Need a bit of help on LG before February exam. Scored a 163 today and went -6 on LG on PT74. I want to get this down to at least -2/3. How feasible is this and should I use so Pacificos guide or do times LG sections? I think my issue is freezing/timing

Hey everyone,

I've noticed a strange pattern of the answers I tend to miss on LR and wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this and if you have found a solution to fixing the problem.

I have noticed that I am not necessarily missing a particular question type but am instead missing clusters of questions together. It usually happens around question 11 or 12 & I will miss 2-3 questions in a row, then it will happen again somewhere around 17-20 where I will miss 2-3 sometimes even 4.

I'm not sure if I'm stumbling because I run into a difficult question & then loose confidence on the next few questions, or if it could be mental fatigue or something else I just can't put my finger on.

The same thing sometimes happens with RC on just one passage where I miss a few in a row, but that I could understand better because it could just be a matter of not fully understanding a certain passage. The questions in LR are autonomous though which has me a little more confused, since I can go 10 questions in without any errors, and then miss 3, then another 5 without errors & then miss another 3 or so.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Sheri

My copy of the Superprep II booklet just arrived, and much to my dismay, LSAC does not indicate what month and year that the C test is.

Considering that A and B are Dec 2010 and June 2011 respectively, I could take a wild guess and assume it's Feb 2012? Perhaps it's a test they used for Sabbath observers.

Anyhow, here's some info about the test if any previous takers know.

Game 1 involves eight children divided by gender who get on a roller coaster.

Game 2 involves stacking letters.

Game 3 involves a costumer designer having to put together three tricolored costumes among six colors. (sounds tough)

Game 4 involves a radio station scheduling interviews with politicians.

RC delivers - passage 2 is about Woody Allen films - Deconstructing Harry, Stardust Memories, Manhattan, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Husbands and Wives, Celebrity, and Broadway Danny Rose! Passage 4 (comparative) features the great economist Thomas Sowell (eat your heart out, Paul Krugman).

Oh, and both Passage 1 and 4 are boring: the former focuses on sheep in New Zealand while the latter features really dense astronomy.

I've been working on this section for the last 6 months continuously and nothing seems to be working. Should I just skip a passage in Feburary? I'm going -12 on average every section.

This question just doesn't seem to click for me any which way I look at it... I don't see how answer choice (A) is the correct answer. If someone has any insight as to how to better approach this question, be my guest! Thanks!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-3-question-18/

I have seen a lot of posts regarding a decrease in PT scores and/or an increase in difficulty with the newer PTs (70-77). Is there anything in specific that makes these tests harder? I am just starting to PT(starting in the 30s and working my way up) and wondering if there is anything I can attempt to practice while taking these older PTs in preparation for the more moderns tests.

I'm a non-traditional student and worked FT since age 16 to support myself. Ended up getting a GED in my early 20s, going to community college, and transferring to a top 3 private university. I have been working with nonprofit legal services providers for the last 4+ years. Still, I had 5 jobs before graduating and all of them were in restaurants. I would like to include at least some of these in the resume, but not all.

I'm just having difficulties deciding how far back I need to go for pre-graduation jobs. Do I start with the job I had when I started community college? Or should I just include all 5 of them?

I would really appreciate some advice. Thank you!

After giving PT 70 and 71 i felt LR was considerably harder than before, is it only me or everyone felt this ? Is LR harder for PT 70+ compare to PT in 60's

Hey, everyone!

So I took the LSAT in December and scored a 151 in spite of consistently scoring 155-160 in my PTs. I'm taking the test again in February and need some advice from those who have used the LG/RC Bibles. I'm allotting 8hrs a day every day until the test to digest these two new books and was wondering if anyone has used this material and has any advice?

I'm worried that I won't have enough time (roughly three weeks) to get the most out of the new material. If anyone can shed some light on what they believe was most important/helpful in these books, I would really, really, really appreciate it!!!

I've found that I'm very stubborn when I take a PT and BR questions. But the problem is when I review the question and listen to the explanation, even if I understand my mistake, I can never seem to really change my thought pattern when I revisit the question weeks later. The explanation just doesn't seem to be sufficient enough to override my own false intuition. Even if I end up getting the question correct, I can't help but notice that it's more because I remembered the right answer than understood exactly why. I could recall the reason used to justify it as the right answer but I can't say with all honesty that it's entirely convincing or that I would be able to spot it in future questions. I think this is a product of having studied for so long for this test where I've internalized certain ways of thinking that I just can't seem to change. I wouldn't say my fundamentals are lacking because I've been through this course, and others before, many many times. Instead, I think my problem is that I'm unable to extract patterns because I get so bogged down on the individual question that I resort to the same thought pattern that leads to pick the same exact answer choice.

Any advice on how I can actually learn from my mistake? How are people able to effectively understand a problem, abstract it, and apply it to others to improve? I think this is what's always held me down and is the key to any sort of improvement on LR.

In taking the LSAT in October and then again in December, I improved my LSAT score by 11 points. Thank you to JY and all of the 7Sage staff for producing a great program!

Best of luck to everyone preparing for the next exam!

I am just starting the course and targeting the June or December LSAT.

I have a question that may seem trite, but goes to the heart of learning. Why in the world would we be asked to take a practice test (at the beginning of the course) on concepts many of us have never studied? Do you take a logic exam on the first day of class in philosophy? Do you take a geometry "practice test" on the first day of class? I get the measuring "baseline", but shouldn't your baseline be AFTER you have taken the course material ? Your improvement from there is what matters, not from what you walk in with.

I'm just curious as to the reasoning. It makes no sense to me but perhaps I am missing something.

Taking the test in a few weeks and I want to make sure I perform my best on test day. I do my best to mimic test-day conditions in terms of break/time but I usually take these tests in really quiet rooms. Yesterday I took a free proctored exam offered by Manhattan and it was also really quiet. Will it be like this on test-day or should i expect to be distracted? Also, does anyone have any other tips on how to make sure one performs his/her best on test day? TIA!

Terrible with mapping and circle games and would appreciate if anyone can recommend a book/site to help. 7sage doesn't really address these kinds of games. And also, does anyone have a list of all they types of miscellaneous games? Want to make sure I practice at least a few of each type. Thanks!

Hi everyone. Just attended an amazing webinar by David Busis about writing law school essays. However, the questions round had to be limited to 20 minutes. There was an interesting question that we missed just at the end of the session and it was something like - "how to explain 6+ years of experience before applying to law school". Any ideas, folks? Or if David is around maybe he can guide us. Should this be an addendum rather than a PS? I'm an applicant with about 5 years total experience so I'd really like to know :). Thanks!

Anyone working on their personal statements (whether just starting or polishing the final), I strongly suggest reaching out to David Busis (www.davidbusis.com). He's the guy who wrote 7Sage's personal statement add-on lessons (which you also should buy). I worked with him directly to help my essay along. We brainstormed about strong topics, organization, and articulation of key ideas. TREMENDOUSLY helpful. Reasonable hourly rate, and well worth it. He's not the kind of guy to milk the clock, and the thorough advisory letters and edits he writes for you offer you insights that will allow you to make fairly drastic changes to your paper. If you're committed to differentiating your personal statement, he is your guy. Any questions about my work with him, message me directly and I'll clear it up for you.

Good luck to all sagers.

I've heard so many different views on this. What are your thoughts on law school prep? Given how much time and effort we put into studying for the LSAT, it feels odd to just sit around and not try and prepare for law school itself, since it's paving the road for the rest of our careers...Also, what's the latest on the 7sage law school prep course??

I'm almost done with the curriculum (skipped many problems sets on purpose). I have pretty good accuracy and speed with LR. But I have trouble with LG. I can always make all the right inferences, but it takes me way too much time to complete the entire game. This is quite consistent with my first diagnostic test (75% right on LR and only 40% on LG). I want to improve my LG with the Fool Proof method before I start PTing. I bought almost all PTs. Many people on the 7Sage forum mentioned that PTs have changed quite a bit over the years. I'm wondering if I should start with PT1 or a more recent PT to specifically focus on improving my LG? Thank you guys very much!!

I have been looking everywhere and can't seem to find any place where I can buy the 180 watch. Their website doesn't mention when they will start selling again. Is there anyone who wants to sell theirs?

I currently have three (of what I would presume to be solid) academic references, all from professors. I have been out of school and working at my current job for just under two years. I plan on applying during the next cycle, so I will have hopefully been at my job for just over three years. With this gap between schooling and my personal statement centering around my job, should I shoot for a professional reference? If so, is four total references (usually the max allowed, it seems) obnoxious?

For some reason I am having a lot of trouble with these and it is weird because I spent a lot of time on identifying the parts of arguments correctly in the beginning stages of the course and things seemed to be going smoothly up until then.

I have a brief question regarding the question difficulty label (i.e. the Question Level from 1 -5) on 7sage. How are these determined? Are they relative difficulty compared to all LSAT questions, or relative to questions of the same set?

I searched the discussion archives and couldn't find anything. Some suggested that it's related to how people responded to the question on 7sage. But that doesn't seem to be right, for some questions (e.g. P38, Sect 1, #21, difficulty level 4), most people seemed to have gotten it right (based on the answer choice distribution).

I would love some insights about this. Thanks!

I'm just curious and trying to gauge how long other people take because sometimes I feel like I'm taking forever. I also clean copy BR

After I take the LSAT, I usually BR the RC and half of a LR Section. This takes about 2-3 hours so my total time for that day plus LSAT is 5-6 hours. At this point, my brain is drained and I don't think I'm doing myself any favors by continuing.

The next day, I BR the other half of the LR and the other LR. This can about 2-3 hours. Then. It takes me about 3-4 hours to throughly review the questions I missed. I type out my reasoning after watching JYs explanation.

Then I review the RC, which takes about an hour to 1.5 hours.

Then I do the games/watch explanations and re-do them. About 2-2.5 hours.

All in all, I usually can't even finish in 2 days. It takes me about 12+ hours to throughly finish. Am I hitting diminishing returns? Thanks.

I'm trying to apply to law school but I have a major problem. I've worked at an uneventful startup the last two years. It's been my passion but now I don't have anyone to ask for a letter of recommendation. I graduated in 2013 and I don't think that my professors/ mentors will remember me. Also, my resume has major gaps bc I've only been at this "company" and the shitty odd jobs in college. I'm the first person in my family to graduate from college. Any suggestions would be great.

I noticed that except for Harvard, most schools do not provide a column for listing awards received in college. Where can we list those? On resume?

Thank you so much.