Is section 3 of PT 72 unusually hard? I've been told that PT 72 is weird and I shouldn't be discouraged by lower scores on this test than the others. I'm working on LR and did fairly well on the first LR section of this PT but I did horribly on section 3. What are your experiences with this PT?

Hello. In reaction to Prep Test 72 Game 4 pimp slapping me, I wanted to start a topic regarding unusual game types historically that may be of some benefit to review for Monday. Add to my list if you can think of any I haven't mentioned so I can go review them.

Multi-layer/Pattern Sequencing - NOPST clans, RSTVY giving speeches first, JKLM exchanging work pieces

Circular Area Games - Planes flying over Zendu, Hospitals and Jails in certain areas

Other/Matching - Subway lines 1-6 connecting Green, Park, Urstine, Zephyr Airlines, Translators speaking Yoruba and Swahili

Crazy Hard Normal Game Types - Toy Dinosaurs, Snakes/Lizards, Jasmine/Vijay/others getting off the bus

will post more up if/when I think of them

Hey 7Sagers,

Someone sent this question to me and I thought you could help out! Here's the question:

If you don't mind, I wanted to get some real advice from you regarding my LSAT scores and law schools.

My first LSAT score was 160 (June 2014), and the second time I received 155 (December 2014). I applied to law schools afterwards, and got accepted to University of Illinois, and waitlisted on UC Irvine. I already signed up to attend the University of Illinois Law, but I am still hesitant mainly because I want to clerk for Supreme Court or get into a big law firm upon graduation, but I am afraid that the University of Illinois Law would not provide me with those opportunities due to its low school ranking (#41). Since my LSAT score went down the second round, I think I am afraid to take another LSAT to see my chances with higher ranked law schools next year, but if I could raise the score, I would like to take once more.

In my situation, what advice would you give?

If you think you've found the right answer choice, do you feel it is still wise to read through the other answer choices carefully? And how much time would you spend reading through those other answer choices? This is assuming a real-life testing scenario.

Good morning, all-

I saw someone mention somewhere on the forum (can't seem to find it now) about unusual games making a reappearance and I'm trying to make sure I've been exposed to everything. You'll have to excuse my ignorance, when you all say "subzones," does that mean PT67, Game 4 specifically or what JY would call subcategories? I looked it up and saw that PT67 mentioned subzones specifically so I took and BR'd that one.

Other "weird" games I can think of off hand are circular, mapping (like the Zephyr airline one, right?) and pattern games. Are there any other weird types that I'm missing?

Hope everyone's studying is going well!

Hi All,

Sorry if this has been discussed already, I'm new to these boards.

I'm making a study schedule leading up to the October LSAT, and I know it is recommended to start from PT 35 and up. Should I start with the earliest ones and finish off with PT 50+ or start with PT 50+ and go to up to most recent PT's of 70+?

I might also take the December exam, so also keeping that in mind - I'm wondering if it is best to go in chronological order or just skip to the most recent preptests?

Thanks 7Sagers!

Hello.

So I am not sure where to put my question, so I will just write it here. I apologies if it is redundant, but I cannot find an answer yet. I have taken a prep course with Test Masters, and even though I improved from my original score and did learn something I am still not happy with my mid 150. My problem is that I did a lot of PTs, all of them starting from 2007. Some I did almost a year ago, but some were just recent. Of course there was no BR, so it was pretty much a waste of time. I am going to do all of the theory here again, since it seems that I have some fundamental misunderstandings there, but what should I do about PT practice? Should I take the tests I have already done again? How good would that be for me? Should I take the older ones? It seems that we'll do a lot of questions from those during the initial theory course. Any help or advice will help. Thanks.

I thought this would be a cool way to outline our priorities and maybe exchange ideas on what to review/go over :D!

-Last Week of LSAT Prep-

-As Much as possible of LG Bundle (2nd Time Around)

-Go Over PTs (Late 60s/Early 70s ESPECIALLY PT 74)

-PT 72/73 (After Reading Jon's Post I've decided I'll take one of these on Tuesday) BR and review should be good enough!

-Cambridge RC Packets

-Review 7Sage Lessons (LG/LR) -- LSAT Trainer Lessons (RC/LR)

-Sleep/Eat (I Sort of forget to do these 2 things, hehe)

Happy Posting :D!

Before I forget, I want to make a point of thanking JY for his generous efforts of posting all those logic game videos to Youtube for anyone to see. This has been the main reason my LG score improved from like -15 to almost perfect every time.

Unlike written self-study material, I can play this guy in the car, at the gym, at work (sometimes), etc. and get a lot more studying done than I would have if those videos weren't available.

I previously used Powerscore Logic Games Bible, and was doing OK on that, but when I found these videos was when it all really started clicking because I could hear someone else talking about it and explaining it.

Thanks man!

Hi! I'm taking the June LSAT next Monday, and was looking for a little advice. I know the Logic Games section is the most feasible section to get 100% of the questions correct. However, every time I take a prep test, my LG section always comes up a little short. I usually miss 3-5 questions, mostly because I don't have time to complete the last game. Any advice on how to improve before Monday, even just a little bit to get those points I'm missing? Thanks!

Hey everyone, hope everyone is studying hard!

I saw a recent post here about the LSAT 180 Watch, can't seem to find it anymore so I'm thinking it was maybe against the TOS, not sure.

Anyway I'm wondering what everyone uses to keep track of time, I'm just using an online stop watch for now, but when I get closer to taking real PTs I'm probably investing in a cheap analog watch, so if anyone had any suggestions please leave them below!

Everyone,

I've practiced every part of the test but the one section that fails to improve is RC. As a result, it prevents me frm getting the scores I want. I've tried annotating, using the memorization method, doing 3 sections for accuracy, but nothing seems to help it improve. I'm currently seeing 14-17 correct in that section. Pretty far off from the rest of my test. Does anyone have any suggestions or did they start doing something that just made it click for them? I've also been working through the Manhattan RC book but I'm not seeing any improvements as a result. I'm willing to put any amount of effort or time in to achieve it.

Thank you.

So I just completed the course and took my first time LSAT, PT36. It had four multiple choice sections and then the written. So, basically, no experimental section. Is that just luck of the draw or do certain years not have the experimental sections? Also, is the same test given during all four times of the year or is there the chance that the Feb 2015 had an experimental section and the October or December will not? Thanks ;)

Am really excited!

I am sorry about asking such a silly question, but for those of you who already took the real LSAT before, could you guys please tell me if the paper LSAT used was similar to the one that we normally use for printing at home/work or the one that is like recycled paper and somewhat gray-ish color?

Hello friends!

I'm planning to start studying for my LSATs around mid to end of June for the October lsat. Is anyone in the area that's down to be study buddies? Message me if so and let's get the motivation rolling! :)

Hi Guys

During the 15 minutes recess after first three sections, what do you guys usually do? Listening to cheerful music like Rocky's theme song is usually what I do. Do we need to relax during this 15 minutes or make us more excited facing the rest of sections?

Hi Everyone

In the beginning of doing prep test, my highest actual score is 152 with highest blind review score 162 after 7 prep tests. I figured something went wrong and I stopped doing prep-test and focused on drilling cambridge RC, LR section. I just restarted prep test this week. I got 155 in prep test 47 with BR score 167, and I got another 155 with BR score 173 in prep test 64. Does the difference between BR score and actual score signify how much I can improve?

Another thing is when I do LR sections, I always have second thoughts. Something like "oh man, why do I get stuck even before question 10, this should be easy" and I vacillate between 2 or 3 answer choices a lot, which wasted me lots of time. When I BR these questions, I usually found I chose right answer or I got it after several thoughts. It happened to me in the RC as well since I want to get all of questions right in the first passage which is supposed to be easier than other passages. I normally get above 20+ questions right in LG. Did what I said ever occur to you guys? How did you guys overcome this barrier? Thank you so much 7sagers!

Hello, my fellow 7sagers! These days I have been working on my lg bundle and realized that it takes much more time than I expected! I initially thought that it would take about 2-3 weeks to finish it according to the previous study schedule suggested by this site. But now I feel like it would take much more than that to finish the lg bundle if I properly follow the fool-proof method suggested by JYP :((

Is this normal or should I worry? I would really appreciate it if you guys share your lg bundle stories with me!

Thanks in advance :))

I have a couple of questions regarding how LSAC calculates our GPAs.

1st: Will they take any addendum into consideration or is that reserved solely for law school admissions?

2nd: What do the three passing, four passing and 5 point fields mean on the 7sage calculator? Are they credit hours?

Thanks and my average of my first 3 PTs after the course is 164 from a 152 diagnostic! Encouragement---go go go!!!

How did/do you guys determine where you will apply for law schools? This is mainly a question of curiosity.

Hello! I thought I would ask the 7sage community for some advice regarding my recent PT performance.

I had previously been PTing consistently in the high 160s to low 170s, but recently my last three PTs have been 166, 168, and 164. Am I taking too many PTs? I was wondering what course of action I should take:

A: Continue to take practice tests and drill like mad to take the June test

B: Do only light studying and take the June test

C: Pay to push my test date to October

Thanks so much for your input! If there's anything you can suggest that I didn't think of, please let me know.

Hey guys. During timed prep tests, I take a long time to answer PR and PF questions and I only get them right 20% - 40% of the time. Even with this issue, I score pretty consistently in the low 160's. I am considering skipping these questions altogether by guessing after a 30 second preliminary P.O.E. for questions of these sorts. Actually trying hasn't worked much better for me from a percentage standpoint and I think it would probably save me 3-4 minutes over the course of each LR section. Any recommendations?

Hey guys. During timed prep tests, I take a long time to answer Parallel Reasoning and Parallel Flaw questions and I only get them right 20% - 40% of the time. Even with this issue, I score pretty consistently in the low 160's. I am considering skipping these questions altogether by guessing after a 30 second preliminary P.O.E. for questions of these sorts. Actually trying hasn't worked much better for me from a percentage standpoint and I think it would probably save me 3-4 minutes over the course of each LR section. Any recommendations? Does anyone else skip problems under timed conditions?

I took a well known in person course for my June LSAT prep and it appears that from my original practice testing scores, I have had a serious regression on all of the categories. Is this common? It just seems like with all that I knew (didn't know) has been trashed and I'm more confused now than when I started. I'm feeling bummed out.