Hey everyone!

I hope everyone is recovering from Saturdays test well... I feel so lost not studying!

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the protocol is for issuing a complaint about a proctor and their assistant?! I wrote in Ontario, and my proctor and his assistant were so bad and so so disruptive... I'm so disappointed because I'm so worried that I couldn't focus on my second section (LR).

Basically what happened was the assistant walked out of the room during the test and somehow got locked out... and when the proctor tried to go let them back in, he couldn't. So there was a bunch of banging. If you imagine yourself trying to pull open or push open a door that is locked, multiple times, then thats exactly what happened during Saturdays test. I couldn't believe it... and I still can't!

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated :)

Trying desperately to figure out which of my LR sections was experimental. Those of you who had only two LR sections: do you remember having a Justify question about how kids aren't going to grow up to be into literature b/c of the prevalence of T.V.?

Is there any real difference for translation of typically vs often? For example:

"Typically, winners of Nobel prize for science are not motivated at all by love of discovery."

"And unlike professional scientists, who are often motivated by economic necessity or a desire for fame, amateur scientists..."

I've been translating both as "some" but I'm sort of questioning if it's a stronger "most" or even "all"?

So, I'm foolproofing LG and I am doing it by difficulty. So, I'm starting with simple ordering and am almost finished with that section. I feel like I'm getting better but that's not showing in timing and accuracy wise on the first attempt. So, when did you all who foolproof started doing better?

Burn your LSAT materials.

You're done!

It feels real good!

Rituals are nice!

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Hey guys! Here's the official December LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the December 2017 LSAT here!

Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the Dec. '17 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.

The only exception is you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about December's LSAT!

Here's where you can see the current Real/Experimental Sections:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/13991/december-2017-lsat-real-experimental-sections-keywords

Have fun discussing!

Hey All, I want to file a complaint against my proctor for my LSAT. Can you let me know if I have a valid case?

During the test, when I was taking the LG section. She called the 5 minute marker, 5 minutes earlier than it was suppose to be. After the end of the 5 min marker, she recalled her earlier statement and said that we had 5 mins again. This event seriously threw me off the test, I was not able to get pass the last LG question, which is usually my strongest section. I want to complain to LSAC, but I don't want my score to be cancelled since I still want to know how I did. I also don't want to just delay the test because I was planning on applying this semester. Please any advice will be appreciated. Thank you!

Any pre post during lsat - funny stories? Share them here!

Is it true that step 3 and 6 are the same? We, twice, have to piece together the information?

Hi Guys,

I just have a question for weakening / flaw answer choices. Although there is some over lap between the two, I know that they are distinct and I understand how to approach them differently. However, sometimes I have difficulty distinguishing the KEY difference between their answer choices. For example, if a answer choice in a weakening questions presents a flaw can that be the right answer choice? In other words, what are they key differences in their respected answer choices.

Thanks,

Nas

Who has better journalism ethics?

Despite my long journey of preperation for yesterday, my neurosis is not stopping the "what if's" in my head. So I am strongly considering registering for feb, and not wasting an entire month that I could be studying while waiting for scores to release. I am applying for Fall of next year and I am wondering if anyone knows how I would go about disclosing or not disclosing my choice to take feb in my applications... Do I tell schools that I will be taking feb? Will that mean that they will not yet consider my application until feb scores release? Or do I simply send out apps with December score and approach said schools with my feb score when it releases? Not sure how this exactly works. Sorry this is so convoluted but I'm sure the 7 sage community knows what I'm trying to get at ...

Hey guys! Just looking for any and all advice you can give me regarding the below:

I just took the December LSAT and I felt okay about it until I found out that what I thought was my experimental LG section was actually the real scored section. For reference, LG is usually my best section (max I've gotten is -3 on LG). On this test, one LG section seemed relatively normal and I finished on time, while the other LG section I was completely confused and ended up randomly bubbling in about 6-8 questions. Naturally, I assumed that was the experimental section but retrospectively, I must have just been REALLY off my game for that section (granted, I have been/currently am pretty sick, but trying not to use that as an excuse).

So my question is - Should I cancel this score? For reference, I took the test once already last year and got a 160. Before this Dec test, I was PT'ing in mid to high 160s, with BR scores in mid to high 170s (I'm pretty sure it's a timing issue, so going into this test I was already considering taking it a third time because I know I can still improve). Now I think I should cancel my score, because best case scenario (somehow the answer for every question on one of the logic games is 'C' and I somehow don't lose too much on LG), my score will still likely not be where I want/what I know I'm capable of. Worst case scenario, I do much worse on this test and get a lower score than last time (which is very likely because I don't feel confident that I did well enough on RC/LR to offset this poor LG section). My thought process is what's the point in having a worse score on my record if even the potential benefit of a best case scenario score is still not where I want it to be?

I'm really leaning towards cancelling because I'm 99% sure I'm going to take it again, but I would greatly appreciate any and all advice/experiences about cancelling (mostly if there are any repercussions in doing so in terms of my future applications).

Thank you in advance, and if you took the December test as well, congratulations on making it and good luck!!

I usually do pretty well with reading speed. Never more than 5minutes (which is rare). Normally between 3:30 and 4. But when I hear JY's target times I don't understand how anyone could get through the questions that fast. Does anyone have any feedback on how to improve speed?

Do I need to improve my accuracy before I improve my speed?

I have noticed that there are no Logic Games Bundle past PT 35. Is that because of licensing reasons with LSAC?

Thanks!

So, give it to an established news source, or keep it for her own website?

Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official December 2017 LSAT discussion (linked at the bottom of this thread) without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Real Sections:

LG:

-Cruise ship trips to Manila/Osaka/Shanghai

-Musical Performances

-Metro Closures

-Apartment Cleaning

RC:

-Chinese Language

-Heroes and Multiverse

-Copywriting Comedians and Chefs

-Social Theorists about Darwinism

LR:

-Indian Spice

-Nuclear Fusion of Atoms/Heat

-T. Rex

-Tilapia Fish

-Alzheimer's Disease

-Herbal Medicines that Become Harmful

-Herniated Disks

-Dolphin Habitat

-Raising Prices by 25 Cents

-7pm and 6pm

-Fish Fingers

-Copper Tools and Canoes

-Sensing Tornadoes

-Movie Review

-Caligula

-Mayor Getting Re-Elected

-Black/White Camoflage

-Greek Character Reading Oracle's Tablet

-Disagreement About How Companies Should Go About Things

Experimental Sections:

LG:

-Rumor

-Fruits

-Voting Committees and Zoning Committees

RC:

-Protest Fiction

-Tax Alternatives

-Ice Cores

LR:

-Mosquitoes and Leaves

-Potato Insects

-Whistleblower

-Birds Feigning Injury

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by PMing me or posting in the main thread.

LR:

-PTSD, stress, and cortisol levels

-Planet 256

-Lake Sassafras

-Lichens

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post Feb LSAT discussion stickied!

Hi everyone,

I'm pretty sure the answer is I can't take the test (I was planning on canceling my score anyway) but does anyone know if there is anything that can be done about being admitted to the exam if you lose your only form of ID the night before the exam?

My LSAT ticket has horizontal lines across the picture, does this matter? also if so how can i get them off?

Hello everyone,

My latest hurdle on LR is trying to parse out the referential phrasing. Has anyone had an issue with this and compiled a list of questions to practice? Let me know! It would be the biggest help on my journey to improving my LR score!

All the best!

Hope for your goal score!

Is anyone considering withdrawing? I've already withdrew once before and it sucks to eat the money but I'm just wondering if anyone else is going to withdraw from this Saturday's test.

I'm still 5+ points away from my goal score so I know it won't happen. I'm already registered for February's test so still contemplating what to do.

I was reviewing Q19 from Section 1 of PT 27 answer choice A, which got me wondering about causal chains.

According to the stimulus, pollen can cause the release of histamines, and histamine cannot cause cold symptoms.

Answer A says: "Pollen and other allergens do not cause colds" and it is an incorrect answer.

Can we not link this up into a causal chain like "pollen --> histamine --> ~cold symptoms" and conclude (through the transitive property) that pollen cannot cause cold symptoms?

I know for conditional reasoning, if you have a chain like "a-->b-->~c" you can conclude "a-->~c", but is this not the case for causal reasoning?

In a similar vein, if you have a causal chain like "a causes b. b causes c", you CAN conclude that "a causes c," right?...

Thank you!

I am taking the December LSAT and from my prep work and thinking I am going to be in the 155-158 range. I am going to retake the exam in February, does anyone think it is possible to increase my score to 165?

My biggest issue is timing! I have always been a slow reader and I am finding reading comp impossible. Any suggestions on how I can improve my score if I am a slow reader?

I still cannot figure out where my test center is. All it says is Rutgers New Brunswick 14411. I clicked on the web address it provided and it just sent me to rutgers.edu. Not helpful at all! Helppppppp