There is a rule I am not able to understand and how I would write it out as a rule during my sketch. I believe it is a hybrid game...sequencing and not sure what else.

In a game disallowing ties: B appears before C, or B appears before D, but not both.

I wrote out the rule as B...C OR D...B but this doesn't clearly explain the rule and I will most likely continue to be confused. How can I better understand rules in this nature and what would be a better way to sketch it.

Hello!

I've been studying on and off the last few years for the LSAT, and I am seriously committing the last few weeks before the February LSAT to study (yes, I know it is not recommended). Is there anyone else in the same or similar situation as I am?

Hi,

Just wondering if people on here know any games similar to games 2/3 that were on the December LSAT.

Game #2 was a conditional sequencing game.

Game #3 was a weird in/out game that I found challenging, even though I usually have don't have troubles with them.

Hi everyone!

Can someone please help me with this question. I can't understand why C is wrong at all. I got it down to A and C and ended up picking C.

cant C be correct because if drinking one glass doesn't cause deficiency in vitamin D, that means there would be enough calcium absorbed by an aging persons body for them to lower their blood pressure.

thoughts?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-3-question-24/

if we are to solve a strengthen, or Sa or PSA type of a question, if we see the word Principle in the Question stem. Are we to assume that that question makes use of conditional Logic necessarily? Also does the SA question always make use of conditional Logic?

Hello,

I have a general question about negating statements that is bothering me as I'm working through necessary assumption questions! My question is, do we negate BOTH "not" elements in a statement in order to properly negate it, or just one? For example:

"Lawrence did not get the idea in the passages in questions or did not get their formulations originally from Hartley"

To negate, do we take away both of the "nots" or just one?

Another example:

"Those who do not know a language cannot hear the way speech in that language actually sounds"

To negate, do we say "Those who do know a language cannot hear the way speech in that language actually sounds" or do we say "Those who do know a language can hear the way speech in that language actually sounds"?

Thanks and I hope this makes sense!

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Can someone explain to me how A is right. I understood the argument to be a generalization because it goes from talking about lowering dairy food intake to avoid heart diseases to talking about having good health in general

I understand why A is right, but is my way of thinking about the stimulas wrong?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-3-question-18/

I started to enjoy the RC section when I started to enjoy learning from it. And outside knowledge definitely helps when it comes to RC.

I used to think I know about art, but by reading the art LSAT passages, I learned that I have absolutely no idea about art history! My go-to YouTube channel for science is CrashCourse, but I haven't been able to find a good channel for art history (Khan Academy's lessons seemed too detailed....)

Recently I found Art History - Overview Videos from Phil Hansen (21 videos).

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXVuKomahjzdNOrden8thb8HWbvJZK71w

I've been watching these videos whenever I get bored with studying in the order of Art History Timeline (yes, it's Art History For Dummies website. lol), so I thought I'd share these with you!

Let me know if there are any YouTube videos or websites that help us with art history! :)

..."but not both" sequencing games. I've been practicing these after the Dec LSAT. I thought I had a good handle on them but I took way too long to diagram my possible worlds game 2 (I realized I made a mistake halfway through the question set and had to redo them).

I'm currently doing drills in Powescore's LG workbook.

Tell me if I am translating them into lawgic properly:

No x is y = x ---->/y

X is not y = x ------>/y

Are they the same or are they different?

Help! Very much appreciate.

So I’m kind of in the dark about when/how they’re supposed to send out the field test refunds for the December exam. Anyone have an idea?

hello 7sagers,

Is the logical negation of "imperfect", "not imperfect" or "perfect"?

I'm unsure what the middle ground between "imperfect" and "perfect" may be

thanks!

After doing quite a few drills on N.A. questions, I've noticed that double negative answer choices seem to be answer of choice. Is this just a coincidence? Or am I seeing a trend?

I'm not sure if anyone else took the December LSAT at Long Beach Convention Center.

Everyone was in line checking in around 8 a.m., and they only had 3 people to check people in. They also put 400 of us in one ballroom, so people that checked in earlier were in for a treat. It took them 3 hours to check everyone in. Yes, our test did not even start until 11 a.m.

In the time that this center checked people in, the ones who were early were not able to drink water nor use the restroom. By 11 a.m. is when our first portion should be over! Everyone was annoyed due to the lack of the test center's preparedness. The proctor did not have a mic, so she also had to walk up and down the aisle to repeat the rules over 10x.

It doesn't end there. As the proctor was finishing up the rules, a girl kept raising her hand. She notified the proctor and other staff that she really needed to use the restroom. They would not allow her to go, and they haven't even distributed tests out yet. The poor girl tried to run past the staff, and they blocked her way. She ultimately peed her pants in front of 400 people.

In addition to that incident, there was a Miss California USA Pageant and Herbalife Employee Ceremony happening at the same time that we started our test. Loud music, bands playing, cheering, and people announcing employee of the month echoed throughout the room. It was as if our conditions were not already horrible.

I'm not one to complain, but honestly that day I became so detached from taking the test (as were many others). I was confident in my abilities, but the environment and unpreparedness took its toll on everyone. By the time we finished the first portion, it was 1:30 p.m. They didn't even let us out until 2 p.m. because they couldn't manage to count 400 tests. Also 400 people were dying to use the restroom. By the time we got to break, I was lucky enough to sit by the door, run out, and get to the restroom. When I finished, I saw the huge lines that most likely did not allow everyone to use it in the break time allotted. After we were all done, it was 4 p.m. 7 HOURS. The test center drained us more than the test did.

I know that many of us have complained to LSAC, and have no idea what LSAC will even do for us. February 2018 LSAT is not much of an option for me since most of the schools I am applying to do not accept February LSAT. I guess what I'd like to ask is whether it is worth writing an addendum about? I plan to turn in my applications before Friday, but feel that our circumstances were very unfair.

You would think that $180/person and 400 people would give them enough funds to provide adequate staff and testing conditions.

Take a look at this link:

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/lr-drills-preptest-70-to-79/

I think this a fantastic tool for really going in-depth on improving specific areas of LR, because it splits up questions according to question type.

However, I need some advice. I need to work on arg.part, pseudo-SA, MBT, and MBF questions, so I plan on printing out the sections for those question types. But I'm not sure how to approach actually using these questions. Is it best to set a 35 min window and try to complete one of these question compilations, one at time? If I just go through the questions without a time constraint I know I will get most of them correct just because I have the luxury of time, however some of the compilations only have 22 questions (instead of a usual LR of 25 or 26), so I don't know if setting the timer would actually make a difference.

Does anyone have any advice on how best to use these questions?

If it helps, I'm a low 160 scorer, and my biggest issue (one that I feel wrecked me on the Dec. exam) is my inability to know when to move on from a question. Given enough time, I'm very confident in my fundamentals leading me to the correct answer. Under timed conditions my ego gets into it. For example I'll read a question, not get it right away, read it again, not get it, and then force myself to slowly work through it, which hurts my ability to pick up other points. To bring it full circle, the question types that I listed above are usually always the ones that I can't seem to just move on from right away, so I figure by practicing them now and being more competent with them I will improve my timing on a PT and definitely on the real deal in Feb.

Can "F is hired for a position in a different department from G" translate to F->/G? or Does it have to be F(-)/G?

Linear games click in my mind whereas grouping games put me in the middle of no where. I always feel like I finally understand the basics of grouping games after completing the blind review of the drills, but my hopes are destructed when I face another new grouping game. Any tips other than "PRACTICE MORE!"?

Thank you!

I've been caping out at around 4 times to go over a single game because I feel like I begin to actually memorize all inferences, I know that this is the point but sometimes I feel like I'm not really thinking too hard to come to my answer choices even though they end up being correct most of the time. Is this the goal with fool proofing? I don't know whether I'm finally breaking through that threshold of understanding where things just "click" or if my memory skills are just carrying me through because I've seen certain games before. Any advice from others who may feel/felt this way towards fool proofing ?

Hello. I am on the free trial portion of the 7Sage course. I am on "Introduction to Sequencing Games 1." I have a few questions.

First, here are the rules:

O is after N but before P.

S is after O.

K is before M and N.

Z is before M.

J is before K.

I was wondering if for sequencing games if we should write out ALL possible sequences on the test and when practicing. Should we also write out all the relationships in the sequence game? Here are the sequences that I have so far:

JZKMNOPS

JZKNMOSP

JKZMNOSP

JKZNMOSP

JKZNMOPS

KZJMNOPS

KZJMNOSP

ZJKMNOSP

ZJKMNOPS

How many more sequences are there??

Also, do Z and K have a relationship? If Z and K do not have a relationship, then why do J and P have a relationship?

Why do P and S not have a relationship? I am not fully understanding this based on the explanation in the lesson. (I am not fully understanding the backwards rule.)

Sorry if I am posting this in the wrong place; I just need some help.

What type of Question is this?

I chose (B) as an answer but the correct answer is (C).

I anticipated correctly but chose the wrong answer. Why is (B) Basis wrong? Their basis of intention is both different.

I am entirely uncertain on how I did for Dec test. This is my first time taking the test. I studied intensely for months.

LR (25) - RC - LR (25) - LR (26) - LG

1st LR - took longer than normal to get through. Guessed on about 4 answers. Panicked a bit which did not help.

RC - weakest section. Guesses on Chinese prompt. Thought Social Darwinism prompt was confusing

2nd LR - blew through that section. No problem

3rd LR - did not think it was too tough. Took a bit longer than 2nd LR.

LG - what the actual eff was that last game? The second game took me 15 minutes. I answered the first game in 5 minutes - moved really quickly, didn't check. I am so uncertain. Normally I max at -2 on games. I have NO idea on this section.

I feel manic about this LSAT. On one hand, everything could have been fine. Yeah, I guessed on about 8 questions, but those are the areas I tested weakly on in PT. On the other hand, everything went horrible. I messed up every section and hope for a 154 in my wildest dreams.

HELP! Does anyone else feel like this?

Hey everyone!

Has anyone had success speeding up their time on inference questions (MSS/MBT) questions? While I don't miss too many of them, I notice that they tend to be time sinks for me, especially the harder ones (I do have a strong grasp of conditional logic).

I'm specifically drilling these types now, which I'm sure will help, but was curious if anyone else had insights on getting through these in a more efficient manner.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-4-question-11/

(B) None of the films released in country Z in 1992 were based on books other than novels.

My hunch tells me the answer is B, and I am pretty sure it is the answer, but I need some clarity. Because it didn't really match my prephrase that "if 1992 films, then no more than 25% based on books from 1991. I see how B could be a missing premise, but I don't see it as a sufficient assumption, as it able to make the argument valid.

This is a paragraph I got from the tips on the logic games section under the syllabus section of "Resources for Taking LSAT"

"If you encounter a question that you cannot solve quickly, skip. Come back on round 2 if you have time. Clearly, something faulty is happening in your reasoning and it's blinding you to the right answer. You want give yourself some time and space away from that reasoning. Let it "go to bed" so to speak. Come back on round 2 with a fresh perspective."

The part I'm confused about is the last bit that I bolded. Lets say you're on game 1 of a LG section and you get to question #3 and you can't get it. In this scenario you would skip the question but does the "skip" referred to above mean that, you skip #3 and go do #4 and #5 and then go on to the next game, (coming back after going through all the other games, similar to a LR type of skip) OR does the "skip and come back on round 2" mean that you skip #3 go do #4 and #5 then come back to #3 before moving to Game 2?

If someone could clear this up for me that would be great. I wrote the Dec. LSAT and I'm confident I tanked the games because of panic, not because of a lack of understanding. So I'm reviewing for Feb and I just want make sure that my overall testing technique is much more improved (as in getting the lowest hanging coconut on all the sections). I feel that if my technique for taking the test is better, the knowledge I have of in/out games, sequencing games, all the different LR type questions, etc. will be implemented better on test day, and make me feel as confident as I did doing PT's in a library lol.

Thank you in advance