For Main Point questions, are they asking us to kind of mechanically pick out the conclusion of the argument, as indicated by words such as "thus", "therefore" etc or are they asking us to fully read and understand the argument and pick the answer choice that best captures what the stimulus is aiming to prove? Basically is main point = conclusion or does it mean the gist of the stimulus?

I don't think skype is the answer, but I have heard that taking a weekly [or so] full LSAT in a group is key. Maybe I will pretend everyone in the library is doing a preptest, cause even though this is worldwide, it makes some city & states so remote like PCB FL. The college message board, if there is such a thing, might help. Ha.

It really helps me understand the concepts of assumption questions by looking at it formally. Could someone check my logic?

So say we have a premise (B->C) and we have the conclusion (A->C) and say we have the two question stems

Question stem 1: Which one of the following, if assumed, ALLOWS the conclusion to be properly drawn?

Question stem 2: Which one of the following assumptions is REQUIRED for the conclusion to be properly drawn?

For question stem 1, we're looking for a sufficient assumption. Is that just saying something like

___ (and) (B->C) -> (A->C)

so in this case (A->B) would be the obvious sufficient assumption that fills the blank?

For question stem 2, we're looking for the necessary assumption. Is that saying

(B->C) (and) (A->C) -> ___

where the necessary assumption fills in the blank? Something about this doesn't seem quite right.

We're going to dominate this test!

I am taking the February 2014 LSAT and would like to find a study buddy in the NYC area. You can email me at [removed]

Hey guys,

Just wondering what people think about the final 2 week stretch. How much should someone study during this time? I definitely want to get in a couple PTs over thanksgiving break. My latest and highest score was 165, I've slowly been creeping up through the 160s and I'd like to keep going (goal is 170). But I also don't want to break the trend and then get nerves. Suggestions?

Hi!

I missed a precious point (and wasted a lot of time) because I did not translate "could be false EXCEPT" properly (It means MBT). I believe JY has a posting where he details these type of translations. Would a 7Sager be kind enough to either point me to that post or provide a list/summary with the correct translations for these type of questions. I just can't find the post in the syllabus.

Thank you very much!

Please read every single word:

http://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/day-of-test

LSAC is fascist with their rules.

Seeing as how you're all reading every word of the rules straight from the LSAC, what I'm about to yell will be redundant, but what the hell.

LEAVE YOUR CELLPHONE AT HOME.

People get kicked out for bringing their cell phones to the testing center like idiots. I've seen it happen. Many other students have seen it happen. Don't be that guy.

Of course you are. You're about to take an important test. It's not the most important test though. That one you will be taking in February.

Just kidding. This is likely the last LSAT you'll ever take.

I'm only trying to remind you that for something this important, there are second chances. That's not true for a lot of other important things in life, so that's something to feel good about.

For most of you, you already know what score you'll get. Take your past three recent (e.g., 68, 69, 70) properly administered LSAT Prep Tests and average your score. You'll get plus or minus 3 points of that average.

You are as prepared as you can be and there is nothing standing between you and that score. You've already seen everything they'll throw at you and you've amply demonstrated your ability to respond. Saturday will not be new day and the December 2013 LSAT will not be a new LSAT. It will only be "LSAT Prep Test 71" which will be just like PT 70 and PT 69 and PT 68 and so on.

For Saturday, remember this: keep moving.

You've met curve breaker questions before. Every LSAT has them. Every student who has ever taken the LSAT before you has encountered them. You will encounter them again on Saturday. I'm telling you this now, so you'll be prepared. Skip those difficult questions. Don't let a couple questions break your rhythm.

Just keep moving.

You got this.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-56-section-3-question-20/

The argument first states a general claim about people taking Vitamin C is, on average, healthier and then proceeds to show how he arrived at that conclusion by citing a study about heart disease. I picked (B) over the correct answer (D) without hesitation. The question stem asks "which one of the following, if true, would most weaken the argument in the newspaper article?"

I felt (D), the claim that Vitamin C supplements tend to reduce one's resistance to certain common infectious diseases weakens the conclusion but does not weaken the argument---one that derives the benefits of Vitamin C from the fact that studies have shown it lowers the risk of heart disease.

While (B) isn't an ideal answer, I felt it fit more because it weakens the argument rather than the premise or the conclusion by implying that Vitamin C may not be responsible for the reduction in the risk of heart disease. Furthermore, the question stem asks for "most weaken" rather than "which of the following would weaken" which I read as the answer does not necessarily have to fit perfectly but only needs to be slightly better than the best alternative.

Could someone explain why (D) would be superior to (B) given the question stem?

Thanks!

"Vernon, Wendy and Zazi are all faster than Tai.

Wendy cannot be fastest, and there are no ties."

I'm especially interested in how to diagram the second sentence.

Thanks. :)

First of all, I hope you all enjoyed LSAT 70. I took it myself, and found it to be a decent test. I know we can't discuss specifics yet, but I wanted to open up the door for post test dialogue between us 7Sagers.

I will say the adrenaline was pumping. But as JY said, once I hit the questions it was just the usual routine and the nerves seemed to fade out. Fortunately, my testing center was great. The room temperature was freezing, but I prefer that over heat.

My overview of the test is as follows.

I was hoping for games or LR for the experimental, and what did I get, RC.

I do not know which one was experimental as they both seemed to be of the same difficulty. I will say that in the past, it has been my worst section, however, both of the sections seemed relatively easy. Which concerned me. That seems to be the consensus on the web right now. Those typically doing well on RC found it difficult, those having done poorly found it easy. Mind blowing. The questions seemed to be obvious at times with no trickery.

The LR was standard. My first LR section was easy- I thought at that time that it was experimental as they had some strange questions that I wasn't used to. The second LR section was kind of a beast. I made it through the whole thing, but I didn't have time to confirm any that I had doubts on.

The games section was easy, probably one of the easiest I've had in a long time.

Now we can enjoy the suspense of waiting for the results.

Hi all,

I wrote my October LSAT and found that I was so nervous that finishing sections seemed to be much harder than when I did my own practice tests (I always finished with time to spare usually). Needless to say I scored my worst score yet - 149, whereas I was scoring high 150s in my practice tests. I am trying for a new tactic in December- finishing 20 of 25 questions say on the LR and RC so that I achieve higher accuracy as opposed to rushing through to finish but getting 16/17 right on a section. Does anyone do anything similar? Or have any other suggestions as to how I can improve? My goal is a 158-160. Thanks!

Hi all,

Please excuse if my post is not suppose to be here as I am new.

I recently took Powerscore's class and although it was somewhat helpful in introducing the concepts to me - I haven't fully grasped everything. I initially signed up for this coming December LSAT with the intention that the material would be fresh in my head, but now I am having second thoughts. My diagnostic score was a 142 cold. Ideally, I want to do better but if I am not grasping the material now well...

After the December test I was going to continue to study using 7sage materials for the June test. Any thoughts or advice on this? I currently work 40 hours a week as a paralegal, so I can only study when I am home and on weekends. It's quite exhausting, but I know I need to stick with a better schedule.

My weakness is the logic games portion. I realize once the questions get more complex, I lose it. Should I wait until February or June? Thanks.

Hello all!! So, I've got a bit of a predicament. I've taken the OCT LSAT but did not get to spend as much time as I needed to prep and thus didn't receive the score that I would have liked to have. I got an OK score, 153, but I know that with proper prep time, I can score at least in the low 160's. I'd like to start submitting applications soon but I'm wondering if I should hold off on submitting. Is it possible to submit applications with my current score and then when the DEC LSAT scores come out, add that to my already submitted applications, or is it smarter to wait to apply until after I receive these scores? I realize that applying earlier gives me a much better chance of being accepted and waiting could hurt my chances, but on the other hand, a better score gives me a much stronger application. Any help would be great! Thanks guys!

Anyone know where I can find the questions to all the game explanations? It's really difficult to follow along without having done the questions first.

Thanks!

Any advice on jumping into the 170+ range?

LG is definitely my weakness. Currently, I'm scoring at about 75% correct in the section (-6) and if I can get it to -0 to -1 I'd be at around a 170-172. I've been doing tons of the 7sage method in the last month and it has helped a ton, but I feel like I need a stronger final push before December. Any suggestions?

If I wanted to make note cards for the LR Q i continue to miss how do I learn from them or what is the best to write them out? In one of J.Y's videos he said he use to mark Qs missed and go over them. My dilemma is that I don't want to memorize but actually learn so when i see it i know.

So I rescheduled from October to December. I am currently in the 150's. With two months left. I have been re-going over the course, re-going over the bibles and trying to practice as much as possible.

I want a 170. Is this possible for someone like me? I will seriously do anything. I work 40 hours a week and can only schedule in maybe 3-4 hours a day usually and am going to start doing more practice tests. But I feel like I keep working for hours on age and getting no where. Sorry to be a downer. I just want to see if anyone has some advice for me. My weakness is LR. So i made an outline and am memorizing the stuff that J.Y. said to memorize within the course. I have only gotten through till assumptions however. I guess I would like to know if I should be doing more practice exams or what I need to be doing to improve more.

scores coming out today!!!

Hello everyone,

I'm having trouble with the LR sections. I can't seem to get a proper hold of when to diagram or when not to, and it usually ends with me taking the trap answers.

I've walked through the 7sage LR guides, but I am not quite sure how to tackle these problems effectively. Does 7sage or does anyone know a drill or another place where I could look.

Thanks in advance.

Hey people,

Wanted to get some advice on whether or not it's helpful to re-do the PTs that you have already done once...?

It obv cannot accurately measure what you are scoring, but it must be helpful in some way?

Any advice / feedback would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Sujin

I feel like I spend too much time on a section when I'm reviewing and just wanted to know what the high scorers are doing.Please help :(

I need a bit of help on this one, I am currently working on my MBA and studying for the December LSAT (a bit obvious but I thought I would just make it clear). I am enrolled in the Basic class and considering the Ultimate one, however given that I have less than two months would this make sense? I do not work AT ALL, I am just preparing for the LSAT and working on my MBA. I can devote the full 40+ hours per week to the LSAT if necessary. I could take the Premium but I really want to be as prepared as possible. This is my second and (better be) last attempt. I don't want to waste the money if I won't see enough of a return, however that being said even a few points of difference can make or break an application. Thoughts?

While allowing extra space for the Games sections clearly has a ton of benefits, I have encountered one big difficulty. I almost always map out my master game board and any potential splits on the first page where the rules are listed, and then have to constantly flip back and forth between pages in order to remember what is being asked/the answer choices and look at my boards. This takes a ton of time and potentially leads to mistakes. Alternatively I could copy over all of my boards on the other pages, but I can't see this being any quicker.

Has anyone come up with a practical way to deal with this?