Hi everyone!

I was wondering if someone could give me a quick summary of when conditional rules trigger and when they become irrelevant in logic games...it still takes me a while to fully grasp the idea.

I can't find the Logic Games Bundle anymore... Is it still on the site?

As I've been taking practice tests, I've come across several LG rules that use "neither...nor" language as a conditional. For example: if X then neither Y nor Z. Should this be translated as "Y and Z" or "Y or Z". From my understanding, AND means both, and OR means one or the other or both. Can someone help me with this distinction?

Hey guys,

I know it's a bit early to ask but I was wondering if anyone knows when the September test will be available as a PT on 7sage?

Thanks!

All, when setting up your rules, does anyone advise to number those rules. Im not sure where i picked up the habit but I realized i was doing it.

Any thoughts on whether this is a good idea?

I doubt I will have time to take all the prep tests before my December LSAT. Does anyone have certain tests that they found particularly challenging that they recommend be taken for sure?

done the 7sage prep course, and read the powerscore bible for LR, and I drill like it's nobody's business; would like for someone to recommend a book that will help me out with understanding it a little bit better. being that we have 2 LR sections (possibly 3 depending on exp section) I want/need to improve. Flaw seems to be my biggest issue. any recommendations?

I am having many problems with this, please help

Hi, if anyone's interested we can work around a schedule.

Hey guys,

Just in case anyone else is as ignorant as me about the clocks changing...for anyone taking the LSAT in Australia tomorrow morning, note that Daylight Savings time begins early Sunday morning (at 2am, the clocks will go forward one hour to 3am). So make sure your alarm is set properly, and maybe that you go to bed a bit earlier :)

Good luck!

I'm just going through the lesson on Valid Argument Forms now and I was wondering for which questions are the existential quantifiers relevant? I guess I'm just having a hard time visualizing how learning the different valid forms will help to different between Logical Reasoning questions types.

Thank you!

I found this logic game to help alleviate the anxiety of waiting for the results! Honestly the LSAT material actually does make you smarter. Everyone have a go at this, it was fun.

http://mathbits.com/MathBits/MathMovies/HarryPotter.pdf

For anyone who had LR (25), RC (27), LR (26), LR (26), LG (23), do you know which LR sections were real? TLS says the two real sections featured an Irish mace and a parrot. I remember those questions, but I don't remember where they were in my setup.

When notating rules in a game, is it advisable to NOT write down the contrapositive, but simply understand how it would work for a particular rule? Or is it best to write down the contrapositive under each given rule?

I noticed that writing down contrapositives for each rule becomes time consuming... and also I noticed JY writes down the contrapositives for some rules and not for others...

Any clarification is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Oh how I wonder if there is a "fitness" criteria prior to first day of classes...it's not even thanksgiving and I can't stop eat...hey now neither is it winter... What a drag this is right now ughhhhhhh

On what kinds of questions are those invalid existential conclusions relevant?

Like, A-->B some C

And we can't conclude A some C.

Are these in must be false questions? Has anyone come across a question that deals with this kind of bad conclusion?

Okay so i was watching the video where JY tells us how to distinguish between Valid and Invalid argument forms and at the end he gave us a little trick to remember how to distinguish between the two and that was that:

In the valid forms, the existential statements appear first and then the universal statements.

So an example is

A some-> B-> C

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A some ->C

And in the invalid forms the universal statements appear first and then the existential statements.

So an example of this would be:

A --> B some-> C

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A some->C

BUT, the problem is that this doesnt hold true for VALID forms 6-8 as they start with universal statements rather than existential statements. So can someone tell me a trick to remember those three.

Thanks!

So I took the September LSAT at Pace University in NYC last weekend. During the test, there was incredibly loud pipe construction above us banging throughout the test, along with an occasional loud hissing sound that lasted for around 10 seconds coming from a mysterious part of the room. It got so loud that during the middle of the test right after we had finished one of our sections, the proctor told us that the LSAC was aware of these issues, and that we could cancel if we wanted to. None of us did.

Although I actually feel pretty good about this test (I was strangely able to concentrate pretty well for some reason), would there be any benefit to me to report the construction issues to LSAC given that I definitely don't want to cancel? Thanks!

Every time after a timed section i blind review and for at least 3 or 4 they were such stupid mistakes or i didnt read carefully or all the answers. I think its because i feel like im rushed and looking over with a relaxed state of mind changes everything. anyways what do you guys think will help me?

Speculators... come one come all. What do we think, hope, pray that the curve (170) will be?

For historical purposes... and because I find myself with an abundance of time now that I am done with the beast... here are the last few curves.

PT 68 -11

PT 69 -11

PT 70 -11

PT 71 -13

PT 72 -12

I felt very strong on everything but games ( my trouble spot from the start ) but I feel they were perfectly normal. Nothing crazy as in recent past exams, I just suck at games. That said, I thought the other sections were quite normal too, maybe even a little softer, so I'm going to go with -10 as my guess. That said, I would very much relived if it turns out to be a -12 or -13...who wouldn't?

For perspective, the averages for my 5 most recent, 10 most recent, and 35 most recent PTs, were all within 1 point of each other. My individual scores were all over the board... but my averages for those groups were pretty uniform and if my guess on the curve is right, I'll do about 2 points better than my "average" thanks to strength in my non-LG sections.

Anyone else care to share?

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PLEASE READ THIS TO UNDERSTAND WHY:

Important Note about Sept 2014 LSAT

Even though I had written close to 39 prep tests, I did feel much more nervous on the actual LSAT. And I tried to keep as calm as I could by relaxing and doing fun things on the day before but I realized it's hard not to be nervous. For people like me, who have wanted to become a lawyer since they were 10, the LSAT pretty much determines whether you make it or not. You try to forget it but it's really something you can't get rid of completely. That being said, I didn't lose my head, and kept as calm as I could I be. I think my adrenaline rush helped me go faster and I finished the reading comp and first logical reasoning with 5 minutes to spare. And I also finished the logic games and second logical reasoning without feelings of impending doom.

Overall feelings:

The reading comprehension: the first passage was easy, second was by far the most difficult and the other two were okay.

Logical Reasoning: the first was pretty easy, the second was tough, many questions I had to really think about and make an educated guess.

Logic games: not as easy as I expected, time consuming, had to do a lot of brute forcing, and last game I ran out of time so guessed last 2-3 questions.

All in all, it wasn't terrible, no surprises, and I felt it went okay. I wasn't coming out of the exam crying, or wanting to cancel it. BUT I can't tell you for the life of me of what my predicted score could be. I just have no idea. Is this normal ?! And do people who scored in the 160's and 170's

ever feel this way after their exam. ( I was scoring high 160s and even a 170 the day before the exam).

Hi Everyone,

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed elsewhere! I looked but couldn't see anything.

My question is, are you restricting your timing when practicing RC questions, or are you just timing yourself to see when you're finished? I have been restricting my time between reading the passage (and summarizing as I go), then restricting the time again to writing a summary for each paragraph and the overall summary, and restricting my time to answering the questions.

J.Y. said to not restrict your time too much when first practicing... maybe 12 minutes for harder passages. But it's hard to set up a timer if you don't know how hard the passage is before you read it. That's why I'm wondering if people have been just marking down how long it took them, but not actually setting a timer.

Thank you for your input! I like reading how other people are practicing.

I joined 7Sage 10 days ago and am planning on taking the LSAT in Dec. Beginning to feel overwhelmed with the schedule. I am aiming to take ~29 PT before that. Is my goal too ambitious? I am not working and am studying full time. I feel like I'm getting bogged down trying to complete all the relevant problems. Maybe it will be best to push test back to February, in order to build a solid foundation...Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated!