Just signed up today -- planning on returning to school and am really trying to obliterate this exam. Looking for like-minded people for accountability, study groups(?). I am free during all weeknights!

Hey guys, another question!

I was curious, what methods, if any, do you guys generally like to take directly before you take a PT (or plan to do before the actual test) to not walk in on a test cold.

What I mean is, do you normally do a Logic game, to warm up? Read an RC passage? Nothing?

Just curious, as I generally do a logic game or two, and a couple LR questions to warm up. Regardless, I've seen a trend of -7 in the first LR, and then a -3/-0 in the second LR after ive 'warmed up' on the first section. Is it possible I should do more LR to bust in on the first LR section more effectively, or are my results merely due to a tendency for the test makers to make one LR section more difficult than the other? Am I in danger or doing to much before a test resulting in exhaustion?

Just curious about your warm up strategies!

First off 7sage logic game explanations are a Godsend. Logic games are the only section I really struggled with, but I am finally starting to feel semi confident on them with the help of 7sage.

My question is on the relevancy of old PTs. I bought a pack of 10 PTs from LSAC. I have taken 7, 9, and 10. Scoring 179, 170, and 173. The 170 after I ran out of time on a logic game and guessed 5 questions wrong. So I am feeling pretty confident for a Feb test, but I know these PTs are from the 90s. Am I in for a rude awakening when I start to deal with more recent tests?

Hey guys,

I was curious how often during an LR section do you try or prefer to write out the conditional logic?

Do you only do it when you generally HAVE to, or do you prefer it to simplify the situation at hand?

When you see a logical indicator do you immediately chart it, or does it ALWAYS depend on the question stem?

I'm wondering if I'm wasting time charting conditional statements when they aren't actually relevant.

Hey 7Sagers! Got a question in my inbox that I think you might be able to help out with. Here it is:

Hi I have a question about lsdas gpa conversition to ugpa. I graduated llb program in my country ı want to jd at top14 law school .fırst year İ took civil law but my grade was (FF) ,family law (FF),criminal law(FF) then ı entered University exam again and ı changed my law school . My school accepted all my fırst year and second year courses without civil law, family law,criminal law and in my transcript fırst year and second year courses writing (E) mean Exempt. but civil law,family law,criminal law courses grades were (FF) , I took these three courses again and my civil law grade(AA),family law grade (AA) , criminal law grade(AA), ı graduated from istanbul university. in istanbul university transcript these three courses grades were(AA) but In my previous university transcripts these three courses grade wriring(FF).If lsac accept my two transcripts of the three courses will be counted again.what can i do for this problem? or is this problem for my lsdas gpa calculation?Thnx a lot for your helping

I'm trying to plan ahead and set goals accordingly as best I can. I hope to have my bachelor complete in 16 months, that would put me at entering law school in the fall of 2016. So with that being said, I could potentially submit applications late this year/early 2016, to start the fall term of 2016. So say that I apply and then determine that I possibly wouldn't finish my bachelor until the fall 2016 term at my undergrad school, then that would mean I couldn't enter law school until 2017. So if I applied to attend in 2016, and then ultimately could not due to not yet earning my bachelor, would I have to reapply again for a different semester/year? I hope that makes sense!

Hello,

I've been working on applications and was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers to improve my resume for application purposes. I have my work resume but for Law Schools what should I emphasize or in what ways should it differ from my work one. Thanks in advance!

Can one use scrap paper or not during the LSAT? I have seen a couple of different things re: scrap paper... I took one PT and I thought it said no scrap paper.. and then reading an LSAT superprep book from the LSAC it provides advice on how to abbreviate or shorthand for your notes, is this just in terms of studying and not during the test?

Ok. Since taking the December LSAT, I have purchased the Premium package and have started studying again. I am aiming to write in June, but will push it back until October if I feel I am not ready.

I want to get my fundamentals down. I am taking each lesson slowly. I have all of the LR Cambridge packages, so I'm wondering.......

Since I've already written it. When I'm going through the lessons (the first one being MC questions), should I go through the lesson and then go through the Cambridge package afterwards, Blind Reviewing all the questions? Or should I just simply go through the lessons and then leave my Cambridge packages until I am writing practice exams?

Thanks :)

Hello,

I took the LSAT in September 2014, got a 145. From taking PTs, I knew before I took it that I wasn't going to do well but it was disappointing to say the least. It was lower than expected. For prep, I used primarily self-study with the PowerScore Bibles. I also used The LSAT Trainer sparingly. At the time, I thought PowerScore was geared towards my detail-oriented mind that tends to over-complicate things. But it turns out I learned that there is a point where it is too detailed and too complex even for me. I actually slacked off a lot the first time and I wasn't able to finish any of the books which I think further contributed to my score but I don't feel I understood the material well either. The experience was enough to realize I need simplicity. I registered for the 7Sage Starter course and started my prep work. I plan on upgrading in the near future to the 7Sage Ultimate course. I've been reading some in The LSAT Trainer as well. I just read the introduction and I'm already seeing things more clearly. And I'm thinking about digging into my PowerScore books and getting some of the Cambridge problem sets. My question is can I and should I use other prep companies or will that over complicate things?

I bought the 7sage Ultimate bundle, and I still am not able to review Prep Test 73. Am I missing something?

Hello all,

I am planing on taking the LSAT for the 3rd and final time. Currently, I'm not sure which test date to sign up for. June is appealing because I can apply the first day apps are open, but I have to study during my final semester of UG and I am jaded with studying during school. I also feel like I will always wonder what I've could've done with those extra 3 months of prep.

Sept/Oct sounds more appealing because I'll have the whole summer to go hard studying and can take it light during this next semester. However, I can't apply as early, but it seems to me there's not much of a difference in admissions decisions/$$$ that early in the cycle.

Any input is appreciated. This also applies to when I'm going to buy the 7sage starter kit, as it only lasts 3 months.

So I heard from a few people that Top Schools were sending them fee waivers to apply even though their LSAT scores were below (some even 5 points less) than the 25th percentile acceptances. Are these schools doing this on purpose to make applicants apply and just reject them so that their "stats" look good?

I've signed up for the Premium plan and plan to study with 7sage (and other methods of self studying) for 6-7 months and then have a tutor for 3 months. I'll be taking the October 2015 test. I currently work at a top 3 NYC law firm as a paralegal, so I have long hours and a fairly unpredictable week. My plan is to leave work one day a week at 5:30 to study until 11 and then study on Sat/Sun each week.

Of course, I'm worried about burning out, but this elongated schedule is the only way I can see myself actually being able to get in enough time for studying.

A bit about what else will be in my application:

I gradated from a top 15 liberal arts school Summa Cum Laude with a 3.95 GPA, and I studied on a scholarship to Oxford for a year (my GPA was a bit lower at Oxford which will bring my overall down a tad). I have set myself up so that I have 0 concerns about getting in anywhere (great professor letters of rec, I'm a good writer, etc) based on all of that, but the LSAT is my kryptonite. I studied logic at Oxford and I still freak out when reviewing the test.

I'm dying to break 170. My eyes are set heavily on Stanford, but I also think UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, UMich would be good fits (obviously Yale and Harvard aren't out!)

Any and all advice is VERY welcome. Any advice from people with long schedules like this?

I was about to purchase a bunch of Cambridge packages for LR and LG, but I'm wondering... does anyone have any they want to pass along? I have a few I would be willing to share! MSS, Flaw, NA, SA, Point at Issue, Humanities passages, and Social Sciences passages (RC).

Not sure if we're allowed to do this, but if we are, is anyone willing?? E-mail me! Harrismegan@live.ca

Hi Guys,

Just got the Cambridge set for LR and RC. How would you recommend I drill those in the most time efficient manner. Should I do every single question?

Currently, Im just going through every single question but doing 1500+ questions for LR purposes might take too long.

Let me know what you guys think

Thanks for all the help

Hey Everyone.

My name is Melissa! I tried to study and take the LSAT December 2014. I crashed and burned two weeks before the test. Between working full-time and studying 30+ hours a week I couldn't take it. I am looking to take this LSAT study plan much more calmly, but am looking for someone to study with either in person ( I am in the greater Los Angeles area..think CSUN) or am willing to via Skype. My email is [removed]

Note from Student Services: Don't include emails! PM instead. :)

I'm not doing too bad on the PTs, not quite where I would love to be but I am definitely seeing improvement in my blind review scores. The problem is I consistently have about 5 problems leftover each section as the time runs out. I am becoming more accurate but not any faster. I was wondering if anyone had any tips or ideas on how to be quicker? Thanks!

I took the LSAT and I didn't do well. Now I need methods on how to improve my score.

did everyone receive the score email?

I live in Canada (Alberta), and still have not received the email yet.

Any idea?

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I got 7Sage for Christmas and began studying immediately after. My plan is to study for 6 months and then be as prepared as possible for the June LSAT and just in case I don't do as well as desired I still have the option for the October test. I was wondering if it is just a completely stupid idea to go and sit for the February LSAT even though I won't remotely be prepared enough - just to kind of get a feel for the environment so that I would be surprised by anything on the actual day of. The school I want to get in to only takes the top score so I wouldn't think that this could hurt me in any way, but I may be wrong. I was just wondering if anybody had any additional thoughts on this idea? Why it be good or bad? Thanks! - Mack

I'm planning on sitting in June 2015 and I just began studying Dec 26, 2014. My raw score for the very first prep test that we were told to do was a 149 - so not too bad but definitely need to improve. I was just wondering how often I should be doing the practice tests. I'm in school full time and I work full time so I don't exactly have the 4 hours a day to study like this calls for, but I was just wondering if anyone had any advice on the best way to optimize my time??

Thanks!

Hellooooo. I need some advice.

Sadly, I did not do well on the LSAT this December. I got a 155. I started studying in May, but I didn't start with 7Sage and I had zero idea what I was doing or the best method to study. I found 7Sage in August, but I took a trip to England at the end of August, so I didn't really start studying for real until September. Needless to say, I only really started improving towards the end, so I think I started improving when it was too late. I took the test anyways and decided not to cancel.

I don't think I'll get in for this cycle. But I'm looking at my options. I live in Canada.

My GPA isn't the best. I struggled in my first two years with what I wanted to do with my life, so I went the Science route and took some pretty tough courses. I thought I wanted to go into Medicine. Regardless, it's around a 3.58 for the U of A (they take your last 20 courses and + if it cuts a year in half) and about a 3.3/3.4 for U of BC and U of Vic. I can take courses additional to my degree, but doing so would mean I was working full time, taking courses, studying for the LSAT, ect.

My Mom and I both think that trying to achieve the best possible LSAT score would be better than trying to increase my GPA. Just because I would have to get really great marks AND studying for the LSAT at the same time. What do you guys think?

People can be admitted at the schools of my choice with the GPA that I indicated, although it's not the best. I know I have LSAT potential, but I'm scared of "putting all my eggs in one basket" and writing the LSAT next June or next October to get no further ahead and to regret not taking additional courses.

Addditionally, I thought that if I brought a stronger application that might help. I am going to be teaching people in my community english once a week and my sister and I are going to go to Italy to teach children english next October (after the LSAT).

What do you think I should do? Thanks :)

Hi all,

Flipping through the threads on the 7sage site helped me see that I am not the only one who ever had a "fear" of this test and then found every possible way to psych themselves out or make it feel so much worse than it really is.

If any of you know your abilities are in the high scorer range (170+) but you find yourself feeling angsty worrying about time while taking the test (a sure focus killer) - just try this.

Relax. Sit down to take a section and practice questions for that section for a few hrs. Snack for a quick 15 min break, then sit down to complete a section. Instead of setting the timer for 35 min, set a stop watch. Move at a comfortably fast pace through the section, but diligently apply yourself to each question. Find your rhythm. Upon completing the last question in the section, hit the lap button on your stopwatch, and then take a quick look back at the handful of questions you were iffy on. This should also be at a comfortably fast pace. Once finished with the second glance, hit the stop button on your stopwatch.

Both times might be revealing, and hopefully reassuring if you've just been psyching yourself out thinking about how much time is left on the clock when you should be answering questions.

There are so many things in life you might have thought would be a huge deal to actually achieve, and then after the fact you realize it really wasn't as bad as you were making it out to be. I hope this helps!

Best,

C.

Hi everyone.

I am so down because I practiced so hard and I scored nearly my initial diagnostic in the December LSAT. Initial diagnostic was a 154 and my LSAT score is 157. I was practicing at 164 average with 167 top score and blind reviewed in the 170s in the end. I knew i could keep going to get better to solidify but really wanted to get it out of the way since I have been studying 1.5 years on and off. I have 4 kids and I feel if I retake I might end up running out of time again. Taking very few full timed practice tests and finishing sections when I had gotten the kids snacks thinking to myself 'the time it took to pay attention to them I will just add to the end and it comes out as if I had cut off at 35 minutes.' was not working. I know I am t14 material with a 3.96 GPA and the capability to score 168 if I just can hurry up/prepare more focused. I don't know if I will ever have the chance. I don't want to schedule a retake and then just be crushed again. I used to be so bad on logic games and i actually thought the rug game was not that hard, was so proud. I actually only got 7 wrong on Logic Games which is great for me. I would score 165 and get 10 wrong on Logic Games. I am really really sad seeing my chances at Berkeley or Stanford slip away and having to settle for Santa Clara. What should I do?