Hello all!

I am coming close to getting where I want to on my test after many trials and tribulations. I want to drill the top 3, or top 4 question types that I am missing on the LR questions over the next two weeks. The question types are flaw, MSS, NA, and PSA. I was wondering what were the best resources out there for this type of drilling. I looked at amazon and there were so many different books to choose from I wasn't sure which to pick! Thanks!

Hey yall (from Texas),

I am registered for the September LSAT, but I am wondering what yall think about pushing

I am doing 0 LG and -1 to -3 on RC. However, for LR I range from 0/-1 to -5/-6 but usually -3 each section. Therefore, I am ranging from 168 to 174ish. The variance I mostly attribute to time on LR. I get done with my round 1 with only about 2 minutes usually. My blind review is almost always 176-178, and I don't see any major trends as far as missing question types. My thesis is that I have the fundamentals--my variance is due to speed.

However, I have been out of school for four years now, so I work all day and then come home and study. I don't feel like I have the time necessary to get more time on LR sections before the September test to get more consistency on each LR section. I am most concerned about the range I am seeing. I know I am fully capable of mid 170s (and I don't see the point of pushing up into my theoretical maximum). BUT I don't want to score in the 160s just because I went too slow on one LR section or had a bad day.

I always hear it is better to apply earlier rather than later for T14 schools because of scholarships. However, would it be better for me to foolproof LR and get a 173ish in December or have a bad day and get a 168ish in December??

Also, tips on improving speed? I am already videoing my LR takes. A friend recommended using an interval timer and doing questions from the question bank at a level 1 difficulty in under 40 seconds, level 2 50 seconds, level 3 65 seconds, level 4/5: 80 seconds but then forcing myself to skip if I take longer than the limit to train myself to take the appropriate amount of time on each question difficulty type. Thoughts?

Alright, 7Sagers. I asked for help on LG and got some great advice and improved vastly. Now we have almost two weeks until the Sept LSAT and my LR needs some serious help. I am currently in phase 2 of the process, where I tend to do much better in BR than in timed test conditions. I am currently intensively reviewing the CC and have used the analytics to identify which areas are my most common issues. I tend to eliminate the 3 most obvious wrong answers almost immediately, but then I choose the wrong answer between the 2 left over maybe half the time. Pseudo/Sufficient Assumption, Parallel Method of Reasoning, and some of those higher level analytical questions I struggle with most consistently. Any tips? Support? Suggested therapists???

I am wondering if anyone would have any advice for choosing the right answer for these questions. This used to be a question type that went well for me but lately it seems like I keep getting them wrong. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how did go about answering these question types correctly again? Any general strategies for this question type would be really helpful. Thank you!

Hey All,

So I have an issue regarding this question and would love some input.

P1: Cholesterol is a known factor in coronary heart disease and stroke.

P2: Cholesterol needs a carrier, known as lipoprotein to transport it through the bloodstream.

P3: Low-density lipoproteins (LDLs) increase the risk of coronary heart disease and stroke.

P4: Aerobics exercise increases ones high-density lipoproteins (HDL).

P5: HDL levels are higher in women than in men.

P6: Both aerobic exercise and being female are positively correlated with lower risk of coronary heart disease and stroke.

C: Therefore, we can tentatively conclude that HDLs help prevent coronary heart disease and stroke.

Humor me for a moment. If I told you that "Food is a known factor in obesity", what can we logically infer from that? That food plays some sort of role in obesity. We cannot say that the lack of food, surplus of food, or type of food is the problem because we don't know more than the fact that food is a relevant component to this condition. We would need to bring in our outside knowledge of obesity to know that it's typically the surplus of food that is the contributing factor. This reasoning is what is going on in my head during this question, and is why A was so attractive to me.

A- I chose A because the argument never said that the presence of cholesterol is a contributing factor in coronary heart disease and stroke. P1 says that it is a factor, but without allowing outside knowledge into our reasoning, based on just the information we are given, we can only really conclude that cholesterol plays some sort of role. Maybe that role is that high cholesterol contributes to coronary heart disease and stroke, or maybe its that low cholesterol does? Or maybe only certain types do? I figured this question was playing on our outside knowledge of cholesterol, because the argument that we are given never says that high cholesterol is what is bad. It just says cholesterol in general is some sort of factor. P1 would need to say something like "Cholesterol is a known contributor in coronary heart disease and stroke." Or even "High cholesterol is a known factor..." would be better.

(Outside info- HDLs are considered good cholesterol. So why would excreting good cholesterol from the body necessarily be a good thing? I'm sure there is a scientifically sound answer to this but, in terms of the LSAT, what's relevant is the major assumption here.)

B- I didn't have a problem eliminating B

C- I see why this is the correct answer...I just couldn't quite come to terms with A.

D- I didn't have a problem eliminating D.

E- I didn't have a problem eliminating E.

Thanks in advance.

Hi everyone,

I have been drilling the games and I am currently working on spatial games. I don't know if this has helped anyone, but this trick certainly has helped me. I started doing subscripts on my game board. For example, if we are trying to place lions or tigers on the game board (like the game in PT16), I spent a little more time in the beginning to do that. I was careful to make sure that my game board wasn't too messy. The questions were super easy and I got the game right and with high confidence. Just wanted to let everyone know in case this trick helps others too! :)

I just started studying for the December exam with 7sage (I did take it once before tho) and will also start working on my PS, DS, resume and other components of the applications. Does anyone who works full-time have advice on how to balance the time I spend studying with app prep these next two months so it doesn't affect my LSAT prep? I won't get my score until Jan. 4th but I'd like to send my apps as early as possible.

ALSO, my GPA is just average (3.5) but I know my LSAT score reach a 165-170. Should I still send my apps without my score (or will they get automatically turned down due to my GPA?)

Thanks so much!

I would think that both of these words would be written as "most" in formal logic. Is this correct? Or would generally just be "some"?

Hey everybody,

So i'm encountering a strange phenomenon in RC. First off, I've officially succeeded in getting a -0 in an RC passage. If anyone remembers my RC scores from before, you know this is a HUGE improvement. I believe I was landing in the -15 before. Now here is the issue, since i've now been able to get -0 several times i've started trying to do multiple passages in a row to improve stamina (untimed). As the passages go on, I just seem to be getting worst and worst and worst. My first passage is a -0 and by the last one i'm right back at a bad RC person. Has anyone else had issues with stamina before? Any tips/tricks/advice for building up my tolerance (lol) for RC and maintaining my performance?

https://twitter.com/DaveKilloran/status/902252434180849664

In light of @"marvin.dike" and his post, I want to make this available to anyone that might miss it. David Killoran from PowerScore tweeted this a while ago. The LSAC sounds like they are going to accommodate you in every way they can. Stay safe, thoughts go out to you all!

Namaste peeps,

This may already be out there so bare with me. As great as the videos and explanations for Games on the CC are, I have a hard time with space and sub-game boards with individual questions (right now I'm practicing with PT 33 Game 3). It's hard for me not to erase and/or I just run out of space. I'm practicing on a separate piece of paper just for the sake of learning. If there is a video (or videos) where certain games are done in pencil, that would amazing. It would help to see how someone writes everything in the space provided, including master game boards, conditional chains AND the specific questions without confusing themselves with there own handwriting (like me).

Bless y'all.

When answering these types of questions, should we pay attention to the content or substance of the answers, or only to the form?

" Most people who shop for groceries no more than 3 times a month buy prepared frozen dinners regularly. In Hallstown, most people shop for groceries no more than 3 times a month. Therefore, in Hallstown most people buy prepared frozen dinners regularly".

Why is this an invalid argument?

LR Question Type drilling+BR vs. Timed Section+BR

Hello 7sagers!

I have worked through the fundamentals of CC (LR) and I now plan to drill LR questions.

I'm weighing between two options (which can be complementary)

A ) Drill LR question types +BR

B ) Do timed LR section +BR

Questions

Any advice will be much appreciated.

Thank you!

#thepain-is-real

So I don't have a car. I wanted to Uber to the test site, but the LSAC has a strict no phones allowed in the testing center policy. I could call a cab, but then I would kinda just be stranded at the testing site after.

What are you all doing?

LG used to be my perfect section. But now that I'm getting to the late 60s of PTs, I'm finding myself missing multiple LG questions.

I'm freaking out right now because I missed -5 on PrepTest 68's LG, and -3 on PrepTest 67's LG. Before, I've consistently been doing -0 or at worst -1. Were these tests just anomalies??? Or are these indicative of future tests to come?

How have you all approached the more modern games differently than those in the early 60s/50s/40s?

Hey Sagers,

This is a question for those of you who have been doing LG for a while. I'm trying to perfect my timing for LG through slight method and strategy changes.

Was hoping to just get some insight on different ways people approach "naked" questions on the LG section. Most notably "must be true", "could be true", etc. that leave a lot of open-ended options. I have a few random strategies I employ for these questions but no systematic approach. I always do all the "if" questions first so I can write out my gameboards and use those to potentially answer naked questions after, and that is helpful. But I also feel there are other strategies I could be employing for the naked questions. I often can get stuck on them because I feel overwhelmed and end up wasting a few precious moments.

I have come to realize that when I feel stuck, best thing is to just start brute forcing through, which is sometimes all you can do, but just wondering if people had other strategies for naked questions? This is just the last leg for me trying to make subtle shifts in strategy so that I can get the LG section in time and hopefully leave myself with a little extra time to do those horrible substitute condition questions :)

I feel confident in my ability to do LG and nearly always score perfect under untimed conditions, but still struggling to get them done in time under timed conditions without rushing at the end.

Thanks for any tips on naked questions if you have them!

Hey All,

Logically, what does "almost all" translate to? It seems that it should be more restrictive than "most", but I'm not completely certain.

Currently looking at PT79.S1.Q18 for anyone who wants context.

Thanks.

So I just caught myself today having completely forgot how to approach MSS questions. I forgot they are asking for a conclusion. It just flew out of my mind. Over the last 5 tests I've missed roughly 7 of these questions because of this. I didn't have any plan of attack and just...did them. I don't know how, when, or why this happened but it is a HUGE wake up call. I'm going back through the basics of each question type in the CC right now. How does something like that just happen? They went from being a type of problem I never miss to leaving my mind completely....

Am I really that lazy?!

I am doing great on the other sections, but RC is killing my score. I am constantly missing 15+/- on RC.

I have tried underlining, making short summaries/ LSAT Trainer method... and nothing seems to be working.

What strategies do you use? I'm just not getting it.

I find myself spending hours researching schools and looking at their median LSATs and class profiles, creating 100 scenarios in my head of how likely i'll be admitted if I improve by x point. and of course I watch every video posted on every school's YouTube channel. I know it's unproductive and I'm just procrastinating studying. :( anyone else does this?

Hi all,

I purchased the casio watch recommended here that has the top dial to turn and from my understand is OK for the new LSAT rule.

Do you think Proctors will know that it is acceptable? What are some thoughts on what you will do if they make a fuss?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JVP0FU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm hoping that some RC session host by Sages would come before Sept LSAT. After attending @danielznelson RC session, I feel more confident in RC.

Hello fellow sagers,

I'm looking for advice from people who have been on the same boat and who have ideally gotten out of it successfully by doing (x).

I am consistently scoring +70-72 which is anywhere from 157-159. I am aiming to break 160 but I know on test day there's a high possibility to miss a few more points vs during PT's at home... Thus, I want to be consistently earning 80 points per practice test.

I have been BR'ing very intensely and the only thing I seem to be consistent in is LG's. For some tests my RC is very low (-12) while the other sections make up for it, in other tests, I get -3 on one LR section and -11 on another LR. I attribute the discrepancies in LR to unfamiliar stimulus vs the cookie cutter ones I get correct and have seen time and time again. My RC usually never exceeds (-7) therefore, I know this is something I should be doing more timed sections in.

I am reaching out for advice because I don't really know how to best utilize the last couple weeks before test day. Maybe investing in a private tutor would help? If any of you have seen one or have a good method of how to go about what I've discussed, I'd really appreciate any feedback!

Thank you,

Stephanie

Hey all! I find that whenever I do RC (and sometimes even during LR) I feel panicky and rushed which causes me to not absorb what I'm reading properly. This only happens to me on timed PTs as during BR or when I'm not under time constraints I can read the passages fine and get the questions right. Also this doesn't happen to me during LG as I feel much calmer during that section haha. Does this happen to anyone else? Or does anyone have any tips on how to stop this and calm down when reading?

Thanks everyone :)