hey all,

so I've heard from @"Cant Get Right" and others the importance of doing confidence drills for LR.

I was wondering if you guys did confidence drills for RC?

My guess is that confidence drills helps people with pacing, speed, and confidence. I think those skills are also very important in RC, as well as in LR. So i was wondering if ppl had experience doing confidence drills for RC, or if they have any advice or suggestions?

thanks.

Hey guys, please help

I have been looking for a LR question that I did (I have impression because I spent 3 mins on it during blind review and it is pretty tough) but I couldn't find it even after I have gone through the entire question bank. I remember starring the explanation, but when I looked again it is just not there. I am getting super super confused right now.

Here are my clues: It is either PMR or parallel flaw, and I think less than 50% people got it right. I don't remember what the stimulus is, but the the correct answer choice is C and it has to do with something like city figure and crime rate.

JY also excliplitly stated that we should skip this question and not waste time on it during real test because it is extremely time-consuming.

Anyone has an idea?

Thanks!

The title pretty much says it all! Wondering if I should commence "chilling" tonight, or if I can just take the day tomorrow to relax. I feel like since I do have a fresh PT left, I should make use of it. I've already taken the LSAT twice (Sept 2016 & 2017), and I finally feel confident in my average PT scores for test day Monday. This will be my last time taking it. Any guidance in general on what I should be doing tonight / tomorrow is appreciated! Thanks all. And good luck to everyone taking it in 2 days!

It takes me about 5.5--6.5 minutes to do a set of four PAI questions (without bubbling in the answers). So while I'm not doing terribly on time, I'd definitely like to cut 10-15 seconds on my PIA questions. Are charts a bad way to approach these questions under timed conditions? Any suggestions?

As for strengthening.. just... help.

RC is about the last section I really need to make some improvement on. I'm happy with my accuracy on all of the passages that I do (they are between -0 and -2) but I also only make it through 3 passages within the time restraints. Does anyone have any experience with doing RC faster? Any help would be appreciated.

The July LSAT is upon us.... and despite my satisfactory gains in LG and LR (thanks 7sage), my reading comprehension is still dismal.

So I'm asking my fellow 7sagers.. throw it all out on the table! What last ditch attempts could I try to pick up a few extra points in RC? I don't think there's much that could hurt me in terms of RC at this point so hit me with your best shot lol.

I know there are many long term study strategies to build a more sustainable understanding of RC and I'm committed to retaking and mastering RC the RIGHT way. But as for now, if you have any test taking tips that have helped you to gain a few extra points on RC I would love the hear them!

Good luck to all my fellow July test takers. May the wind be at your back and the odds in your favor!

Does anyone want to review the RC section from PT 84 tomorrow (Saturday, 7/21/18)? I'm looking for someone to review with, so if you're interested, send me a message so we can set up a time to chat about it.

Why not D? if (D) wasn't true and not all scientific investigators received a grant, then wouldn't that mean serendipity can play a role in scientific discovery? Since they would not have to make clear projections and disregard info not directly related to their research.

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So I am looking for some guidance on the hard Logic Games I should practice. This section is by far my strongest section. The past couple of PTs I have scored my worst -3 and best -0. Because of this I have really backed away from working on LG so I can focus on LR and RC. I am concerned though that if I don't practice some then I will end up with a game I am not familiar with in September. Does anyone have a list of some of the hardest games that I can use to practice? I had some notes on advice someone gave on another post that said to practice PT27G2, PT29G2, PT33G3, PT79G4, and PT70G3.

I wouldn't say I have mastered them by any means but I actually genuinely enjoy doing them and have done very well after going through the CC and some fool-proofing. If only I could say the same about LR and RC.

Hi friends! I'm looking for advice/suggestions from those of you with backgrounds in liberal arts, law, humanities, art, and social sciences.

My background is in science/tech, which makes the science passages in RC a relief, but has left me struggling with the passages focused on specific artists, art history, social science etc.

I see people posting about reading The Economist and other tech/science journals to increase their understanding and stamina with those subjects, but haven't seen a consensus on reading material for the humanities. I've been reading the New Yorker and more prose-heavy books, but am lost otherwise. What are your suggestions? Thanks!

Does anyone have tips on how to attack these sort of questions?

Also, what category of questions does this particular type of question belong to? I'm trying to find it on the curriculum but I'm not sure where to look.

Thanks ahead of time!

So if you print PTs from 7Sage, in the LG section, you have a giant margin at the bottom of at least one, usually both, pages to do all your scratch work. In the prep test books supplied by LSAC, there's hardly any room. Which one reflects how much space you get on the actual test?

I have been studying for the LSAT a month now (10 hours + per day) and I am going to take the test Sep 8th.

I already build the fundamentals for all sections (with practice questions for each of course) but I only took one full PT for diagnostic. I still feel I need more practice on assumption type questions and RC. I was thinking to start hitting PT after I am done with building the skills and the fundamentals (which will be July 22). Do you think that's a good idea? and will i have enough time to practice more questions until Sep 8?

Hi all - So I've been studying my butt off since January and will be taking the test on Monday and also am registered in September.

My greatest fear, which is something I have been worried about since the beginning, is getting absolutely stuck on a logic game and thus ruining my overall score. It does occasionally happen (e.g. last night on PT 79 when I missed a quarter of the questions), and I end up with like a -8 or -9. Yet, I have gotten plenty of great scores on LR sections during PT including a -0, -1, -2, etc.

So I am seeking strategies if something like this occurs. Usually, when it does, it's because I can't figure out how to properly split a game board (or if I even should split), and/or I am just paralyzed in determining a proper approach to the questions. Furthermore the game just feels like it is beyond my ability to solve.

Overall I have probably spent more time working on Logic Games than anything else, so I would hate to crumble on this section! Especially because I am feeling more or less confident with my abilities on the other 2 sections.

Thanks all would love to hear your thoughts!

I've found my LR scores took a hit ever since I began adopting time management strategies like skipping and doing the first 15 questions in 15 minutes. When I go back and look at the ones I missed the correct answer is typically clear but under timed conditions I'm often not even circling these questions! Am I simply moving too fast? I want to learn how to skip effectively but so far it hasn't helped.

Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading BR calls for PT 84 (June 2018 LSAT).

There will be four sessions total. Two for S2.LR and two for S3.LR.

All sessions will start at 7:30p and end at 9:30p ET.

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I'll ask students to state which questions were circled for BR. We'll work through the questions the group nominates. I generally try to ask students questions to elicit the right response. Please wear headphones and try to be in a quiet place.

How should I prepare?

Take PT 84 and have the questions you'd like to BR ready. The first thing I'll ask everyone is which questions they'd like to BR.

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Logical Reasoning Help:

PT63.S1.Q1 (and Q2)

PT63.S1.Q1 - I am confused as to how this is a strengthen question. The prompt (if I’m not mistaken) is an inference type: “which one of the following most logically completes the argument?” I would appreciate any help!

PT63.S1.Q2 - Overall, this question was extremely difficult for me to understand. To weaken the argument, I would need to find an alternate cause for Jocko’s silence. The majority of the answer choices seemed to provide alternate causes (?) Again, any help would be greatly appreciated!

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-1-question-01/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-1-question-02/

I recently got aproval for time accommodations for the September lsat. Problem is I’m taking the July lsat with out the accommodations. Do you think if I get a good mark on the July they will relinquish my accommodations?

Hey everyone!

I've been struggling the last several days with these question types. I'm trying to score 175 on the exam. Right now my logic games section is good (0 or -1). My reading comprehension is my weak spot that I'm trying to compensate for. It ranges from -3 to -6. As a result, I'm trying to get as close to perfect on logical reasoning as possible. I'm at a range of 165-170 with logical reasoning varying from -10 to -6.

Difficult strengthen + required assumption questions are the ones I usually get wrong in logical reasoning, with some occasional flaw questions. I've tried negating the argument, but I don't think it works well for me and my mindset. With strengthen I usually come down to a right and wrong answer yet pick the wrong one. The flaw questions I get wrong I recognize the general source of the flaw yet I pick an answer with similar yet incorrect phrasing of the flaw. Any help/advice?

Thank you!

I’m looking for any study partners for the reading comprehension section. It is definitely my worst section but I’m willing to discuss questions and reading strategies. I have tests 62-71 and I’ve taken 72, 75, 79,80,81. Let me know if you are willing to form a group!

This is for JY, if we have another answer choice ‘an activity that is conducive to healthy nation ought to be protected and encouraged by nation’ then, A, also this answer choice can be a right answer or just we are try to pick the bridge between main premise to conclusion. Thanks, lee

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I've noticed that there are some LR question stems I can't identify. Can anyone help me out?

-Which one of the following principles is best illustrated by the study described above?

-Each of the following assignments of computer programmers is consistent both with the principle expressed by Vanessa and with the principle expressed by Jo EXCEPT:

-Which one of the following principles, if valid, most helps to justify the consumer advocate's argumentation?

Hi all, I'm not through the CC yet (obviously). When learning logical indicators, I'm trying to reason my way through them, because I know I will forget rote memorization. I understand why all the translation rules apply so far, except for "until."

If you tell me to "add pennies to the jar until Bob tells you to stop," my brain translates that as "when/if Bob tells you to stop, stop adding pennies to the jar." I cannot see how this is logically wrong. Bob telling me to stop is sufficient for me to stop. And yet according to the translation rules, the correct translation is the converse--"if Bob doesn't tell you to stop, add pennies to the jar." Which of course also sounds true. Any help here?

And if there's a better place to post this, let me know. Wasn't sure about using this category.

Can someone please provide me advice as to how to tackle these questions. I am getting really discouraged because I cannot map out the logic for the question stems or if I do map out my logic paraphrase doesn't match the answer. When I was doing the quizzes in the lessons it was clicking for me but when I got to the actual lsat problems I am starting to struggle and I am really struggling with mapping out the logic.

Hello, all

I have my test scheduled for November 2018 and plan to apply December 2018

The schools I want to apply to have acceptance score averages of about 156.

At the moment I have only taken like 4 PT's and my scores ranged from 141-144. My BR has ranged from 149-151.

I obviously have not taken enough practice tests and I wonder if anyone can tell me straight up if I will have enough time to at least bump up my score to 150 by November. Also since i have taken only 4 PT's, is that like an accurate measure as to what I can aspire to score in the coming months?

Also how many PT's should I be doing a week?

Gracias!