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I hope I'm not the only one who has had this issue. I just started my LSAT journey and I find that, often, when I get an MSS question wrong it is because I misread one or two words in an answer choice and therefore misinterpreted that answer choice.

Does anyone have any tips to avoid this in MSS questions and in the future on the LSAT? Slowing down and reading carefully seems like an obvious solution, except we are timed and I don't want to waste time triple-checking myself either.

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I've taken 2 preptests and have improved from a 140 to a 149. I feel proud of that for sure. But, I got RC-18, LG-8, LR-10.

I know the RC is the hardest to improve on, but do I have a shot of getting it to the level of the others by the August 2023Test?

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    Hi all,

    I've been using the ProctorU "Test My Equipment" ahead of test day and it keeps telling me my RAM usage is over 95%. I have closed all other applications and google chrome tabs (plus this is a relatively new computer so there is not a lot taking up storage)--not sure what else I can try?! Anyone know how to resolve this issue?

    Appreciate any tips people have, thanks!!

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    Hi I need some advice. I’ve been studying the lsat almost full time since January of this year. I’m shooting for a 170 plus but ever since I’ve been more strict on time for Rc and lr, I sometimes ended up getting -10on rc sometimes. Normally i would average around -4/5 but the trickier qs and denser passages in more recent pts rlly have been hurting me. For lr also, i would avg -2/3 but on some of the ones i. The 70-80 range i got -4/5 per section. My LG is normally perfect but because of my fluctuating rc score I score sometimes in the low 60 and occasionally in the low 70s(mostly high 60s). Im debating whether I should try taking it this week officially for the first time or if I should spend more time with rc and get more consistent and better at lr and shoot for august or September…Some say take it for the experience but based on my rc level I think the best I could do is maybe a 168-170? Best case scenario? Should I give it a shot or postpone it and take it when I consistently pt in the 170 range?

    Thanks!

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    [I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

    What is an example of a circular reasoning argument? Additionally, I typically have started approaching AC's with the mentality of what works best for the stimulus/question. The AC may be itself far from perfect/poorly written, but that may be an LSAT writer trap to deter us from picking the correct one. On the LSAT an AC is correct if out of all the other options, it best does the thing the question is asking for. Can you let me know if this line of thinking is correct for assessing LR and RC answer choices? #help

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    Read the passage TWICE. Yes, you heard that right. Read it twice, but before you say that's ridiculous there's no time for that just hear me out.

    The first time you read the passage you slowdown your reading highlighting or underlining key words that are significant, especially emphasizing transition periods in the passage. After you finish the passage, immediately read the passage as second time. But, you aren't really going to "read" the passage. what you are going to do is skim through line by line in a rapid pace, skipping detailed wording and summing up in your head what is is that you are rapidly skimming down. This should take you no longer then 30 seconds. What I found by doing this is that it significantly improves my understanding on the passage structure, almost on a subconcious level. The time you "lose" by doing this second reading is gained back when answering the questions. You will find that the correct answers immediately jump out to you more often and you could be averaging 15 seconds a question.

    Let me know your thoughts on this strategy. I know it might be necessarily "new," however I'm interested if anyone else does this?

    UPDATE

    I actually do this in the reverse now. I find that it helps me with structure. I will literally skim the entire passage for like a solid minute, then read the passage, then answer questions. The 4 minutes you use doing this helped me a lot.

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    Hi everyone! You all may be aware of the negation strategy for required assumption questions in logical reasoning—basically the idea that if you negate an answer choice and the negation weakens the overall argument made, then it is probably the correct answer.

    The curriculum explains some specific negations, such as some/none and all/some not. But since these questions are so common and there are so many complex ways to phrase answer choices, I was wondering if anyone had any tips that they use to negate really difficult statements (ie. unless, only if, at least, etc.).

    Another part that trips me up with negation is when there are two potential parts of the sentence I could negate. In these cases, which part do you focus on?

    Thank you so much!

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    Hello! I got the answer right for this LR question, but was having a hard time unpacking the last sentence of the prompt. I know starting with "for unless" is a premise but the wording is a bit convoluted.

    "Some extremists claim that all uses of language are metaphorical. But this cannot be so, for unless some uses of words are literal, there can be no nonliteral uses of any words.

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    Hi, while recently shifting my strategy to study the LSAT from a quantitative method to a qualitative method - by using fewer prep material to maximize the effects of the study - I was thinking that I might need to change how I study the RC section as well from previously only looking at problems that I missed and the passages that I had a struggle with to thoroughly inspecting the whole four passages in an RC section. Is this a valid approach to study the RC section? I would like any thoughts on this methodology.

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    Hi, just got really confused on a particular LR question and hope I can get some help, thank you. The question I am talking about is the LR question from PT88, Section 4, Question 24

    How is answer B correct? I still don’t see it. Because experiencing trauma is the REASON why you develop PTSD, and therefore you can still say that even though the reason you produce more cortisol is because to resist developing PTSD, it is still because that you have experienced past trauma! (works like a conditional logic chain: trauma -> PTSD -> more cortisol), so B doesn’t actually weaken the argument since it is still suggesting that trauma is the ultimate reason. That’s why I eliminated B immediately.

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    I am not understanding how D is the correct answer. I actually chose D before blind review, mainly as a gut instinct to look back over later. Upon blind review, I changed my answer to B.

    I now understand why B is wrong, as all we know is that many municipalities will choose rent controlled ordinances for short term gain, but there is no way of knowing whether or not they will choose to repeal them when the long-term disadvantages set in.

    What I don't understand is how D is not subject to the exact same flaw. I understand that we know that many municipalities will choose rent control ordinances, which in theory would eventually lead to a shortage of rental units, but how can we properly infer that each municipality in that group either does or will actually make it to the point of experiencing that long-term disadvantage? Isn't it possible that they will all repeal the ordinances before shortages become a problem?

    Maybe the reasoning is because while it is possible that they repeal before the shortages arise, we should assume that, because they are entirely motivated by the short-term gains, they would not repeal the ordinances before the shortages arise?

    If there is a better way of reasoning this out please let me know, thanks! I am probably overthinking this one....

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    I’ve been studying for the LSAT for about 7 months now. I’ve seen pretty significant improvements on LG and LR. Right now I’m usually at around -1 to -3 for LG and -5 to -7 for LR. Studying RC has been very difficult for me. I have repeatedly been getting -12 to -15 on RC sections despite putting a lot of effort into the core curriculum and drills. I know RC is one of the harder sections to improve on, but I really just want to improve so that I’m getting around -8 consistently. Does anyone have any strategies for low scorers on RC to improve by a few points? Is it worth it to try skipping the last passage all together and just focus on the first 3?

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    So last night when I was in bed I randomly thought of a statement and tried to decipher whether or not it could be translated into logic in a traditional LR question.

    The statement is: Excessive yelling and/or screeching tends to deteriorate vocal cords.

    Could one translate this as (EY/ES-> DVC)?

    I'm wondering if the word "tends" works as a sufficiency indicator or if it's more like a way to introduce an implied (probably flawed) correlation, though not definitely sufficient to bring about the condition discussed.

    I think the statement itself would likely serve as a conclusion in any or most questions and it seems like it'd fit better as a flawed reasoning or parallel flaw statement. I have trouble thinking of premises that would lead to an arguer in an LR question coming to a conclusion that uses the word "tends" rather than some stronger indicator unless "tends" really is a sufficiency indicator.

    Would love to hear thoughts from others!

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    Why is the answer C and not A?

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    Can someone please explain this to me: “‘or’ does not, in and of itself, exclude the possibility of ‘both.’ Thus, if a rule states, ‘F or G will be assigned to Y,’ it is entirely possible that both F and G can be assigned to Y.”

    How???

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    When it comes to strengthening causal reasoning, I understand that offering other instances where a cause leads to an effect (cause -> effect) will act to strengthen an argument. In addition, I have read that offering instances where there is no cause there is no effect (no cause -> no effect) acts to strengthen arguments as well. One particular question that shows this logic is PT 66 Section 4 Question 12.

    Is it true that (no cause -> no effect) acts to strengthen? I've tried to look into this and have come up with various answers.

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