Have any of you taken any foreign LSATs for practice? Three Indian LSATS (administered by LSAC) are available for free on Cambridge's website (http://www.cambridgelsat.com/resources/free-downloads/logic-games-practice/). Since LSAC administers the exam, is it safe to assume that the content is comparable to the test administered here in the U.S.?

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I wanted to share mine. I frequently look at the law school numbers website to see who's been accepted, how much money has been awarded and etc. I see scores better than my official score, but much lower than my PT scores (either having worse gpas if not exactly the same) getting accepted and even with some scholarship pocket money. I was given a second chance to re-apply to my first choice if I can improve on my June exam. My blood boils at the fact that I can do so well but under performed when it counts, this motivates me to keep going, even when mentally fatigued (I don't mean burnt out.) To clarify I mean that if I've set up an agenda for that day I don't allow myself to fall short OR do it half-assed. GAAA I'm so angry! Fortunately this makes me a crap ton more motivated to keep going and noticing my improvement makes it all more enjoyable! If anyone else wants to share their take please feel free! I just had to let this out!

Hi 7sagers,

I have a question about test taking. At the end of the section the test proctor says "please put your pencils down."

While the proctor is saying this, can we bubble in our last answer(s)? Unfortunately as I am often considering 1 or 2 questions at the end of time on a section, this is a real concern for me. I want to be able to at least fill out a bubble for each question. And there is a second or two between when the proctor starts saying this and stops saying this which (if you are hovering on a last question) can allow you to jot down your best (or automatic) guess.

What are the experiences of those who have taken the test with this issue?

Thanks

So I'm going to be writing the October LSAT, and from what I've been reading scores are generally released 3 weeks after you write the LSAT on the LSAC website. I've also heard that they can be mailed to you in 4 weeks.

My question is how do the scores look like when you login to see them, is it a simple number out of 180, without showing what you got on each section, or something different?

Also I'm a bit worried that I won't be able to apply to schools if I receive scores in November, as that's close to the deadlines for most Canadian schools.

And place it near our booklet? Also what pencils should I use ? I've been drilling c mechanical ones up to this point .

I wanted to describe my experience and see..... more or less... if I am on the right track!!

I took the LSAT December 2014 and scored a disappointing 155. I have so far been rejected from 2/4 places I applied, and I have no hope for the last 2 schools! I took a mini break since December because I started prep for my bikini competition on May 18th. I did (since December until now) study between 1-2 hours a day, I retook the entire Ultimate Course again, and I recently finished the LG Bundle.

I took #36 today and consider that my "baseline" score. I received a 163. Although I am happy that it's higher than a 155, some questions felt "familiar" although I did still have to go through the answer choices to determine my answer. I know, once I get into the 60s and 70s for prep tests, that they won't feel familiar any longer, which is good! However, I am still a wee bit disappointed that my mark wasn't higher, especially given the familiarity of the questions.

Regardless, I am going to take this process slow, as I felt I burnt out considerably last time... with doing 5-6 hours of studying a day, waking up at 3:30 AM to workout, working 40 hours a week, and getting 4-5 hours of sleep a night. NOT GOOD. SO, I plan on writing a prep test 1x a week (Saturdays) and doing a full blind review on Sundays. THEN, once the blind review is completed, I plan on determining where my weaknesses are, make a study plan for the week, and utilize the Cambridge packages for both RC and LR practice.

I don't have a specific "target score" in mind, but I would like to get as high of a mark as possible. I plan to rewrite in October but I strongly feel that this is an exam you do better on the longer you practice, so I would consider taking it in December of 2015 if I don't feel prepared by October.

Also, to eliminate the "familiarity" of the questions, I'm going to start next weekend on Prep Test #50!

Does this seem like a good plan!?

Hi All...

I'm accepting reality and changing my test date from June to, well, October or December. I can't decide. On the one hand, if I don't keep having things happen that interrupt my preparation I could be ready by October, but life keeps happening, so maybe I should do December. If I change to October now, and later decide I want to stall ... er, change, again, can I later switch from October to December?

Thanks...

So, to make a long story short I took the Dec 2014 actual LSAT and did pretty decently (164). I plan to sit for the June 2015 administration (2 weeks!) and I aim to take about 7-8 more PTs before then. Today I was considering retaking the actual dec LSAT (aka PT 74) but I'm not sure if it's a good call. To be honest, my fear is that if I perform even slightly worse, let alone much worse, I will freak myself out before the June exam and carry this defeatist mentality that I am worse prepared now than in Dec (which I doubt to be true as I have been studying consistently since Feb). On the other hand, If I have any weaknesses in my game now, it would be better to reveal them with perhaps two weeks left to try and do some damage control, than go in there blind, so to speak. The most recent PT I have taken in this study cycle has been 54 so far. The PTs I have remaining are a few high 50s, low 60s, 71 and 73.

What are your opinions? Thank you so much in advance, and good luck to everyone in June!

I have not logged on in quite some time and can no longer find the place to print preptests from. I'm clicking n the test on the syllabus but it takes me to the page where I proctor and grade. Can someone help me navigate to the way to print the preptest itself?

I see there are just over 1000 questions with the Cambridge LR bundle.

Just wondering if they are more comprehensive than all of the LR practice sets with the 7Sage Ultimate package?

Trying to decide if I should buy the Cambridge bundle or just print off all of the LR practice sets on here to drill with.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-66-section-4-question-23/

I just wanted to hear other people's thoughts on this question. It just felt totally weird to me, it seemed like the correct answer choice was inconsequential compared to the central disagreement, which I *incorrectly* assumed was damaging to the environment vs. not damaging.

Jolene appears to be taking issue with Alex's premise rather than the conclusion or the argument itself. Thoughts?

I thought I had cleared my major hurdles with logic games... Boy,was I wrong. If 68 is any indication of how future logic games will be then I am screwed. Did anybody figure these out at first try? This would have led to me walking out of the testing center and going home. The third is hard but the fourth is just ridiculous.

Hi - looking for a study/accountability buddy. I've been getting ready for the October LSAT. I am finishing up the 7sage curriculum by mid June or so and then I will be taking PTs. Let me know if you want to buddy up. Thx.

This might be a strange question; hoping I can explain myself properly...!

I plan to start PTing soon for the October test. I've been through the core curriculum twice, the Trainer twice and the LG bundle once.

For those of you PTing, is it normal to start the process without feeling you have a totally firm grasp of each concept? Something inside me is misleading me into thinking that I need to be 100% sharp-skilled and "test ready" for I dive into the PTs. When deep down I know that the extra work that the PTs spur on, in context, is what will actually make me test ready.

So, in conclusion, is it normal to enter PTing somewhat foggy? I don't want to keep feeling I must learn more first, and enter dangerous ground of delaying PTing too much.

I'm debating whether to take june or October And can't schedule October without canceling june .

How do test sites look for October in SF?

There is no test center anymore anywhere in San Jose or in the whole SF South Bay region for ANY test administration!!

There used to a few in San Jose. Now none exists in the region for the upcoming June/Oct/Dec/Feb tests. Santa Clara U is also closed.

South Bay takers, where are you testing?

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Not sure who would have to be the architect for this, and I'm sure it wouldn't be done before I take the LSAT in October, but I was thinking for future 7Sagers it would be nice to make the study schedule more interactive. As an example, I have had the Ultimate package for a while now and I recently finished the curriculum and have taken a couple of PTs, but I also just bought the most recent PTs when they were on sale before the LSAC PDF ban took effect. I also bought the PS bundle to complete the total 7Sage package. Because of this, and also due to the removal of the LG Bundle, my schedule has gone all over the place. Previously I was supposed to have started PTs next week, but now I'm supposed to have already finished 6 PTs.

I think it would be great if we could pick what we wanted to be on our schedule and then generate based on those chosen tasks whether it was specific lessons or whole subsections of the curriculum. For example, I don't need the PS Bundle to appear the week before the LSAT since I won't be working on it then, but I would like the LG Bundle to be factored back in. I think the best possible way to do this would be to somehow integrate the syllabus with the study schedule so that I could star any items that I wanted on my schedule and then set a start date and test date. This way I could star specific lessons to review throughout my PT schedule in order to make sure I was keeping all my skills up without having to go back and search out those lessons.

Anyways, I'm sure this is asking a lot of the creators of this site, but I love this site and have gotten so much out of it that I just wanted to make this suggestion to see if there was any popular support for such an improvement and hopefully we could help out future users based on our own user experiences.

I'm about to head off for my first two-week vacation since starting LSAT prep in January.

Just wondering if anyone has any tips for how to cut back while not losing too much momentum? We're not going to have wifi for the final week, and there's lots planned during the trip. I can probably dedicate an hour a day to LSAT early in the morning, before we set off for the day's "fun" (or, marital bickering!).

I was considering taking the Trainer to re-read, and also buying the Cambridge drilling packets to work through a little each day, as well as taking along some logic games.

Any suggestions welcomed!

When Studying for LR I find something strange happens [This does not happen all the time, just sometimes]. During PTs (usually in the first section of LR introduced) I don't do extremely well (I get about -10/-11).. Later on when I visit the second set of LR I do a lot better (about -5/-6). This happens when taking full-length PTs, or if I decide to dissect 2 LR sections from a PT I don't plan on taking all at once (due to either time constraints or my lack of intention to fully utilize that particular PT.) I was wondering if anyone else had experienced this. At first I thought it was a sign that I was improving, but now I'm not sure if it's a stroke of luck, or w/e. If anyone has any input let me know!

Hi All,

I'm about 20% through 7Sage's course, and I've learned quickly that the format for the majority of the lessons isn't "sticking" for me because I'm a visual learner. The lessons that have transcripts and/or are just written, I do just fine comprehending. I've found that I have the videos on 1.2x to 1.4x speed because I don't have the patience to listen to all of the extraneous info, side comments, and attempts at humorous jibber jabber. In other words, I'm struggling because I don't feel like the majority of the foundational lessons are well-scripted and tend to ramble than rather get straight to the point. I have neither the time nor attention span for ramblings.

Any tips on getting through the rest of the material? I was disappointed to find that as I continued through the course there are little-to-no transcripts, as compared with the earlier lessons. I'm getting really discouraged, and I'm starting to default back to PowerScore at this point. I feel that as I try to push myself to really tune into the lessons, the more I lose attention to task. To give you a better idea, I don't listen to talk radio because it induces sleep (especially at the wheel...). Help!!!

Hey 7Sagers,

Had someone ask a question that I thought you could help with! Here it is:

I keep running into one problem consistently; I rush due to the time pressure and I always end up getting about 20% of my questions wrong. I'm not sure how to manage my time and relieve that time pressure so I don't jump on wrong answers too quickly. I end up worrying about not having enough time on the real test and missing the last bit of questions on a section. As a result, I rush and either pick a tempting answer or I miss reading and internalizing important details on the stimulus. Can you please give me some sort of advice to manage the stress of the time factor so I perform better in the questions?

For anyone preparing to take the June exam, or has taken an LSAT exam in the past: what are you doing (or have you done in the past) to prepare at this point, beyond your normal studying? Personally, some things I've focused on are:

1. Being alert and prepared mentally around 12:30 every day, regardless if I'm working, studying, or even enjoying a day off. For me, this requires getting good sleep, eating a good breakfast, and getting adequate exercise.

2. Making time for rest and relaxation in these next couple weeks. I've accepted the fact that my score won't be hugely affected by any last minute studying in the nights before the exam, so I made sure to plan only light/moderate studying during those last several days before the test. Spending time with friends (not including going out and partying) is also included in my plans.

3. Simulating test conditions more accurately, including always using the LSAT proctor, using an analog watch, and testing/studying at around 12:30 (if life allows).

I'm curious to hear what everyone else is doing to prepare themselves for the exam. I'm also curious as to how everyone plans to approach practice tests in the next several weeks. Do you plan on saving some of the most recent ones you have access to for the last week until the test? Do you plan at taking any at all that week?

Hello,

So basically I have been studying for close to a year now and I am preparing to take the exam one last time. My February LSAT score was a 164 and I am really hoping to go up a few points. I am taking the LSAT in June and pretty much all I am doing at this point is taking fresh PTs, Blind Reviewing, and then reviewing those question types I get wrong. I have exhausted all possible drills, lessons, theoretical discussions, etc. I have taken Blueprint and 7sage all the way through. To put it short, I am looking for some insight/guidance that can go beyond what these courses teach and can provide some personal advice that has worked for people struggling with similar scenarios. From my last 5 PTs alone, there is a consistent trend. I cannot get to the 4th passage of RC, LG is flawless, and LR is usually in the -3 to -5 range. From those LR questions, it is Necessary and Flaw questions that continue to trip me up. I have drained every possible lesson/theory on Necessary questions. I understand their function, their role within a stimulus, and how to confirm whether the necessary assumption I choose is the right one or not (aka negating and seeing if validity still holds up). With Flaws, I have learned the 13 prevalent fallacies and how to spot them. Does anyone have suggestions or advice for how to destroy these questions? If I'm getting the question right, I still often times end up spending extra time on it to confirm my correctness (a nasty habit, I know, but something I just can't seem to shake). Finally, skipping is out of the question since my skipping is reserved for absurdly long parallel/parallel flaw questions that I do not want to bother wasting my time on. Any help at all would be so awesome! Thank you!

Do you guys have a strategy for what to do during a PT or a test when you just don't understand a passage after repeatedly reading it and are starting to run out of time?

I graduated college in 2014 but I've owned my business since 2012 and have various business partners, consultants, and attorneys who I work very closely with. I was planning on asking them to write letters of recommendation for me but I recently found out the law schools want letters from college professors. My letters of recommendation from my business associates will be a lot stronger because they know me better than many of my college professors knew me. These people are highly successful professionals (CEOs, Lawyers, University President's etc.) whose opinion I think would hold just as much, if not more, weight than college professors who don't have as great of a relationship with me. Do you all think that having these people write my recommendations instead of reaching out to old professors will significantly hurt my application? Should I attach an addendum to the application explaining why I chose business professionals instead of old professors to write my letters? I will likely also be attaching a GPA addendum to my application as well.