I have been doing confidence drills lately and I've been doing worse than I normally do. I usually miss between 5-6 per section, but on the last two I did I missed 9. Not quite sure what to make of it. I have been trying to get my timing to be 20 in 20 and 20-25 in 8, so I have 7 minutes to review whatever I skipped. I feel like this is considerably more difficult for me to do than my usual timing strategy, which quite honestly involves barely making it in time. On my last section I was able to get 17 in 20 and then I did 18-25 in 10, so I had 5 minutes to spare. Unfortunately, I felt like 5 minutes is not quite enough time to have leftover. I'm in a position where I'm not sure what to do to improve. I feel like I can sense the correct answer once I have a clear understanding of the stimulus, but I can't make the information click any faster. Any feedback would be super helpful

Most of us are now focusing on timing and endurance at this point, while some of us (like me) are still working on fool proofing logic games. Regardless, we all want to gather those extra points on test day. At this point, many of us have a good understanding of fundamentals but it really comes down to how many questions we can get correct on test day.

What are some strategies that worked for you in regards to timing different sections? LR/RC/LG?

For RC, would it make sense to really focus on three passages and guess on the last one? Especially for those aiming around between 160-165.

For LR, I know some people do the first 15 questions and then the last 5 on the section. Or aim to finish 25 questions in 25 minutes?

For LG, I say fool-proof the most recent games. They will be more representative of the newer games, which include double layering/substitution questions.

What has been working for you guys?

I made this thread so people can find what works for them through trial and error in these next couple of days leading up to test day!

Good luck everyone!!

Firstly, I was wondering how many LG's y'all fool-proof until you were -0 consistently on the games?? And how many were you doing a day? How long did it take? I've done about 180 LG and not all of them more then once and I am at -7.6 average. Just trying to gage how much more I have left to do, even though I know everyone's different when it comes to the LSAT.

Secondly, I just want to know if I'm fool-proofing the proper way. Basically my system is to do a game write down all the data and then watch the video if I feel like I don't understand why I got the question wrong. Then I do the next game in the book ( I am using the LG 1-20 book from powerscore) and then I cycle through the games I haven't gotten down to the 7sage recommended time and a perfect score after I finish the book. I heard someone say that you should try to get all the games down to 5 minutes when fool-proofing. I feel like this impossible unless you remember the answer. Should I spend less time in between re-doing games? Like should I do the game a few hours after or the next day? It usually takes me 4 or 5 days to get through all the LG in the book which basically means I am slowly fool-proofing them all at once. Should I master a set of 10 or so, fool-proof them and then move onto the next chunk? Or is the way I'm doing it OK? As always trying to be the most efficient with my limited study time.

On a recent PT I had -8 within the first 10 questions on the first LR section.

Otherwise, I scored 15 on the LR section. I could have gotten 23.

I am not sure if this is due to my anxiety or what...

Aren't the first 10 questions in a LR section generally on the easier side in comparison to mid/end of the section.

I really need at least a 161 on the December test.

HELP!

Hey everyone! Up until this past week I have been consistently practicing between 18-20 correct on RC... this past week I did two recent tests PT74 and PT75 and really struggled.. In both cases I had about 6 or 7 questions that I had time to attempt and was unable to decide between two answers... Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can improve on this? Main point questions seem to be one of the questions I consistently find myself narrowing down to two answers, unable to distinguish the correct from the incorrect. If I am getting down to two answers and can't decide, is it because I am going too quickly and don't understand the passage?

Any suggestions would be great!

Hey I was wondering if I could get some help making the logic game videos play. When I try to open them it says it can't play them.

With limited time, I am wondering how to get the most out of the LG games. I know many others on here who are working towards improving games. With the time that we have left, what do you guys recommend while obviously balancing other sections as well? Hence, I cannot dedicate all my time from now to the December exam but I would like to improve my games. I have seen a slow improvement by foolproofing the CC problem set games but as of right now, should I start with PT 45-60? Or?

I'm taking the December exam. My last PT was a 172 with -2 on every section (PT 78). This is pretty representative of what I do on individual practice sections and on PTs lately, with the exception of games, which is generally -0/-1. What should I focus on in these last few weeks? What do I do to refine? Obviously shooting for a 180 ;)

With about two weeks left until the test, I am wondering how many PTs I should take and what to focus on.

I've been studying for a year and have taken 27 PTs total with an average of 170.5 on on PT65 to 75. My goal has been 175 on PTs so that I can be pretty sure I get 170+ on the test, but I am cognizant that that might not happen. LR and RC fluctuate from -1 to -5 and LG is mostly perfect.

I have PT 76 through 82 left. How many do you all think I should do?

I am curious about the experiences of people who did a lot of PTs before the test and those that did few.

I am worried about burn out but my energy levels have been good and I am mostly enjoying studying at this point.

I am also BRing thoroughly with clean copies.

I feel like I have a solid grasp on CC -- I lose points on details, inattention, and bad timing. I feel that most of my issues are strategic, which is why I feel I should be still taking tests in the first place.

Anyone in a similar boat?

With just over two weeks until December 2, I've found that my scores have been decreasing. I'm not sure if it's anxiety, burnout, or just being crazy busy at work, but something isn't happening for me here.

I intend to take the test to see how I do, but am now becoming more open to the possibility of waiting until next cycle, retaking, and applying earlier with a higher score. It's just that I really don't want to be in my current job for much longer, and the thought of waiting another YEAR makes me so disappointed and sad. :(

Any recommendations for the final stretch?

This question absolutly sucked, anyone wanna take a crack at it?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-4-question-23/

I swear no matter how fast I go I cannot finish an entire RC section. I have no problem finishing LR and LG. But for some reason I can’t get through this section in 35 minutes. I usually have 5 minutes remaining with an entire passage left.

What have you guys done to speed up RC without making a bunch of silly mistakes.

Was wondering if there is a difference between a question asking for the overall conclusion of an argument vs main conclusion vs summarizes the main point ?

Iv noted that some AC summarize the MP, and some will literally restate the sentence that has the MC,

Thoughts?

'even without' does not seem to follow our group 3 indicator rules....

Ella can pass even without giving her presentation

Using Group 3 rules I came up with /pass --> give ppt

but that doesn't make any sense....what the sentence is really trying to say is not ( pass ---> ppt ) which amounts to pass and /ppt

very diff to mechanically following group 3 rules....

thinking harder about this and it doesn't matter whether it is without or even without group 3 logic doesn't hold nonetheless...

am i missing something here??

With the CC almost done and the LSAT in December, what is the best thing to work on to improve my score?

What info do you guys need from me to best answer my question?

I've been averaging I'd say 160 on PTs, around 165 as of now for BR?

Thanks

I have a meeting with my letter of rec writer tomorrow and I'm wondering what I need to bring re the insurrections on LSAC. Is there a form she needs to fill out?

Hello everyone,

Does anyone have a method for memorizing Valid Args? I know #1-#6, But I’m struggling with #7-#9. Feel free to share. Open to suggestions. Thanks!

Im having a bit of a mental block as how to knockout AC B, i know E is right but can someone help me get rid of B?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-4-question-03/

I am having so much trouble getting more than half of In/Out game questions right. I have a moderate grasp on conditional rules and when they trigger or fail, but I’m so slow at In/Out games because I can’t set the rules up well because I get thrown off by “not both” rules. I’m taking the December 2 LSAT, so I don’t have time to pay for and go through the course on here. Any advice on how to nail this type of game?

Typically I go -2 to -0 on LG, -4-5 on LR, and -2-5 on each LR. Right now my schedule looks like this:

Sunday: 1 LR & LG timed section; BR

Monday: 1 LR& RC timed section; BR

Tuesday: 1 LR & LG timed section; BR

Wednesday: Full PT; BR

Thursday: 1 LR & RC timed section; BR

Friday: 1 LR & LG timed section; BR

Saturday: Full PT; BR

I'm also a full time student with a part time job, so I probably miss one day a week, but I kinda see that as a mental day off tbh. For those of you who have made the 170 jump, do you remember when it clicked? If you had been doing anything specific?

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Hi guys!

So usually I'm pretty good at timing but for some reason today I was off. How can you tell if you're spending too much time on a game? I'm usually good at telling if I'm spending too much time on a specific problem but I'm asking for a game in general. How much time is recommended for a harder game?

Thanks in advanced!

Hi I was just wondering if someone could clear this up for me, because this confusion cost me quite a few points on in-out games, by making me hesitate

Example rules:

(1) K (----) /M

(2) K ----> /M

(1) would be a bi-conditional (always apart never together) and (2) would be a typical not-both rule.

My confusion centers around what would happen if given the premise K is out ( /K )...

The second rule would be considered irrelevant (sufficient failed), and "M" is free to float (correct me on this if I'm wrong); but would the first rule get "triggered" (meaning M would be in) because its an always apart never together bi-conditional?OR would the bi-conditional also be considered irrelevant because the sufficient condition is also getting failed in (1)? I'm hoping somebody could explain the logic behind how/what happens. I mean in the explanation videos JY usually splits the master game board if provided with a rule like (1) where K is in and M is out on one, and vice versa on the other, so you never have to really deal with the situation I've presented, since its already represented.

I guess I'm just curious lol

I’m taking the December LSAT and I’ve been scoring from 167-174 on my PTs. It’s a pretty wide range, so I’m hoping to get results that are more consistently in the 170s. What’s a realistic goal for improving my score in time for the LSAT? What should I be doing? I work full time, but I could take time off if that would make a difference in my score.

I have neglected logic games for a while now thinking I was good to go and focused all my attention on LR (which btw I have seen hardly any improvement)...

Is there any way I can achieve -0 by December test?

Right now I am fool-proofing the CC LG problem sets.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!