Ok so am I the only pretty little law geek that finds these questions tough? Lol I'm not bad at LR overall but these questions trip me up quite often. Any advice? I know eventually if I keep doing them I will get better but I am interested to know if anyone uses a different strategy or notices a characteristic about these that distinguishes them from other flaw questions and makes them a little easier to solve. I simply identify the argument, find a flaw and attempt to find the answer that strengthens or weakens that bond between the support and conclusion (not always easy to discern even when I understand the argument).

I just finished going through the entirety of the core curriculum (ah if only that was all it takes). I have the basic course, and I'm looking for input on the whether upgrading is worth it given that all the tools, so to speak, are provided with the basic version. The price isn't an issue, nor is my cognizance of the potential ROI; just curious what you all think.

Ran into this commercial and found it LSAT related/amusing. Hope you guys like it.

While I am making progress in the LG section, I am seeing that there is a pattern I do not like. It is an extremely sporadic pattern. Either I understand the game and get all the questions right (sometimes miss only one) or completely misunderstand the game and get most questions wrong. There isn't a very strong correlation between game type for me. For example, I don't seem to bomb matching games more than sequencing etc. It's literally if I understand the task well, I answer correctly and if I don't I am guessing I misrepresent the diagram or the rules in such a way that it nearly throws me off the entire game. Is this a basic diagramming/notating problem that I just need to address? Maybe re-read the basics of LG, or use another resource to bridge that gap?

I am also thinking maybe it doesn't make sense to time myself. When I blind review LG, of course I do a lot better. But if I can't get them accurate under in times conditions then it doesn't make much sense to time myself yet right? Naturally, I tend to do worse even on games i do understand under the time pressure. =( usually its because of a missed inference or incorrect representation of a rule that I get correct when I am not being timed.

I've regressed back into my plateau range of high 150's low 160's. It's disappointing as I thought I had made progress and now I have around 15 of my 21 total preptests in this range. In other words I have been in a consistent plateau my whole testing period with a few beneficial and not so beneficial outliers. Nonetheless, I have thought of a possible solution. Would it work if I took and retook preptests 62-72 until I was able able to score 175+ consistently on all of them. That way I would be able to master some inferences in LR, fine tune my RC, and increase inference making ability and speed in LG. I would keep 73 and 74 fresh to check to see if I made any real progress afterwards. I know it is highly likely I would be remembering a lot of answers, but hopefully I would also be remembering why the respective answers are correct and why the incorrect answers are wrong. I may increase the range (from 62-72 to 57-72) to encompass a few more possibilities for questions but you get the major gist. I really want to break out of this plateau and hit a higher range so that I may have wiggle room on the next test day. My new goal for myself is 165-180. Is this idea stupid or just dumb enough to actual work???

I started the 7sage core curriculum in March, and finished it last week.

My diagnostic was 153. Today, I took my first PT (after my diagnostic test) - PT39.

I scored a disappointing 151, with 161 for BR. ( I left 13 questions blank due to the ticking clock...)

My strongest section was RC, then LG, with my weakest being .... LR...

I am planning on taking the Oct LSAT with a goal of 168+.

WHAT SHOULD I DO???!!!! Help me out sagers...

Hey guys - I've been studying for almost a year and have been consistently scoring in the low 170s-high 160s on PTs35-70 and once I took 71,72,73 my scores fell to low 160s and even hitting a 159 for one. Is it just me or do these most recent PT feel different to anyone else? Even when I BR I find the LR arguments to be much more tricky and the RC is more difficult for me to finish in 35 minutes. What the heck is going on and how do I get over this?

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Hey everyone! I have not yet bought a package from 7sage, but probably will go with the premium option. I'm a Canadian looking toward getting a score of around 160-163 to be competitive at Canadian law schools.

I'm entering 4th year university and was on the edge of whether I should apply for the 2016 cycle or wait till I graduate to study for the LSAT and apply for the 2017 cycle.

If I start prepping now I have around 3 months ( I know you can't reach your full potential in this short time). I would just like to hear some of your progress stories and whether 3 months of serious studying is enough to break the 160 barrier.

Thank you, and I look forward to communicating with you guys in the future.

Most people who take many exams of the lsat plateau at some point. How did you escape your plateau?

Since this is a diverse group of people with different expectations and ideals, I have a simple question. What do you consider a good score and why?

So I was just poking around on the site and to my surprise 7sage has a law school course! I had no idea. Has anyone taken this course and if so, has it really made a difference in your law school grades and/or experience?

Anyone else not able to access the locked problem sets despite having an Ultimate account? I'm not able to access them, and I have no idea why.

Thanks!

I had some proctor timing problems on the 6/18 exam. The proctor wasn't clear on start times for 2 sections and didn't call 5 minutes on a section.

Is this worth contacting with LSAC about? What's the best they can do to help me after the proctor mistimed?

Hi everyone! Does anyone have a good study guide or cheat sheet tip(s) I could use when making my own? Or possibly an example of their own that I could use when making mine?

Is it normal when your about a month into studying for the LSAT, and you feel like for a minute your getting good at some skills, then suddenly you realize you still suck, or you think you are good at something and you really are not? Do you begin to feel some sort of demoralization? I do want to make it clear, however that by no means does this stop me from studying, it just kind of puts me in this sort of funk.

How does everyone here feel about this concept, of studying for logic games for a week for example, and then moving onto RC, and then back to LG or LR.

I'm just following the 7Sage curriculum and they switch back and forth a lot which I actually enjoy.

When I'm so sick and tired of doing logic games I see RC and it seems kind of fun and new. Then when I'm tired of RC I look at LR and it looks appealing.

I'm curious if I'm the only (group one indicator looooool) one that thinks like this lol.

A quick read (and a great site for those interested in solo/boutique practice):

Everyone Is Losing Interest In Law School on Lawyerist.

It seems our timing couldn't've been better, folks; for those who are applying in next year's cycle, it may be even better.

I just took PT 50 and I felt like I did not even know how to complete the exam. I have familiarized myself with the test since December, but I felt like the questions were completely different than those in the 30s and 40s. I ended up circling 75% of the LR questions. Also, I could not complete 1-10 in ten minutes. Probably 4 out of the first 10 were extremely difficult. The LG was easy, but the LR was brutal. Has anyone else had this experience? Is this test an anomaly? Is this test the beginning of the drastic changes and turns that the LSAT takes?

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Hey 7Sagers,

Someone sent in a question I thought you could help with! Here it is:

I'm a 7Sager and have been loving it so far. I just have a law school related question and I didn't know where to post it on the website, hence this email. I'm an undergrad and I will be graduating in the summer (August) of 2016. My plan was to apply and start law school that fall of 2016. I will be taking the LSAT in October this year and will start applying to law schools soon after. I just started realizing that law schools may not accept my application since I will not have graduated with my Bachelor's when I turn in my application. I HAVE TO go to law school fall of 2016, otherwise I will have to wait until the following year which I cannot afford. Is it true that law schools may not accept me if I graduate next August? I am losing my mind! Please help!

I've seen lots of debate over whether or not some statements have the ability to strengthen or weaken arguments. The general consensus seems to be that they cannot strengthen or weaken, however, I came across prep test 29, section 1, question 16 on Proto-Indo-European languages where the correct answer to this weakening question was answer choice B, which was a some statement. I'm not sure if we can post questions in their entirety so I'll just say what the answer choice states and hope anyone with this full question and some good insight can reply "Some languages lack words for prominent elements of the environments of their speakers." My analysis is that while this may be true why does it have to apply to the group referred to in the stimulus? It could just as easily not apply to the group referred to in the stimulus, in which case it would not weaken the argument. Why should I have to make the assumption that the answer choice applies to the group referred to in the stimulus? If anyone can clarify for me it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I don't know if it is just my copy of the PT but on PT70 and PT72 the logic games are printed so that the rules are all on the front and you have to flip over to the back page to answer the majority of the questions so you are constantly flipping back and forth to look at the rules/diagram. Is there any chance the actual test be this way or is this just my PT? Thanks!

Since everyone is a bit confused, I'm making this thread. (I've copy/pasted this on threads that it's related to, so that may be why you might see this several times). Here's an explanation of what's going on in short form:

-We are recreating the Problem Sets.

-You can still access the old problem sets here: http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/old-problem-sets/

-No, you don't have to go back and complete the new problem sets we added. They are similar to the old one.

-If you've started with the old Problem Sets, you can continue with the old Problem Sets. That's not to say you can't look at the new Problem Sets / complete the new ones. Feel free. Just letting you know you might see repeated material amongst the new stuff.

I also want to clarify that no one is losing content in their existing package. You still have access to all the same Problem Sets you had when you signed up here:

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/old-problem-sets/

More info in this thread:

http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/comment/18273

@"Alan Cheuk" The problem sets are new (and packaged better), and some of it is old.

@Pacifico

is right on the button that we are going through PT 17-35 to extract the questions in a more systematic way. Before we had a loose selection of questions from PT 10-35 making up the problem sets.

The old problem sets were created without LSAT Analytics data, but now that we have information available, the new problem sets will use pretty much every question from PT 17-35 (way more questions than before). They also slowly ramp up in difficulty, so the early problem sets are the easiest ones, and then you slowly get to the harder ones.

Right now for the new problem sets Premium students get easy problem sets, Ultimate students get the easy and medium problem sets, and a TBA course level will get the easy medium and hard problem sets. The new problem sets also incorporate the LSAT Analytics data to make reviewing your answers easier.

Existing students get to keep access to the old problem sets (under "Old Problem Sets"), and get access to new problem sets if Premium or higher level. There is overlap between the old and new problem sets, so if you try both, you will see repeats.

We are still in the process of migrating. We've got the LR ones pretty much done, but are still working on RC and LG.

@Pacifico noticed a bug where Analytics wasn't linking to explanations (http://classic.7sage.com/forums/discussion/3052/site-changes#latest). That's not a change but a mistake (sorry!). I'm working on it :)

I hope this helps clear things up!

So, I understand why we can't download PDFs containing actual LSAC exam materials, but I can't help but feel a little cheated. I signed up after the whole download period ended. I know someone wants to reply and tell me about licensing fees and how 7Sage still has to pay all these fees for actual questions. I do understand.

My suggestion is to change the exams and PS that come with the the bundles to PTs that are available in the 10 Actuals books. Although not ideal, they are definitely a cost effective option. Having to pay full price for individual exams that are not available in those books or high prices for books that include 6 of the 10 exams that are included in the starter course just feels like a slap in the face and certainly does not make me want to invest even more money to upgrade my course.

I am not trying to come off angry, because I am not, but I do feel like I paid full price for half the product that other people received. It's a good product, but it used to be much better and I missed out.

So I understand how to apply the Blind Review method to full length PT's; take the test, circle uncertain ones, go back and review uncertain ones after the test before checking score. But when you're taking lessons and doing problem sets, and the course asks you to blind review a set of a dozen or so main conclusion etc. questions, how are we supposed to time ourselves on individual questions? Thanks for the help.