Just took this PT and got wrecked... like... 13 points lower than how I did on PT 72. My last 4 or 5 PTs have all fallen within a 5 point spread, but this one pretty much matches my initial starting point with no studying :O :(

Did anybody else find this one particularly hard? I recognized I was struggling with LG as it was happening but I also got really low scores on LR, which are usually my most consistent sections. Any insights? HALP.

So some of you may have seen a discussion I posted about a week ago saying, "I'm never going to get this so what's our worst case scenario lbr." I got some encouragement from our 7sage community and also my husband and friends - took a day off, and got back to it! The update is I just drilled 5 assorted games in 33 minutes and went -3, but -0 in BR. Considering last week I went -13 on two games in 35 minutes, that is a MAJOR improvement. How did I do it? I allowed myself to go slowly (I know, whattttttt), as slowly as I needed to. I watched the videos and did about 4 or 5 games PER day minimum, all different. I wouldn't say I had an epiphany one day, I'd equate it to more of a slow adjustment to a cold swimming pool. But the point is, it can be done. Diligence, patience, and being kind to yourself - these are so important. I used the test question bank as well as some prep test sections and drilled until one day I used a stopwatch and lo and behold I was clocking in less than 7 minutes per game. You can do it! You will do it! Actually, you HAVE to do it! So don't get discouraged, hold your head high, and you'll live to infer another day. (3 (3(/p)

I really need a strategy that works in terms of doing logic games. I did exceptionally well on logic games a year ago, however I basically have plummeted and now need to re-learn everything since I didn't end up writing the LSAT due to personal reasons.

Is there a strategy people have found that works for them?

So far this is what I have been doing in terms of the Fool-proof method:

Do a timed game.

BR.

Watch video explanation.

Do timed game again.

Repeat steps 2-3 if needed.

Do the same game again the next day and once again a week after to see if I still got it.

I found this shortened method in a previous discussion post, but can't seem to find the link.

I was just wondering how many games I should do a day, since I am still doing the CC so I can't focus entirely on logic games right now but still want to keep the strategies fresh since I have already completed the Powerscore LG Bible workbook and it helped a lot!!!

Totally recommend it to anyone who is struggling with LG.

Can someone break this one down for me?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-1-question-16/

Hello fellow 7sagers!

I have been just finished some of the problem sets for Weakening questions and have done 5 problem sets so far. I have gotten them all correct so far except for a total of three questions wrong.

I also did fairly well on the Most Strongly Supported questions, however again, I only completed up to problem set 8.

I was just wondering if the problem sets get harder as you go on? Since I have been getting the first couple problem sets correct so far, I feel like I can go on to the next question type but I don't want to do this if I have only exposed myself to the 'easier' problem sets. I plan on saving the rest of the problem sets to as I go on with the Core curriculum just so I can refresh my memory and keep the strategy for each question type "fresh."

Is this a good strategy so far?

Hello!

Do you guys think that the LSAT for September will be similar to Preptest 81?! Or preptest 80? Or is it too hard to tell?

Hello all!

Unfortunately I am really struggling with RC and I am wondering if anyone who also struggles (or did) has seen improvements in their RC scores by only doing 3 of the passages, so spending more time on those one's and then bubbling in random answer's for the 4th passage? Or if this didn't work for people or if you haven't tried it is there any other tips or things you changed while reading or answering the questions that made your RC scores increase?

Thanks so much everyone!!

Hi all,

I find myself on these forums everyday because everyone is so helpful :). I've recently experienced a 7 point jump from my diagnostic! Which I am so keenly happy about. Mainly, this is because I'm doing well in RC and LG (avg -5 and -2 respectively).

But where I'm really struggling with is LR! When I first started (before learning methods and question types), I would get 5-8 wrong. Now I consistently get 10-11 wrong! It's really disheartening. I've read the Powerscore LRB once through, and I'm thinking about going over it again. Does anyone have some good advice on how to improve LR? Anything helps, considering I'm getting 56% on each section! Alot of people mention drilling too. Any advice on how to drill well?

I should also mention I can never finish a full section in 35 minutes. The highest I go is question 23, and even that is a struggle. The first 10 questions, I can normally complete within 10 minutes. But after that, it slows down alot. By the time I'm at question 15, 20 minutes have passed.

Thoughts?

Hi all--

I took the June LSAT and for the 6 practice tests leading up to it I started scoring between 0-2 wrong on every game section, almost regardless of difficulty. I only got 1 wrong on the games section of the actual test.

I need to retake the test in September. This 0-2 streak endured for the first 6-8 prep tests, but about a week ago my games scores started slipping significantlyI can't seem to shake the issues I seem to have picked up with games and it's pretty significantly affecting my ability to score above a 166. I think I've chosen Some hard tests to practice with (in order to make sure my games skills can endure through hard games) but today I took a preptest with a games section that wasn't particularly difficult on its face, and I still got 4 wrong.

I've tried slowing down, I'm watching all of 7Sage explanations of anything I miss (and before I do, I go back and try to complete the game myself without time constraints or help). Do you have any advice?

The tests I've done recently are:

52 (4 wrong on games)

62 (5 wrong on games)

71 (9 wrong on games)

70 (5 wrong on games)

23 (7 wrong on games)

64 (3 wrong on games)

I have been studying for the LSAT and I was doing great on the logic games however I am still practicing and have not taken timed exams of the entire PT. I would like to know your opinions on repeating PTs not necessarily limited to logic games but rather the other sections as well.

I have become used to minimal to zero diagramming in LR. I can usually keep track of the argument premises and conditional reasoning in my head (I always bracket the conclusions and circles "some" "most" "all" etc). However, since I have been getting the LR questions with long conditional chains either incorrect or I guess correctly, I have been starting to diagram. Now my brain feels like a bunch of tennis shoes in a washing machine whenever I see a conditional chain longer than 3 variables. My question is this: Do you feel continued practice without diagramming is more worthwhile than learning a new technique specific to long conditional chain questions? I know it's a bit of an ambiguous question, but I feel I'm at a crossroad and want to make the best use of my studies/practice.

Hi everyone,

Can someone please explain why AC E is wrong? I understand why D is the correct AC but I am having trouble eliminating E, more importantly I am having trouble understanding what E is saying in the first place. Thank you!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-4-question-20/

(P1) Get your nutrients from natural foods and not supplements.

(P2) Carrots give you beta carotene but it can only be transformed into Vitamin A if you eat them with some fat.

(P3) Fat in one's diet is generally unhealthy.

(C) Eat carrots wth some fat, but not too much fat because that is generally unhealthy.

It seems that the statement that "fat in one's diet is generally unhealthy" is mentioned as the reason to moderate the dietary practice of eating carrots wits some fat. But the AC says it is mentioned as a reason for adopting a dietary practice. Am I missing something?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-50-section-2-question-19/

Hey everyone,

Any tips on reviewing game boards? I'm finding I'm either missing a rule, or overthinking the game board (i.e. thinking of all of the options and/or missing an option.)

Can someone expand and maybe give an example of the AC "offering an alternate explanation of the correlation cited"

Does anyone have a list of the hardest and most unique games that they have encountered?

I have been studying for the LSAT for less than one year and would like to further improve on LR. I have read that many people have learned to identify each question type and apply unique strategies for tackling that particular question type. Currently, I am not employing this method and I am unsure if I will see great results if I learned this technique. If necessary I have no issue putting the time and work in to learning this method, but I am unsure how helpful it will be. If you have used this method, has it had a positive impact for you? Do you believe that learning this method is necessary in order to perform well on LR?

I have recently spent a ton of time perfecting flaw questions and I have improved immensely on them. For most questions, I can adequately predict, articulate, and attract out the flaw into an AC. For some odd reason though, all of this work on flaw questions has drastically made my NA accuracy and also my understanding of them, decease. This is a bit alarming, as I have done a tremendous amount of them already.

At the moment, I just feel lost when I am answering a NA question type. I went back through the CC and refreshed my knowledge on blocking and bridging types. But even after this, I almost never can guess the nessesary assumption, regardless of the difficulty.

I can very much see how NA and flaw are related. Because of this, I was wondering if anyone who does well on NAs treats them like a flaw question when it comes to identifying the gap. But then the difference between the two would happen in the answer choices. I.E.- flaw (describe the flaw) and NA (go a bit more concrete and bridge the flaw into the argument or block the cantropositive of it).

I made this post specifically because, although NA questions aren't necessarily new to me, I feel as if there is a tiny wall that is preventing me from this "ah ha" moment and I just don't see it yet.

Any advice on how to view a NA question type would be great. Thanks!

Hi,

I've found a post that lists PT sections with live commentary videos but I am looking for real time videos where 7sage students (Leia, Natalie, etc) solve logic games.

Does anyone have a list for such videos? Thanks!

@"Dillon A. Wright" Also, I think the live commentary videos for 59.1.Game 4 are not working; the first video shows the message "video file not found" and the 2nd one stops in the middle of the video (@05:41)

I'm planning on taking the test in September. I already did all the core curriculum. I have also gone back and review sections where I need help. But, I am not improving very much. I am scoring147-152 on timed PT. During blind review 160, which is around the score I want. During my reviews things make sense to me, but once I am taking a PT test, I feel everything I know goes out the window. I know I don't know everything, but most of the time I just make stupid mistakes. So, does anybody have any tips as of how I can study in a way I can see improvement. I feel what I have being doing in the past its just not helping, since my score is not improving!!!

Im talking about intensive review. How do you guys tear apart an RC passage?

I heard JY mention that there are 8 types of game boards. Is there a place where that is described in a consolidated manner in the syllabus?

I'm not using the modern tests yet but I just encountered my first Eval question on PT 36. Do these QTs appear more or less often on modern tests? They don't seem to be covered in the cc.

Hey guys,

i'm using the cambridge drills to practice SA questions, I'm wondering if someone has access to them and could help me out? It's question 15 and question 16. They are from prep test 2 S2 Q17, and PT 3 S2 Q12.

Cannot for the life of me understand what I did wrong. Not sure what the rules are with writing out problems that aren't posted in 7sage, but if someone has these drills, could you DM me? (or post the explanation here, if that's allowed)?

Thanks!