Hello all,

Me again. I'm starting PTs excessively early. I'm Blind Reviewing but not reviewing too intensively yet on incorrect questions. I'm a retaker so I have a base of knowledge and know my problem areas on the entirety of the LSAT but I'm not too far into my 7Sage course. I'm looking at October for a retake which is what I think will be honestly more than enough time to get to my target score of 170+. I work full-time and I know it will be very difficult for me to do 2-3 PTs a week when it gets close to game day. I took the June 2007 PT last month scored a 149 timed and 155 Blind review. I took PT 44-October 2004 this weekend. I got a 153 timed and 160 Blind Review. Now, that is higher than any of the PTs I took for preparing my first "real" LSAT in September and the September score was a 145 about average to what I was doing on PTs at the time. I never dreamed of seeing a 160 this early in my prep, even on BR. And I'm having a difficult time giving myself credit for improvement. Admittedly, its not huge but its an improvement nonetheless. Essentially what I am getting at is I've heard the older tests are easier and how indicative of improvement are the older tests? And furthermore, its just two tests that are better, should I consider consistency? I know I need more improvement but to see improvement is good I think, but I worry about giving myself any sense of false confidence. Any advice would be appreciated.

Just looking for some advice. I'm right at the start of things....

Just completed the 'Most Strongly Supported' module and averaged 72% on all of the 54 practice questions at the end. As I am unlikely to encounter this question type again until I start drilling practice tests...could I improve during that stage?

Perhaps I'm not wording it correctly (It doesn't read right to me!): Is it possible to improve on a specific question type will drilling PTs, or have I reached a plateau on my standard because I've completed the theory module?

Any advice welcomed!

Well, LSAT over and today was my last LSAT day EVER as I've already been accepted to what is probably my #1 law school choice, taking all factors into consideration. Remembering the LSAC/7Sage rules of confidentiality, how did it go for fellow 7Sagers? I felt it went okay though it will make a difference which turns out to be the experimental section as one went better for me than the other. Cockroaches in my hotel room last night didn't help me get a relaxed night's sleep but the test center did a really good job - efficient and pleasant. Hope you all did yourself proud :-)

It seems that no matter what I do, I can't get any better at these things. I think that most of my problem is that I am relatively slow at critical reading, but I have always been like that and I don't really see it changing much. Not much that I really am expecting to get out of this, I just felt like taking a break and whining.

I saw that the December NYC group had a ton of replies and was wondering if anyone is interested in doing one for June. I live in upper Manhattan and can commute (as long as its under 1 hour each way).

I work full time and also am in grad school so weekends work the best for me but I can also do some week nights as well. Strengths are RC and some LG but currently terrible at LR, so I will be focusing on those quite a bit.

Hi!

I'm looking for a study buddy/ group for June 2014. I would like to meet 1-2 times a week to review PTs and go over problems, or review 7Sage material.

I'm looking for an online study buddy because I live in rural Washington state, and I haven't had any luck with finding local people to study with.

PM me! And perhaps we can meet soon to talk about a study plan.

Thanks!

Amanda

Hi,

I was wondering if you guys were reading any good books while studying for the LSAT? I wanted to know if any of you could recommend any? It's make RC easier for me :)

Hey 7Sagers, I think it would be great to get a bunch of Calgary LSAT geeks together to work towards the June 2015 exam. PM me if you'd like to set something up!

... Unless you like spam. But I don't think you do.

Here's the deal: Spambots are peeking at the discussion forum, taking down your emails and setting it up for junk mail. That's no good - I should know. I had to change emails quite a few times in the past. (Personal Note: Microsoft is junk about junk mail. No proper settings. Gmail is better.)

So: Don't include emails! PM them instead. :)

On my ticket it says the test can take up to 7 hours. Can it take more than the standard 3 hours? I can't imagine a timed test could go over...

hi i am starting my prep june 2015 exam. i have been looking around at various prep courses but i think 7sage is the cheapest and makes sense for me 4 months left. i have taken two prep tests and scored around 152.

I will buy the 3 month package i was wondering if any one else is on the same page as me.

Hi guys, I'm not sure where to post this - I apologize if it is in the wrong spot.

So I received a fee waiver in over the summer and I found out [in December] that my information did not arrive and I quickly re-registered for February 2015 and faxed my information to a direct line. Everything was all set, even though I knew February would be tough because I don't have normal work hours and I had to request time off for December.

My unit is e-duty this weekend and I was last on rotation for emergency calls, but "as luck would have it..."

I'm leaving in about 30 minutes to pick up a kid who ran away from his placement for the third time in 6 months. Four hour round trip, not counting amount of time we're going to spend looking for an appropriate place tonight/this morning.

I was trying to find something on LSAC which indicated what to do for emergency illness or situation on the day of an exam, if you have a fee waiver. I can only find deadline / cancellation details.

I don't know if it's better to no-show and let someone know an emergency came up or if I should try to contact someone right now. I don't want to lose a waiver for two tests, but I realize that may happen. I'm hoping to at least reschedule for June and keep part of the waiver, but I don't know if this will disqualify me in some way.

There's probably information on here somewhere, but I'm throwing on clothes and getting phone calls and alerts on my work cell, so I can't think clearly. Any direct info or insight would help me so much. Thanks.

Hi guys!

So I am a senior in college and will be signing up to take the June LSAT. I am currently scoring in the 165-166 range but am looking to score at least a 170 in June. I will be having a very busy senior spring and thought it wise to try and find people to study with in order to keep up the energy and motivation for the next coming months. Also, I think it's a great way to speed up the learning process by learning from each other. While I will not be able to meet (school in a relatively remote location), correspondence by email/Skype/morse code/Batman signals would all be ways to stay in touch (albeit some more ideal than others). Thanks and happy studying!

Hey guys,

I am in the DC area. Just wanted to know if anyone of you guys interested in a study buddy? We could meet in person, or contact via email to discuss questions we did not get.

How would you guys diagram this statement?

Hi!! I write often, but I noticed something this morning.

I took the December 2014 LSAT and received a disappointing 155. I studied for about 4-5 months prior to, first with the Kaplan books (WHAT A MISTAKE), and I only really picked up on 7Sage when it was closer to 3 months before the exam. I work full time, but I crammed my mornings/lunch breaks/after work with LSAT prep and got through the course as quickly as I could. I then took a bunch of prep tests and went into my exam unsure how I would do.

Anyways, I'm going through the entire Ultimate course this time. I'm on the Flaw section and I am writing out on most of the questions my reasoning for getting the answers right/ why the wrong answers are wrong. Sometimes I look at earlier comments and notice that I commented previously. But.... when I look at what I wrote before, it's like "I got this answer right... but because I eliminated this...but I was really stuck between two answer choices". This time, however, I am able to KNOW what the answer should look like before going into the answer choices. Not only that, but I am not wavering between two choices. I know why it's right. I know why the others are wrong.

I wanted to write this because my 155 really upset me. I won't get into my law schools that I applied for with that mark, but this is a marathon. Some people can do it in 3 months and walk out with a great score. Some people can't. So, IN a big long explanation, if you're losing hope and thinking that diagnostic score just won't budge.... don't give up. Be persistent. Understanding something takes time, and takes it sinking into your core. Just embrace it, try and learn as much as you can, and PERSIST! :) You can do it. We allllll can do it!

Hey everyone! I've been reviewing valid and invalid argument forms this afternoon, and I'm having a bit of trouble so any help would be greatly appreciated! I'm trying to relate valid and invalid argument forms in terms of qualifiers and inferences that can be made from them - it's giving me a better and helpful perspective when evaluating arguments. From the LSAT Trainer I know that using the qualifier some + some = no inferences; some + most = no inferences; and most + most = inferences. First, is this a correct way to relate valid v invalid argument forms? It seems to me that it works to differentiate the two, but I'd like someone else's thoughts on that before I begin to rely on it.

For example: this is a valid argument because we can infer from "most" + "most" (Valid Argument Form 9)

A most B

A most C

_________

B some C

However this is not a valid argument form (Invalid Argument Form 7): because we cannot make inferences from "some" + "some"

A some B

A some C

_________

B some C

Second, going off of this information, I'm a bit confused on 7sage's Invalid Argument Form 6 which is:

A most B most C

_______________

A some C

7sage gives the example of: Most cats are mammals. Most mammals are not cats. Some cats are not cats. - And clearly that "english" example makes no sense. But I am a bit confused on how that translates into "lawgic". I know from the Miscellaneous group of logical indicators that is/are "are predicates that point to their subjects and say those are necessary". So am I correct to "translate" this invalid english argument to be:

Mammals most Cats

Not Cats most Mammals

_____________________

Not Cats some Cats

Using the logical indicators this makes sense to me, but I'm struggling to see how this example mirrors Invalid Argument Form 6 that I referenced above so I feel I am translating incorrectly and would appreciate someones correction. This english statement was also given with it: Most A’s are B’s. Most B’s are C’s. Therefore, some A’s are C’s - but using actual examples is most helpful to me - but, like I said, I'm struggling to relate the given english example with the lawgic and I'm not sure what I am doing wrong when translating the statement given that it does not match the Invalid Argument Form 6 lawgic.

Hope this all makes sense, and thank you for any help/response!

Let's say I earned a 163 on my lsat, and was accepted to the law school I wanted to get into, but was not offered a scholarship. If I retake the LSAT after being accepted, and earn a significantly higher score, would I have to opportunity to negotiate for a scholarship for my second year of law school?

If you cancel your score after taking the test, does this count as one of the three times you're allowed to take the LSAT within 5 years? Thanks in advance for letting me know :)

Hi. I am going to give the Lsat in June 2015. I was wondering if anyone else is interested in becoming a partner to discuss plans and goals via email and messages ( i cant study with someone on skype). I will be starting the &sage 3 month course in the next two days. shall be waiting.

Ok question on this. Lets say we have "if A then no B unless C". According to JY we can diagram as follows:

A-->(B-->C)

we pull the first term in the parentheses out and make the arrow an and to yield:

resulting statement 1: A and B --> C

or we could have diagrammed the original statement as

A--> (~C-->~B)

pulling the first term out and adding an and yields:

resulting statement 2: A and ~C --> ~B

I was expecting resulting statements 1 and 2 to be logically equivalent but they are not. Can anyone clarify why this is not the case? I would imagine this affects one's chances of correctly answering a question with an embedded conditional.

did anyone else find pt 74 harder than pt 73? i just finished taking it, and i feel like such a loser. My score from 73 to 74 was a MAJOR decline. the test is tomorrow and i felt so confident, but now i just feel useless. any advice? thanks!

I purchased 74 and I cannot find where to access it. I clicked on Course, Discussion, Resources, and my profile. It has to be somewhere.... ughhh

I'm scared to spend so much time on the deductions of the sketch or to make additional options. It makes sense to me but I feel like I would take too much time. How do you know when it's ok to make a few sketches?

Hey everyone!

I noticed that a lot of folks are using the Manhattan LR book as an additional study guide. I am wondering if the Manhattan RC and LG books are are also worth purchasing. Thoughts?

Is the consensus that Manhattan Prep is best for LR, Cambridge bundles are good for LR drilling and the Trainer is best for LG and RC?

Are there any additional bundles [worth] purchasing for LG and RC? Would it be Cambridge?

I want to purchase additional material but I'm not sure which books/bundles to get. I am interested in knowing what others experiences have been with these materials.

Thanks!