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Last comment saturday, jun 23 2018

Logical Reasoning Overall Help

Hello everyone,

I have been crushing it lately in Logic Games when I do timed sections/tests, but can't seem to improve at all on LR. I am thinking of going back through most of the LR curriculum, but I wanted to hear from you all on your tips and tricks to consistently get better at LR over time. I am currently averaging -14 per LR. I would truly appreciate any type of help as I am most likely going to consistently drill in my head how to get better at LR before July and most likely when I take the test again in September.

Thanks!

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Whats going on 7sagers,

I wanted to get some opinions on using a wipe board to fool proof games. I know the best way to do it is on paper the way it is presented on the actual test. However printing sufficient amount of copies could get a little expensive. Has anyone used a wipe board to fool proof? Thanks for the input and good luck with the rest of studies!

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Hello everyone- should we memorize the types of valid and invalid argument forms . I reviewed them from the cc but can’t seem to commit every single one to memory. What’s everyone’s take on this ?

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Hello,

I just have a quick question and would appreciate anyone's comments on this. I somehow managed to go from -15 on RC sections consistently for a while to -11 and -9. I went -15 on PT 63,65,79,81,83 and went -11 and -9 on PT 76 and 78. Do you guys think PT 76 and 78 had an unusually easy set of passages??(If that's the consensus, that wouldn't be uplifting...) I mean yes PT 76 had an unusually easy set of logic games, no doubt about it... but since LG isn't as relative as RC, I would like to know whether my RC has improved or that those two RC sections were a breeze to most...

p.s_ I did notice that one passage in PT 78(that clay *hit) was very similar to the beads nonsense passage from PT 76 under timed condition.

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Last comment friday, jun 22 2018

any ideas may help

I am open to any study, or performance ideas for my successful work with logic games. I study each day, do the games daily, and watch the videos. I have seen some improvement. However, not with my quickness to compete the games. I also seem to often created three or four boards, as opposed to possibly using two. I have cracked a 100 once on one of the games, sometimes I get 4/6. I have watched the videos repeatedly. Other than repetition, does anyone have any tips or suggestions?

I have a background in the humanities and social sciences, and my study techniques usually involve memorization of everything for any exam.

Perhaps, this is a form of test anxiety, and I am self defeating. However, any study tip would be greatly appreciated. No idea is too simple, and all advice I will take seriously. Thank you for taking the time to read my post.

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I am currently drilling Main Point questions and I have come across question #3 from PT9 Section 2 and I am slightly confused. I chose "this concept of balance, however, does not justify concealing or glossing over basic injustices in an effort to be even-handed" as the main conclusion. I chose answer choice C but I am nonetheless confused as to why B is the correct answer choice.

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Last comment thursday, jun 21 2018

Unless

I'm still unclear on why I am to negate sufficient when I come across unless, or should it just introduce the necessary condition?

"K cannot be selected for honor roll, unless H is selected to honor roll."

would I take H selected and move it to the sufficient and negate it?

/H ---->/K or contrapositive K----->H

or would it simply be

K----->H right from the start and have the "unless" introduce the necessary?

Please Help!!!

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Last comment thursday, jun 21 2018

Sufficient & necessary conditions

I am somewhat struggling with diagramming sufficient and necessary conditions with logical reasoning. Some i can answer and some has me a little confused. Are there any tips that could help me understand this? I’m not on 7 sage core curriculum i am studying with LSATMAX, but i also have powerscore bibles and a book called the LSAT trainer that just came in. If anyone could please help me i would greatly appreciate it.

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hi there! I'm curious to know where everyone scheduled to take the 9/8/18 test is in terms of studying - are you PTing? still working on the CC? drilling LGs?

I was originally scheduled to take the 7/23/18 test but realized that I wasn't likely going to be ready for it so just pushed it back to September. I'm nearly finished with the CC (finishing up LG section) and will start PTing within the next two weeks. I've been trying to follow the study scheduled generated by 7sage but I'm currently about two weeks behind, which makes me nervous. but I'm pressing forward, studying at least 4-6 hours each day.

oh, also - how do you manage LG drilling, LR and RC practice, and PTing at the same time? I was planning on PTing in the morning, BR in the afternoon/evening (3 days each week, if possible), then 3 days each week alternating between LR and RC practice with LG drilling on all 3 days. I realize this sounds like an ambitious schedule and admittedly won't be able to stick with it all of the time due to personal obligations - if you would suggest any modifications, what would they be?

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I am planning on taking the September LSAT. I only began studying a few weeks ago, and have been following the study schedule provided by 7sage. However, I am most concerned with working on the logic games which is the section I struggle the most with. Does anyone know if it is necessary to follow the syllabus in the order in which the study schedule provides it? Or would I be fine skipping right to logic games?

Thanks!

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Last comment thursday, jun 21 2018

Weaken Question Patterns

I’ve been looking through many logical reasoning weaken questions and I’ve trying to look for patterns. The only one I found was correlation—> causation. I was wondering if there are any other common patterns that would be discernible in the stimulus for the questions.

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What the title says. I'm sure each of us had at least one passage that really piqued his or her interest, found amusing for one reason or another, turned his or her life upside down, etc.

I'm not a big fan of art passages, but I really liked the passages about perfume (PT 74) and Julia Margaret Cameron's photography (PT 73). The former was quite engaging, as I have never given a thought about perfume as an art form. As for the latter, I found its descriptions about unhappy children and sloppy decors hilarious.

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Last comment wednesday, jun 20 2018

Flaw Questions

How can you get better at Flaw questions? I always isolate the premise(s) and the conclusion, and know that you are suppose to weaken the link between the premise and the conclusion. But a lot of times, I just don't know how/can't prephrase. So I go to the answer choices and then almost always end up picking the tricky wrong answer (i.e. descriptively accurate but is not actually the flaw). I have done this part of the CC and have completed some of the Flaw problem sets.

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Last comment wednesday, jun 20 2018

Necessary Condition Negation

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I was wondering if anyone could provide/explain the general set of rules for this statement: Nothing that one should have desired in the first place fails to be a pleasure.

D: Nothing that one should have desired in the first place

P: Fails to be a pleasure

JY wrote the statements like so (/D -> P), but I was wondering if someone could help explain? I am confused why only one of the statements is negated.

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I foolproofed every game from PT 19-38. Then I shifted my focus to Logical Reasoning and I've found I'm slower than I was at the height of my foolproofing. Will this speed come back if I incorporate a LG section into my prep every day? I suppose I'm worried I might regress while studying for LR and RC.

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https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/advanced-valid-forms-review/

We have B-most->Z which implies two inferences B-most->C and B-most->/O. When you combine B-most->Z with B-most->/P, that gives you the inference /P some Z. But can you also then take the two previous inferences, B-most->C and B-most->/O, in combination with B-most->/P to create to additional inferences, /P some C and /P some /O, respectively? If those last two inferences are not valid inferences, then why are they not? I ask because in the comments on the lesson, someone stated that you can infer /P some Z but NOT /P some C and /P some /O, which makes zero sense to me.

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Hey all,

So I've been drilling RC for a few weeks. I've done all RC sections from PT's 19-47.

During my drills from PT 19-40, I was averaging around -3/4 after blind review and -6 timed.

I took the RC section from PT 47 today, and managed to get a -0 blind review (my first one ever!!!!! the closest I've ever been on my RC blind review score was a -2). My timed score for that section though was like a -7 though, and I was really struggling to finish under time.

My questions are:

  • How to bridge this gap between timed and BR score for RC?
  • Advice on how to improve timing for RC?
  • I find myself often rushing at the last passage. I try to average about 3:30 for reading passages and about 5 minutes for questions.

    I also try skipping strategies by skipping questions once I read through the answer choices twice and still can't choose an answer.

    Any advice or suggestions is appreciated. I know there have been previous threads on this topic in general of bridging the BR/timed gap, but I'm hoping for advice tailored to RC on this topic. Thanks so much in advance - you guys rock!!

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    Last comment tuesday, jun 19 2018

    premises

    The prep books basically say to identify the premise and move on. However, in my research, I have found different types of premises; suspended premises, explicit and implicit premises, dependent and independent premises and so forth. I'm getting confused and frustrated with the terminology in the different types of claims, statements, propositions, premises. Any words of encouragement? Please help...!!!

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    Last comment tuesday, jun 19 2018

    Quick question

    I have heard that a sample of the test is released 90 days before you are suppose to take the exam. Is this true? If so, how do you access it? I am already registered for the September 2018 LSAT.

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    Last comment monday, jun 18 2018

    Lawgic Translation

    I am doing all the steps correctly except for when it come to translating the symbols back to English. How can I ensure that I am translating correctly because my English Lawgic is not matching JY'S.

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    Currently sitting at -4 average on LR and striving to break this barrier and improve to -2 by July. After BR, I usually end up with -1 or -0. Typically, the questions I get wrong are the ones that I skip because of time constraints (usually 3 on the last page) and one or two from earlier in the section that I didn't have time to review. There is not much consistency in the question types that I miss early in the section.

    Any tips for improving my timing? Should I drill the first 15 problems of older PTs with a 10 minute time limit? Confidence drills? Video taping full LR sections to see where I waste the most time? What methods have worked best for you guys when it comes to reaching full LR potential?

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    Do any of you guys recall what the beginning question(s) of the two real LR were or the beginning question of the experimental? I had three LR sections and Powerscore usually posts it but not for this administration. I did relatively well on 2 LR sections and did terrible on one of them. TYIA!

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