It has recently come to my attention that a visit to a psychiatrist may be necessary for me - I've been hearing J.Y. Ping's voices when doing LG sections.

"Apply the con-tra-PA-si-tive".

"What IN-fe-rences can we make?"

"Negate sufficient, fulfill necessary, the rule just goes away!"

"You have to take stock which rules are left..you can't freeze.."

When I was working on some logic games with my friends, I voiced out my thought process along the way, and they told me I sounded like J.Y. Ping (the little mannerisms). Oh I wish I was as good as him, but upon watching countless hours of his videos, Mr. Ping's voice took over me. And the more I try to get rid of it, it just keeps on coming back.

Anyone has similar experience? I'm sure I'm not alone.

If you have received a 100% (or very nearly 100%) correct in RC, then I am seeking your help!

What is your approach for 'marking' the passage? Any underlining? Boxing? Comments?

Have you developed any useful habits?

What do you believe led to your success in this section?

Background: I recently noticed that I have never received 100% in RC. I hadn't even realized I was always dropping at least 1 Q! I keep switching my approach -- sometimes marking & sometimes not.

Please let me know your (7)sage wisdom. Thank you!

Now that we are (December test takers) getting closer to the test day, I'm wondering where one should be today in terms of understanding the material/fundamentals (how to set up games, knowing LR questions types, Not losing focus on the RC), Reading the passage on time, getting through a whole section of LR or RC or Games to be scoring in mid-high 60's 7 weeks away from now and How should one's schedule look like to achieve that ?

Okay. Last week I had a major mental break down and I had to stop writing Prep Test 39... you probably remember me.... bahaha I post A LOT.

So here I go. I'm writing prep test 40.

I can do this!!!!! I won't get down on myself!!!!

:) Good luck to all you 7Sagers today with your prepping!! Positive vibes <3

Does anyone know if PT 72 and 73 will be included if we upgrade to the ultimate version of the account next month?

I want to thank everyone at 7Sage and especially JY for being here when I found you and believing in me by responding to my questions and then by teaching me an incredible amount in a short time. I had been studying for a year but not able to figure out Logic Games....scores would not be higher than 154...then after a few lessons with you I improved to 163 and I just got my first 167 today. I have a feel for Logical Reasoning now, I did not think possible as well as am improving a lot on Logic Games. I'm far from done but wanted to let you guys know that you are the best and you mean the world to me...I never thought I could reach 25th percentile for my dream school and now I'm there! I'm on my way to make 170 plus a possibility and all because of you. If I get into Stanford, you will be to blame ;-) YOU all ROCK! Miriam

So after about 5 months of studying w 7sage my LG is by far my worst section. I range anywhere from 50-75%. Sequencing Games/Dual Layered Seq Games are my weakness. I work on Logic Games extensively printing the games out 10x each and perfecting them. Once i have "perfected them" i leave them alone for a few days/weeks and go back to them periodically and can still finish them pretty quickly. Yet when I am testing, its as if Ive never seen a LG in my life and i freeze or go way too slow. I don't know what to do about Games, any pointers? tips? suggestions?

Is anyone else having similar problems?

How are you preparing yourself to be mentally strong enough to open that email? I've been working out pretty hard, dieting, and meditating. I'm not sure how that relates to the LSAT, but it's been keeping me calm. The scores could come any day now, but my guess is on Sunday. Most places I've looked at say they're probably getting released Monday. Are you ready? Next week could be anything from going ahead and finishing up an application to send it in a week or two to getting back in the lab and writing practice tests again.

2014 LAW SCHOOL RECRUITMENT FORUMS

Has anyone been to a law school forum/workshop with LSAC? They have one in Houston but I live in austin.

Several universities will attend and setup booths. An admission representative will be there to answer any questions you may have and you also receive a $50 application waiver. I really want to get accepted into UT and they will be there. But i remember doing this years ago and it was pointless. And I don't know anyone else that's going :(

i dk, Is it worth the commute/time?

PM me if you're looking to sell yours!

I need a study partner. Someone that I can help and help me as well. If your interested please let me know ASAP!

okay. I posted yesterday. I had a huge meltdown mid-Prep test 39, stopped the test, cried for a bit, went out and bought a ridiculously expensive car starter, came home and napped, tackled a few questions, and gave up.

Today. I wrote a prep-test and only scored 1 mark higher than previous scores.

To say the least, I had another mini-meltdown. I'm not sure if any of you have gone through this and, if you have, then you know how hard it is to just be OK and move on from it. And it seems that every single piece of advise people try to tell me, I just want to punch them. I just feel like people who aren't studying for the LSAT don't understand.

Anyways. So. I gave up (again) tonight. Had a mini melt down, cried, and then. I just cleaned everything. Cleaned the room I studied in, cleaned my bedroom, cleaned my closet, cleaned my car - everything. Because tomorrow is not today. And tomorrow is not yesterday. And I refuse to let tomorrow be like today or be like yesterday.

So I am mostly writing this, so that you 7Sagers can keep me in perspective.

The test is just a test.

If I do not pass it in December, I can try again.

A year will not have been wasted.

The test is just a test.

And it certainly shouldn't be done at the expense of my mental health/happiness.

So. Tomorrow is a new day. And everything from here on out may not be easy, but I will not give up. :)

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-39-section-2-question-07/

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-39-section-2-question-08/

Logical Reasoning, Section 2, Question 7 & 8.

I'm trying to solidify my understanding of NA... I don't understand it. I can read it 100 times, but when I'm given a question on the LSAT, I still don't get it. So, i've been trying to identify NA when I see it in other questions.

7. Conclusion: a person prevented from sleep by thoughts should count sheep

Why? Because sheep occupy both sides of the brain.

Is the necessary assumption here... the answer to question 7? That the thoughts of sheep would not keep the person awake?

Because... if that were true. If counting sheep DID keep the person awake, then it would ruin our argument.

Am I right?!

I've taken the LSAT twice: December 2013 and September 2014 (cancelled). Both were taken at the same test center by my grandparents (I live in NYC but usually I go up and visit them and it's easier/less hectic of a commute on test day). The first time, I did fine. In September, I totally lost it. The chairs were making terrible noises, and one of the proctors was clearly ill with bronchitis and was coughing and also talking to a proctor-in-training during the test. I should have been able to block these things out the second time and I didn't.

So for test 3, the question is, to I take at the same place? I can't tell if I'd be better off in a new place, or return to the same place. The upside is I would know the territory, and anticipate possible distractions. But part of me thinks I should try another center to get away from my September debacle. Anyone faced this issue before? Would love thoughts on this. Thanks guys!

So I have no problem with speed....Trust me, I can read the passages in 2 minutes or less....but in one sense I do have a problem with speed, because if I read any faster than 4 minutes then I sacrifice accuracy on the questions...I could get away with reading the passages in 3 or less minutes on the older RC's, but there are a lot harder inference, definition, and analogy questions on the newer RC's that if I don't read closely enough I miss all of them..but obviously I want to comprehend what I am reading even faster...

I have tried spreeder before....honestly, it doesn't work for me. Simply reading words faster doesn't mean I comprehend the passage on the certain level which is required for the newer RC's faster...If I only read for "structure" I miss the main point, or I don't make a key inference which is based upon some sort of detail I might skip over when reading for "structure"...To do all the "push back" I need to do to connect passages and draw out key inferences requires that I comprehend faster...not just read faster

Anyone else have the same problem?

I'm not sure if my question has been addressed, if so, could someone send me to the proper discussion. My question is for those who are shooting for 170+. Would it be more beneficial to focus on knowing how to answer each question type or should I focus on mastering all the "Lawgic" and being able to go back and forth between the language. I feel being able to handle lawgic sufficiently will help take the burden off having to know a certain way to answer each question because you will be able to answer the question intuitively. Is that a good thought or am I way off base? Thank you for any help I get ahead of time.

-Brian

My name is Michelle. I have been preparing LSAT for more than a year. I took a TestMasters and 7 Sage prep courses; also covered several materials including LSAT Trainer, Bibles, Manhattan Strategies Books and Multiple PTs. I have developed several strategies and would like to share with yours.

I made a decision to take a leave from work in order to completely focus on studying – this shows how much I am serious and determined. I am looking for someone who can share this motivation and be a supporter and a couch for each other. I’ve studied with few other people and found it very effective to analyze questions together and talk it out and explain to each other; way more than just listening to the lecture. I would also like to take the entire PT together under strict time limit.

My Skype ID is michellemoon0708. I am down to talk any time. I am willing to work on any time frame/schedule. Please contact me at michellemoon0708 at gmail dot com. Looking forward to hearing from you!

Michelle

I plan to register for Dec test. I was curious if anyone has insight on the test centers in the Miami/Fort Lauderdale area. For example: Do you know of a test center with larger desk and more comfortable seating?

anyone else getting this issue? It is just reversing what is on the flash card, and not providing an answer

Hello everyone. I know people have questions and concerns about the personal statement. Well how did everyone format there's?

Well.

Just tried to write Prep Test 39. Had a mental breakdown through the first section, started crying, and gave up altogether.

Does this happen to anyone? Do I just take a break?

I started studying for the LSAT over a ago now when I was a junior in college. I was super stressed and determined not to take a year off so I wanted to take the June 2013 LSAT. Being a stressed out freak, I thought the best thing to do was to do a bunch of PTs (which I still will do only this time with more focus on reviewing after the test). I blew through a bunch of PTs that I can't even remember now which ones they were. I honestly don't remember hardly anything from the tests--in doing the syllabus I've recognized some of the content in a few questions I've done but it doesn't seem to have any effect on my answer choice and I definitely haven't had any instances where I've recognized a question and immediately remembered the correct answer. Do you think I could still be influenced by some of the tests I've already taken? Thanks for the comments.

Hello everyone :)

I have a friend who is also studying for her LSAT, and while I am taking this online course, she is taking a course taught by a professor. Her professor said that the LSAT has changed over the course of the years - that it has increased in difficulty for the logical reasoning sections and decreased in difficulty for the logic games. Assuming this is true, are the practice tests offered in this course rendered... Less accurate somehow? I understand they offer the baseline understanding of how to approach problems and solve them, but if the logical reasoning sections I have been practicing with are somehow easier than more recent sections, does this mean that my scores on here will be a bit skewed?

All in all it was a disheartening conversation haha, and I'm inclined to not take everything her professor has said at face-value, but since then I've been chewing on this problem. Should I perhaps be mixing in more recent practice tests with the ones offered here for a more accurate estimate? Have any of you heard the same thing, or am I just late to the party?

I'm debating whether to take a volunteer opportunity. Can you weigh and and tell me your thoughts after reviewing these pros and cons?

Pros:

Great Clinic

Director has ties to some of the top schools I'm applying to

Interesting work

Cons:

Limited time - Finished with LSAT but still finishing essay and depending on score may retake lsat

Interested in the focus of clinic but not my primary interest (my PS slightly involves a different area of law)

Commute is a hassle

Could spend more time on my other softs (already have previous law related experience)

BTW don't let quantity of cons to pros throw you off. Some of the pros are pretty heavy.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Hi,

My name is Mark. I am currently preparing for the December 2014 LSAT. I took a Blueprint course over summer in my initial preparations for the September LSAT, but decided to postpone my test date because I was not scoring at a range that I felt happy with. My current scaled score average is 160 +/- 2. My highest score is a 162 and I usually average 158-160 per prep test. My goal though is to be scoring in the 170+ range by the time December rolls around.

My biggest problem is timing as opposed to conceptual understanding. I am almost perfect with games and am currently working on 7sage's method to perfect games within the time constraints. When it comes to Logical Reasoning, I am very good with implication questions (must be true/must be false/could be true/could be false, etc) and relatively good with everything else. The only area I struggle with sometimes is making the necessary anticipations/inferences before even looking at the questions as well as doing so within the given time constraints. And then there is reading comp, which I pretty much blow at and is most likely the only thing stopping me from scoring at a 165 average. That being said, I know what my problem is with it and I have been actively working to solve it over the past few weeks.

Anyways, I am looking for someone that will push me towards that 170 while I simultaneously push them towards 170. Online is ideal because I prefer to work alone, but if you live in the Los Angeles area, I'm down to meet up and take practice tests together, etc. I have a wealth of resources when it comes to prep materials etc and am more than down to share, etc.

Please send me an email at markushageylikman@gmail.com if you are serious about scoring high on the December LSAT and are willing to put in the hours that are required to achieve such a score.

Best Regards,

Mark