After receiving a shocking RC score on the September LSAT, I'm working on improving it for December. I've found that "read for structure" is a common suggestion. I've had trouble implementing that, but when I do manage to do so, the passage is super easy. I've found these common structures for LSAT passages:

If I manage to identify the passage as one of those four things, it's almost like having a road map. Often I won't miss any on that passage. Are there any other obvious structures I'm missing or am I maybe just bad at identifying them?

In almost every reading passage I've done, there's always ONE paragraph that gets complex and it requires me to take some extra time to re-read and understand that paragraph. But I hesitate to do this bc I feel this monster breathing down my neck yelling me to GO FASTER. Trust me, I KNOWWWWW it's only going to hurt me if I don't understand the passage, so does anyone have any mental tips on how they allow themselves to take extra time to read something when needed? I'm feeling this especially now as I'm doing the memory method and am trying to meet the 3:30 mark.

Also, any tips on how people have come to craft effective low res main points for paragraphs? I feel like I'm missing the mark sometimes....

Thanks!!

I can't believe I missed the date to register. I honestly thought I had longer. I have no idea why. I am kicking myself. I can't talk to my family, or they are going to judge me for not marking my calendar. I am venting. February test here I come, and it looks like I will put off entrance until 2019. Good grief. I guess that'll give me some more time to save some money, and my kids will be a bit older also. I am so angry at myself.

Is the sentence that starts with "As plausible as this may sound, at least one thing remains mysterious...," the conclusion of this stimulus?

So the main point would not be whatever comes after the sentence, which mainly talks about how there were no increases in temperature following earthquakes. Therefore, we can eliminate (A) and (D)...right?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-30-section-4-question-02/

The conclusion in the stimulus, I believe, starts from "However, as a result of its attempt..."

Here, the taxpayer is saying that due to the fiscal irresponsibility of Metro City, they now have to spend a lot more money on reconstruction of its bridges.

However, I thought answer choice (A) is too strong and suggestive of an answer, therefore chose (D) after process of elimination.

Author clearly doesn't state that they 'should' have budgeted more money for maintenance of its bridges. So how is this a MP question? It seems like the stimulus contains premises and answer choice is the actual conclusion--more like a MSS question.

Can someone confirm that the last sentence is the conclusion, and also explain how answer choice A makes sense?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-25-section-4-question-01/

As a group, we were BR'ing this question and we could not figure out what the difference was between AC "A" and AC "C". The correct answer seems to hinge on the difference between "Average" (AC C) and Sometimes (AC A). The Stimulus states "Usually a few inches..." to parallel the concept of "usually", why is "Average" closer than "Sometimes"?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-4-question-18/

my issue is timing. my PT scores suck (155ish) because I never finish a section, logic games I have never finished more than 2, never even looked at the 3rd. i am working on the fool proof method, and obviously I am faster at the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time I do the same game but I am worried it is not translating and I am not speeding up enough in general. A game that 7sage says should take me 8 mins takes me 12. Is it just about drilling at this point to try and improve my time?

I have a question regarding a logical translation of "derive solely from." This is from the answer choice (D) in PT62.S4.Q15. https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-4-question-15/

This question is an easy PSA question, and the argument is basically like this:

　　　P: A counterfeit doesn't give any less aesthetic pleasure than a real diamond

　　　——–——–

　　　C: A real diamond and a counterfeit are equally valuable

So we need "Pleasurable --> Valuable." And (D) is the only answer choice that says something close:

The value derive solely from the pleasure. (modified version of answer choice (D) in PT62.S4.15)

Is it ok to translate this as "If it is pleasurable, it is valuable"?

　Pleasurable --> Valuable

In the video, J.Y. says that D is saying "How much is it worth? The only thing you gotta check is aesthetic pleasure it provides" so I think it is ok to translate as above, but I can also interpret it as:

The value depends on the pleasure.

And I think it would mean:

　Valuable --> Pleasurable

Can you help me figure out what derive solely from means?

So I desperately need help with improving on logical reasoning. Right now my blind review is close to 19/25. On timed sections, I get around 15. I am writing the December test so I can take all the advice I can get.

I have heard that repeatedly doing untimed questions helps big time as you begin to recognize the patterns in the flaws/answer choices. Right now, I have been doing untimed LR sections in groups of 5 questions so that I don't get use to doing specific question types since I noticed I was getting use to doing one type of question and had troubles switching back and forth when doing an entire section/PT.

What has worked for you guys? I find myself struggling with questions where I have trouble understanding the stimulus or with longer questions, any tips on how to get around this? Should I just keep drilling? Will I eventually see an improvement?

I was wondering if the number of problem sets differ with different packages? Like holy shit I'm about to hit Flaw questions and I see 24 problem sets and it seems like the 'difficult' sets begin somewhere near 17th set. Wtf I'll never finish the CC.

Hello - I am studying the CC and was wondering when do we start timing ourselves when we do the problem sets after each section. I haven't been timing myself and taking my time answering the questions sets and then I BR. Thx.

I'm in the midst of my first really intensive bout of studying on RC, and I'm a little hung up on strategy. Out of the last 5 or 6 sections I've done, there have been two passages that have really tripped me up. On those two sections I finished around the 31 minute mark, so I had time to go back to have another shot at it. It's what to do with that time that I'm not sure of right now. I'm already trying to force myself to slow down when I notice something isn't sinking in on a passage. Most passages I can read around 2:30 and go -0/-1, and I've spent up to 3:30-3:45 on tougher passages up to this point. These have been in the -3/-4 range (one even got worse on BR...). Does anyone have any tips on whether I should spend even more time up front, or is having the distance of the second pass at the end a better strategy? If I'm going back to a passage at the end that I have 3+ circled questions on, should I dive back into the questions or read through part or all of the passage again? It's kind of a limited sample right now, but it's definitely been an ongoing trend on RC for me. Right now these passages are pretty much my biggest LSAT nightmare.

I'm getting almost every flaw question wrong. I'm not sure why, when I do BR and really take time on the questions re-reading stimulus and answer choices, I can usually get the correct answer but still have difficulty. Is there a specific list that I could possibly use to memorize all the cookie-cutter flaws and answer choices corresponding to those particular flaws? Should I make flash cards? Any advice on this will be appreciated!

I am wondering if my approach to NA questions is wrong? Despite some concerns about my approach I am still usually getting the correct answer; however, this is not good for test day!

I read the question stem

Read the stimulus, but look for the conclusion

Find the support

Try and find a gap between the conclusion and support (but I struggle with this step sometimes).

I usually get answer choices down to 2-3 (mostly 2)

At this point I’m sort of confused so I just try and negate the remaining answer choices. But sometimes when I negate both answer choices, I feel as if both would destroy the argument?

Thoughts/advice??? What is your approach to NA questions? Thank you! ?

I'm new here, but have been studying for awhile, and am looking for another person to trade messages with as we go through the CC and then post-CC. I also want to talk about our schedules. Thanks for considering this. I appreciate it.

Hi all, during some of July and most of August, I foolprooed 1-35. And then I started to go back through the games immediately after I was done to make sure I could do a full section under timed conditions (I FPed by doing six new games a day, timing each individually and separately). However, I found that I was going -2 or even -3 per section.

So I stopped. I only looked at games during a PT.

And y'know what? I've gone either -1 or -0 on every single PT I've taken since (six, so far). FPing is time intensive. I was doing 6 new games two times and then doing the 6 games from the previous day a third time AND 6 games from a week earlier. All in one day, starting at 5am and fitting it in between working 7:45am-5pm. This is all to say that FPing takes a shit ton of work. It is exhausting. But your brain is taking it all in, somehow. So if your plateauing---or even backsliding---take a break. Don't look at a game for two weeks. And then get back on the horse and you'll really see how much you've improved. Of course this is all anecdotal but I just realized today how much that break probably improved my morale.

Hey Folks,

I need help with something.

It seems that whenever I get an LR question wrong, it's one of my contenders, but I just don't see the right answerr in the moment. What's especially frustrating is that the correct answer is either immediately before or immediately after the answer that I choose.

Any guidance or tips?

Hi everyone! So, I have finished all the curriculum and I am doing the December Exam. I am now doing timed sections. So far, my biggest challenge is answering all the questions on time. I missed an average of 2 to 3 questions in each timed section I have done. I am trying to figure out strategies to be faster in going through all the questions. These are the ones I have been trying so far:

I am sure many others have trouble in finishing sections on time. I am wondering if you guys have used other strategies to improve your performance!

Thank you!

I am starting to Fool proof LG. However, sometimes I remember the answer choice from watching the video, so I choose it automatically. Anyone have similar experiences, and any way to solve this?

This question tripped me up a bit, not because I didn't understand what I was being asked to do, but because I couldn't really differentiate between some of the answer choices.

Specifically answer choices C, D and E.

(C) Prove that there are factors other than number of police officers that are more important in reducing crime....

(D) Demonstrate that there is no relation between police officers and crime....

(E) Suggest that the number of police officers is not the only influence on the crime rate....

I was able to eliminate answer choice C because it said MORE important, which was not the purpose; however, D and E still trip me up.

I understand that D says number of police and crime rate are not correlated. Which in the stimulus he says;

Which to me suggests they are not correlated.

I also understand why E can be right. I just think the statistics speak more to D than to E. What am I missing here?

I am trying to sink my teeth deep into RC and i am starting to realize i dont have a solid understanding of what every question type requires

Author inference questions (which view would the author most likely agree with)

Is this a MBT? Or more like an MSS?

Is the answer in the passage?

Chose the credited answer, because nothing else came close, but I'm quite bothered with it. Where does the passage say, or even suggest, that the finding about neutrinos might someday be extended to a complete solution of the dark matter problem?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-40-section-4-passage-3-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-40-section-4-passage-3-questions/

Can someone explain to me why the answer is A? I was able to get the right answer but only through process of elimination. I don't actually understand what A is saying...

Thanks a lot! :)

Took me a lot of time to get this

How can we break it down to get to the correct answer choice faster?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-25-section-2-question-22/

Hi there, looking for someone to talk through some question with over skype maybe 1x a week in prep for December test. Scoring pretty well overall, but would love to bounce some ideas/reasoning off of others.