Last week I had increased my PT score by 7 points, but the one I took after that was 5 points lower. Has anyone had a fluctuation like this before, or do most people just consistently improve? Any advice/comment would help on how people generally improve from PT to PT

What was/is the question type(s) that you struggle with? How did you get over your struggle? What word of advice can you give to someone struggling with the question type?

Not sure if such a post was already attempted before, but I think this would be a good thread to start to get different question types perspectives, and ways to get over the difficulty of a question type.

So, let me begin. The most difficult question type for me are assumption questions. I did not really get over my struggle yet with NA but with SA I got over my struggle by first mapping out the conditionals, and with that practice I just began to see what needed to be linked up for a valid argument. My advice would be practice with a purpose, and understand what you are doing wrong, and why you are not getting to the right answer. Look for what terms need to be connected to make the valid argument, and understand which is the premise and the conclusion.

I currently suck at this question type. I mean I do not have a clue on what I am doing even when applying the negation test. what is a good strategy to get over these woes?

So I am in the section of the curriculum where I am doing Logic Games, and I wanted to get your opinions on my strategy of tackling the practice problems. What I have been doing is doing the games on my own no matter how long they take until I figured out every inference on my own, sometimes it takes really long, sometimes I get the inferences in seconds. I do not watch JY's explanation until I am done with the game. Is this what I should be doing to get better at inferences, or is it better to just watch the game explanation if I am unable to make the inference?

Someone please help, I still do not know how to do these question types. I have reviewed the curriculum many times, but it is still not sticking.

Any suggestions?

Hello everyone!

First time poster, long time lurker.

I'm looking to get some advice on what would be my best study option leading up to the October LSAT. My PT scores seem to have hit a plateau around 158-160 right now. My latest BR score was 173, so I realize that there is room for PLENTY of improvement in both PT and BR. Anyway, I've started to obsess over this stupid test and have no problem with retaking in December if I can't reach my goal of 170 by October. With that said, what study method do you all recommend for maximizing my score for October and leading into December? I know more PT/BR will help but should I be focusing more time on fundamentals/specific question types?

Thanks!

Hope you're all having a lovely HUMP DAAAY.

PT61 BR Tonight at 8pm ET

Ok, ok, ok. we've had 2 people so far say they can't make 7pm ET like we'd planned. SO. We're doing 8pm ET for tonight. Let's just all calm down and play it by ear. Oh BTW, we're 52 days from October 3rd. Freaked out yet ???!?

Nah, bro. Join us for soothing rhythms and transcendent insights on tonight's BR call.

Note on all groups

Who here has developed a system for skipping questions? What type of criterion does it/must it fulfill for you to justify a skip? Any and all insights will be illuminating! :)

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-1-question-07/

Can someone explain to me how they arrived at the correct answer using their process?

Maybe a silly question to some, but nonetheless this is important to me and possibly many more.

Does anyone have a particular pencil brand/type which abides to the HB / #2 pencil requirements needed for the LSAT of which they recommend?

I ask this because I am tired of shopping for pencils that either 1, fail to sharpen correctly (e.g.) break repeativley upon sharpening. 2, have worthless erasers (e.g.) smudge pencil marks more that remove them.

I know right?! I'm asking about pencils. I should be honing in on my sufficient assumption logic mapping, however the frustration and energy used in cursing my pencils is taking away from that.

Thanks in advance

Hello 7sagers,

Have you read the book "Tomorrow's Lawyers"?

http://www.amazon.com/Tomorrows-Lawyers-Introduction-Your-Future/dp/019966806X

I don't even know whether I should recommend it to you before the LSAT since it is quite pessimistic about the legal profession.

In a nutshell, the writer predicts that in decades most law firms need to, if not be forced to, ultimately transform themselves to survive in the market due to the new technology. He also claims that the apogee of legal profession was in 2006, and most law firms charge much more than they deserve, merely because corporations used to pay since it seems only small percentage of a given deal.

The author's argument is that most well-paid lawyers currently only provide technical services, which is not as professional as it seems and can be replaced by new technologies.

Since I am not a lawyer and not familiar with the firm milieu, I can't tell whether it is true or not.

I believe that some of you like me don't pursuit the law degree just for a lucrative job, but I am still concerned about the future, especially when it comes to paying back loans.

I would love to hear any of your opinions, for the book, for future, etc.

Hey guys, what's the consensus on drilling the weird games from the early 90's? I''m not finding that similar inferences come across these games and I don't know if doing one will help with another. However, I understand that these styles of games have been popping up again on modern LSAT's but unless I'm completely missing something here, I'm finding that a lot of intuitive inferences arise from the individual games, but don't parallel across the misc game range. I've been doing them for the sake of flexing some mental muscles here and there, but not necessarily drilling using the Fool Proof Method.

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--

I took the one less traveled by,

And that has made all the difference.

I just reread this poem after I wonder why I chose law school. I remember last year my mom and uncle said law school does not fit me since it is too hard. They said I should just choose an easy major and get an easy job. However, I know that an easy job can't win me a green card and there is no shortcut to success. Today, after I read this poem, I realize that I choose a path that lots of international students do not choose. That makes all the difference. What do you guys think of this poem? Besides the LSAT, we can still have some discussions for fun to avoid burn-out. :)

So based on GREAT advice from people who've posted on here here (@pacifico, @nicole.hopkins etc), I've decided that I will definitely take advantage of taking the test in December. I plan on studying as if I'm taking it in Oct.

However, should I cancel my current spot to take it in Oct and get my $$$ back since I'll be taking it in December anyways?

You know that whole piece of advice to skip those turdy substitution questions?

Well. Look. I just did that in a section. Saw it, said NO THANKS, boxed it, moved on, didn't care. Had a tish of extra time, came back to it, still didn't care, eliminated some AC's, pulled the trigger. Nothing to lose, possible 1 point to gain.

-0. That would NOT have happened if I had wasted time on this Q, friends. Was tighter on time in this section than I'd like to be; if I'd wasted the likely 2min+ had I gotten sucked into that vortex, I wouldn't have gotten to one or two questions at the end due to the confidence sink these substitution questions often entail, time sink aside.

Just an example of how following one little bitty piece of 7sage wisdom can result in a real difference of a couple of points.

So, in summary ...

PS: It was thanks to @Pacifico who recently was advocating for this on the BR calls. This is why we listen to Pacifico.

Hi All,

I did the whole community college thing for two years before transferring to uni (hey it was 100% FREE & I racked up a bunch of free $ w/ transfer scholarships). Am I "lying" if I don't include the information on my resume? I don't think that LSAC even has room on the app portion for a college before a bachelor's. I've since removed the degree from my professional resume because it doesn't really matter since I now have a professional degree (but will always be in my heart....awwww).

Thanks

Hey, I have LSAT Ultimate. Are some of the lessons locked for you guys? I thought this course path included everything.

This is my final post. Best of luck everyone with your dreams.

I have been kind of looking around posts with advice on what to do, how to do it, and in what time range, and I see a lot of "don't do this," "no, you can't do that," or my favorite, "it take more than x amount of time." I feel as if some people take that as a predictor of what is going to happen. I want to clarify something for everyone who misunderstands posts of guidance, ONLY YOU CAN DETERMINE ANYTHING, whether it be it length of time, what your approach should be, how to do something, or anything that pertains to, not just this test, but anything. Let me clarify a bit. I am not saying do not listen to ANY of the advice, what I am saying is take everyone's advice with a grain of salt, and rely on yourself, and be confident in yourself no matter what it is that you do. I read something on another site, and someone was asking if they could reach 170 in 4 months with a 150 diagnostic, and a few people outright said it was near impossible. Nothing is impossible if you work hard, only failures, and people who lack self-confidence think anything is impossible. Just work hard, trust yourself, and don't sell yourself short.

Looking back at my journey in studying for this pet peeve called the LSAT, I feel as though the prep course I took gypped me of my money (actually, my mom's money because she wanted to help me pay for the course)! I want a refund (too late now, of course)! Wow, I've purchased one too many LSAT study guides that have taught me completely nothing (except for the LSAT Trainer). All I have to say is, 7Sage you're a godsend! I am only on my third week of the course, but I can definitely say I feel more confident in being able to conquer the LSAT because of 7Sage. Thanks for reading! Back to the grind!

Hi all,

Is there anyone who prepared/is preparing for a retake and has encountered a problem where you use same PTs and feel familiarized with some problems? Or feeling subconsciously comfortable with the fact that they are problems that you have done already?

With this trouble for myself, I realized that I felt definitely baffled when taking a new, fresh PT after retaking those PTs I have done already.

Is there any advice you could please give? Thank you so much guys!

Hey, is it possible for me to purchase just one part of the syllabus? I've already studied Reading Comprehension and Logic Reasoning and I'm perfect with those sections, I just want to buy the section for the Logic games explanations (not the test explanations, which are already free), but the actual explanations on the concepts.

Does it make sense to delay going to law school by a whole year only on the basis of wanting more time to raise your LSAT score? I only ask because it seems as though there are a lot of things in life that we wish we could have more time to prepare for but it's not always necessarily wise to take that time off. In theory having an extra year to study would mean I would definitely get into a better law school than if I simply took the Oct or Dec test, but if my only reason is because of a single exam then I'm not so sure I'd be justified.

I was PTing in the 157-161 range for 2 weeks. Today, i took PT 54 and scored 167.

I am not complaining... but I am confused.

I did everything the same as I always do. Maybe it was a fluke? I will have to take a couple more PTs to see, I guess.

Is it normal to see a 10 point jump like this? Has this happened to anyone else?

Hello fellow 7sagers!

I have started preparing for the October LSAT since the end of April. I have bought into numerous kinds of books such as Kaplan, Princeton Review and Barron's. I worked on studying the strategies and the fundamentals until about June and then I did a timed PT. I scored 150 on it. I thought this wasn't too bad considering my first try. However, I figured out soon that I wasn't making the most efficient practice of the questions because I did another 2 timed PT's and my score worsened each time by about 1 point.

I enrolled in the premium package about a month ago (roughly- give or take a few days). I have been plowing through the lessons since then and I am about 90% through the 128h material. I have been following every instruction JY and his team has been putting out in the lessons. I practice about 6-7 hours a day 6 days a week. I can say that I am definitely seeing improvements because, unlike before with the other prep material, now I actually have learned the fundamental lessons and I know exactly why an answer is right and why the others are wrong. Now it is really just down to practice practice practice. With just under 2 months left, I am about to start again into timed PTs this week. I am hoping with all the knowledge I have gained through 7sage, my score will improve. I do feel however that I have wasted some of my time by practicing with the other prep material that hasn't been so useful. I am hoping that I will be prepared enough to write a score in the low to mid 160s in October. Of course, there is still December if need be to re-write. I am located in Canada, roughly near the Michigan-Canada border. My goal is to attend a U.S. law school. As far as academic credentials go, I hold B.A. in Criminology and an M.A. in Criminology (with thesis research) from the same institution, as well as two forthcoming publications in academic journals. Both degrees with 3.90+ GPAs.

I would just like to see where others are and what their situation in. This is mine at the moment and if anyone has advice out there or suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it!