks (think movie theater) with people seated every other chair allowing for plenty of room for your test booklet, answer sheet and pencil army.
Left-handed accommodation: As stated above it was long desks with spaced seating so (while not left-handed personally) I'd imagine there were no issues
Noise levels: Standard test taking noise level... some coughing/sneezing but no unexpected disturbances really. I think there may have been a AC issue that made a little noise every once in awhile but not something that would be a consistent issue nor was it super noticeable
Parking: adequate, I found a spot pretty quickly and close to doors. I could see having a issue if you aren't too early but looked like there was plenty of parking a min or two walk away
Time elapsed from arrival to test: Got there a little early but compared to listed start time we started maybe 20-30 minutes later
Irregularities or mishaps: One kid had special accommodations (don't know specifics) but made sure no one had a problem with him being in room (no one did) and sat in the top row alone and didn't cause any issues. Other than that went fine.
Other comments: Was definitely a great place to test (assuming other rooms had similar experiences) I had no issues, everything went smoothly and we had nothing that may have affected anyone's testing. Had all the room I could want and more to get comfortable with my testing area. I would most definitely recommend Hofstra as a TC to those in the area.
Would you take the test here again? Yep, I tried but they don't administer June tests so couldn't take it there my second go :/
Feel free to message/post any questions regarding the facility and such
Proctors: 2 or 3 proctors. All were VERY strict with the time/putting pencils down; one proctor actually ran to a student to yank the pencil out of her hand. One person got kicked out for not following the instructions. All instructions (phones, food, IDs, etc.) were followed to a T.
Facilities: Ballantine Hall. Bathrooms were on the same floor. Elevators are a pain to use (if you go to IU, Ballantine is a notoriously weird internally designed building).
What kind of room: Small classroom.
How many in the room: The room could fit 30ish students.
Desks: Worst part of the testing room. Small college desks. Not enough room to fit both the test booklet and Scranton at the same time.
Left-handed accommodation: Yes.
Noise levels: No issue with noise.
Parking: Campus parking is a pain. Ballantine has a parking lot, but I walked to the testing room from my apartment. One of the campus bus routes takes you to Ballantine, so that is a possibility if you live off campus/don't want to drive.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: I showed up at 7:30. We started at about 8:30ish/8:45ish. The proctors were very strict about the directions, so we started promptly.
Irregularities or mishaps: Besides the person getting kicked out (which I didn't even realize until after the exam), nothing.
Other comments: I took the exam in September 2014 (PT 73), so some of my information might be out of date (such as if the same proctors are there). However, Ballantine Hall hasn't changed in 1000 years, so I doubt it has changed since then.
Would you take the test here again? If I had a choice to take it elsewhere, I probably would not take it at IU. I really don't like the small desks, so if you can avoid that at your testing center, I'd do that. Nevertheless, if you are an IU student, the closest spot is probably Indianapolis, and although that drive is only about an hour long from Btown, the roads can get pretty bad if the weather is bad in December.
Hello Everyone,
Currently I am trying to get together a firm study plan. Originally, I was going to take the February LSAT but unfortunately things did not go as planned. Anyhow, I am going to take the June LSAT but I wanted to know how to effectively study from now until June. I finished the foundation coursework with 7Sage, furthermore I have taken 10 LSAT exams. A lot of the study guide plans I came across have suggested that I spend the next 3 months breaking up the games (Linear/grouping/in-out) with each month as well as breaking up LR question types into each month. Additionally, one should be completing a minimum of 20+ Reading comp passages a month. Do you think this will be an effective plan, or should I be covering each game/LR type every month? Instead of going the divide and tackle route. I really appreciate any advice you guys could give and thank you in advance for your help!
PS: I plan on joining the June BR group as well
-Kristen :)
Proctors: About 5 proctors, all very competent but not uptight and helped to create an overall relaxed atmosphere.
Facilities: Law School Building or Engineering Building. Vanderbilt is a beautiful university with very clean, modern facilities and plenty of room to hang out during the break with comfy chairs and couches.
What kind of room: Large lecture hall
How many in the room: ~50 -60
Desks: Long continuous lecture hall tables, ergonomic chairs with wheels, good lighting.
Left-handed accommodation: There was an empty seat between each test taker, plenty of room for lefties without bumping their neighbor.
Noise levels: Very low to silent, signs in the halls asking people to be quiet, testing in progress.
Parking: I walked to the test but there is parking available, I believe at a ramp several blocks away.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: ~ 1 hr
Irregularities or mishaps: None, proctors are very competent and clearly experienced.
Other comments: Great testing site. October was in the law school building, we were split into 2 smaller lecture halls by last name, February everyone was together in a bigger but almost identical lecture hall in the Engineering building.
Would you take the test here again? Yes
Hello,
I have the Ultimate Package, and I am thinking about upgrading to the Ultimate+. For the question bank does it include video explanations for all LR,LG and RC from PT 17 and up?
I'm just curious what explanations the question bank includes since this would be the main reason I might upgrade my course.
Thanks!