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Here are some thoughts from the LSAC Forum in NYC. Of course, this is all my own opinion based on today's experience and should not necessarily be taken as the word of God! No, I'm not that haughty...

First, the workshops were not that illuminating, at least for me. Perhaps if you're entirely unfamiliar with the process, there would be some benefit, but for most students, you'd use your time more effectively by chatting with the admissions officers.

Second, business casual is fine. For some reason, I was a bit apprehensive about not wearing a suit, even though I had seen posts saying that business casual was appropriate. However, although most of the admissions officers wore more formal clothes, a majority of the students wore business casual attire.

Third, bring a briefcase or bag with you. I cannot stress how important this is for you! Every school will give you an equivalent of a couple of trees worth of flyers and glossy magazines titled "101 reasons to come to UMichigan!" If you plan on taking them with you, bringing a sturdy bag or briefcase is vital. LSAC did provide the classic tote bag, however. So that will probably be enough for most people's needs.

Fourth, try to give a face to the name. In my estimation, the Forum can be used most effectively by building rapport with the reps in addition to asking specific questions. Use some humor particular self-deprecating. You want to move past the mechanistic speech each one of them have stored in their heads. One person whom I spoke to sounded like a robot mechanically answering questions with little thought or personality. Obviously, don't go overboard or try to be something that you aren't, but leaving an impression (even just that you're personable) seems important. I think thanking for coming to the forum and chatting with you is a great way to leave an impression. I asked the Yale Law admissions officer--with whom I spoke with for a while--for a selfie, and he happily acquiesced!! Don't be shy. Most of them were quite personable. Remember, they'll have all your stats when you apply, but they won't know you. Building rapport at the Forum can make your application stand out.

Fifth, comfort the 2/3 of law schools no one is interested in. The contrast was stark. It was like a speed dating event in which only one-third of the people aroused interest. I felt so sorry for the South Dakota Law School. I mean no one came over to them. So, do your good deed for the day and make them feel desired!

I've come across many posts by @akistotle they refer to as their "Cookie Cutter Reviews". These posts are super helpful and I'd like to read more of them. However, I can't figure out a way to effectively locate more of these specific posts. I initially found them in a comment under a video explanation, so searching the discussion forum obviously wouldn't locate. Would appreciate #help with this!

Link to example of cookie cutter review comment: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-55-section-3-question-22/

Are they better to send sooner or later? I plan on applying for fall 2021, and I am about half way thru my graduate program. I have a 3.94 GPA. I know graduate transcripts aren't really weighed much but would rather have them see this number than a lower one.

Suggestions??

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    I'm going through the "Skill Builder - Group 2 Translations" unit of the Conditional and Set Logic section in the Core Curriculum and I'm having some trouble understanding why contrapositives were not used for questions 7.1-7.5. Was looking through the forums and comments under that unit and couldn't find much that explained why contrapositives weren't being used here. I did, however, see a comment that mentioned contrapositives not being used because the conditional language was used to express a potential causal relationship (more than a sufficient-necessary relationship). However, it still seems that those statements are conditional with comparative and causal elements (at least based on the explanations provided for those statements and how I and others interpreted them).

    So would statements indicating there being causal and/or comparative elements not require contrapositives, especially if the statements can also be translated into lawgic and indicate there being a sufficient/necessary relationship??

    My apologies in advanced if this type of question is meant to go under that unit and not in the discussion forum. It's just that there wasn't much of a response (if any) from the tutors about this.

    Hi everyone, quick question on which is the more accurate or more correct score to rely on after taking a Prep Test, specifically on 7Sage. I've been noticing that they give different numbers. For example, I recently took PT 80 and got -8 (93/101) for a score of 172. However, looking at the 7Sage Score Conversion Chart (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-score-percentile-conversion/), a -8 on PT 80 is a 170. According to the chart, a 172 would mean that I got -6.

    Can anyone help explain this difference?

    Thanks!

    Hey y'all,

    I started taking practice tests about 2-3 weeks ago. For practically all my tests outside of my diagnostic, I've been scoring between 165-168. I spoke with a few of my friends that either attend law school or are working in the field already, and identified a few aspects that I thought would help me score higher, and possibly break the 170 barrier.

    With newfound knowledge in mind, I took a test yesterday, and to my surprise, I scored 174! I'm almost certain this is a fluke, though. I don't think one can achieve a 6 point jump and maintain it consistently.

    Including my diagnostic, I've only taken 10 tests though, so my sample size is small. Because of that, I don't feel confident I'll know my actual scoring range until I have several more tests under my belt.

    My question: For those of you who aimed at and broke past a certain score threshold after plateauing, did you find your scores tend to stay past that threshold? Alternatively, did you find your performance was a fluke and your average scores surpass that goal some time after that first time breaking the threshold?

    I'm most definitely not planning on using my most recent score as an excuse to slow things down, but I also want to know how other people in the community "knew" they had gotten over their humps.

    Looking a study buddy in the Indy area, but am open to studying with others via Skype. I am pretty dedicated and looking for person with whom I and he/she can keep each other focused when we get antsy and want to go do other things. Also bounce ideas and problems off each other. if anyones interested let me know!

    Best,

    Jake

    TLDR: Stuck in 155 rut for months, despite 171 BR, want to break into 160s, wondering whether something fundamental is missing or its just be like that. Highly appreciate any insight!

    Study Time so far:

    Studied full time mid July to start of September 2023, took 2 PTs got 142, 145, was using 2015 Kaplan book, good foundation for logic but meh strategies

    September-October: Break

    November 2023-Mid January 2024: studied full time with 7sage Tutor and Live classes, PTing 153-157, BR 161-167. Took Jan LSAT, got 150, # of practice hours hit 300 a few days before. Improvement from diagnostic which is nice, and even now feel like I've learned so much.

    February to now (May): Studying part-time (9-15 hrs a week, 450 study hours so far) while working, still PTing 155 but doing August 2024 format and went from BR 165 a month ago to now BR 171, so understanding has been improving at least. Sometimes skim LSAT Trainer for exercises and tips, and focused heavily on 7sage curriculum, found Phenomenon-Hypothesis strategies extremely useful. Worse questions usually are Flaw and RC Sci/Law passages with ambiguous author opinion.

    Currently focusing on perfecting LR 10 in 10 drills for a section's first 10 questions, and can get 80-90% right, but realistically need 100%. Working on paraphrasing questions, and being efficient and accurate for easy to medium questions, especially for flaw Qs, as I stand to gain the most points there. I also think practicing staying as calm as possible during sections is starting to help, because I tend to make mistakes on questions I find really easy without the time pressure, and rush in general.

    Consistently 8-10 wrong on LR, but 7-12 on RC. Have got only 2 wrong on RC or LR sometimes but each on different PTs, would love to get both at once lol.

    Considering everything, with a BR 171 and a 155 actual, it seems there's potentially huge room to improve timed, and I appreciate the skills I'm learning through the LSAT, but its still somewhat demotivating being stuck in the mid-150s since November, especially with an improving understanding through BR. Granted, studying has been part-time and LR/RC is slower to improve than LG, so who knows. Unsure what to do, as I consistently BR, journal in-depth about right/wrong answers, ways to improve, what I misunderstood. I try to only do a PT when I feel I've worked on a large number of drills for problem areas. Want to say its the time pressure stress, but still get cooked on harder LR sections even when super calm and highly accurate with the easier questions, but we'll see. Have considered more tutoring/live classes.

    Highly value anyone's thoughts!

    Thanks for reading!

    I'm a bit confused of the way the 7Sage study schedule is laid out. I'm planning to take the test in October and in the custom Study Schedule 7Sage created, there is no time dedicated to drills in any of the weeks and all the practice tests are bunched up in one week (Week 10 in September).

    Does anyone have a recommended study schedule to use integrating drills and practice tests throughout the process? I want to make sure I'm actually drilling questions and taking practice tests ahead of my test date to work on areas I need to improve on.

    Thanks!

    I really need help with my personal statement. I applied for law schools for this cycle and obviously didn't make it. I know my LSAT was the main contributor, but I feel like my personal statement wasn't what it needed to be. Does anyone know where I can get help?

    Hello,

    I made a final push for June of 2024 (trying to maximize LG's) with the hope of hitting 170. I fell about five points short of that goal and am feeling a bit stuck. On the one hand, I was making substantial improvement with LR/RC. However, I feel that the uphill battle to claw towards the 170 with just RC/LR will be a challenge. I've PT'd in the past in the 170s (with LGs) and have seen RC/LR scores that indicate that I'm capable of getting close to that margin. I was wondering if anyone was feeling the same way and was wondering how to approach the post-June LSAT if you're in a similar predicament. I've put a lot of time and effort towards getting a 170 and hate to fall five (albeit a big five) points short. Was hoping to see if anyone had any advice or input in a similar situation. Thanks.

    I've started with Mike Kim's Trainer and got through about 1/3 of the book (skipping LG for the new format). My diagnostic PT was a 160, which is a decent start, but now I'm wondering if I should switch to 7sage's core curriculum and finish that as soon as possible. Given where I'm at and the remaining time I'm at, how should I prioritize the CC, the trainer, and PTs?

    For example, should I do 1 PT per week along with the CC and drop the trainer entirely? Or should I finish the CC entirely first then start doing PTs?

    Thanks!

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